surg 4th year student pimping on 3rd year student

[AndyDufrane]

is there anything wrong with this scenario, esp in the OR infront of residents and attending, and how tactifully correct the situation?also rounding on my patients? 😡

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[bigfrank]

Pull the student aside. Be nice. Communicate. This jackass probably doesn't realize how pompous HE is coming across.

 

[Pox in a box]

is there anything wrong with this scenario, esp in the OR infront of residents and attending, and how tactifully correct the situation?also rounding on my patients? 😡

Haha...I would laugh out loud if this happened. Reap what you sow. Pimp him back. The attendings will note your fortitude and reward you by asking you more questions, where you will get the opportunity to flex your muscles. Granted this is all theoretical, of course. I'd hate to be in this situation.

 

[p53]

is there anything wrong with this scenario, esp in the OR infront of residents and attending, and how tactifully correct the situation?also rounding on my patients? 😡

Some people NEVER develop a backbone. I'll put it this way. The reason he is doing these things is because you are easy meat. There is a reason vultures circle above wounded animals. If you showed some CONFIDENCE and COMPETENCE you wouldn't be in this situation.

Now stop feeling sorry for yourself and fight back.

 

[imtiaz]

that really sucks. i usually try to tell the 3rd years which attendings like to pimp and their favorite pimp questions so theyre better prepared in the OR and they dont go in all freaked out.

 

[lattimer13]

is there anything wrong with this scenario, esp in the OR infront of residents and attending, and how tactifully correct the situation?also rounding on my patients? 😡

kind of like the 4th year with 3 of us 3rd years on our OB/GYN rotation except the clerkship director gave him a CD with some practice questions for the shelf on it and told him to burn copies for all of us...yet he never gave it to any of us. just found out he's on my next rotation too...don't ask me why he's still doing 3rd year rotations as a "4th year" student. guess they just got to do whatever it takes to get ahead.

 

[lattimer13]

Some people NEVER develop a backbone. I'll put it this way. The reason he is doing these things is because you are easy meat. There is a reason vultures circle above wounded animals. If you showed some CONFIDENCE and COMPETENCE you wouldn't be in this situation.

Now stop feeling sorry for yourself and fight back.

🙄

 

[JKP]

Check this out...
I'm a fourth year student doing a surg sub i and a third year tries to get me to do a blood draw for him?! I thought he was trying to scut me out and then I realized that he just wasn't really comfortable doing the stick... I wouldn't have blinked twice if he had just asked me to help him out.

It's sort of an awkward position being a sub i. You're expected to teach the third years but despite your best intentions third years may be resentful being pimped by another student. In teaching third years I tend to "self-pimp," in effect answering my own questions. But if a third year starts to be rude and disrespectful I would have no qualms pimping. I wouldn't do in front of an attending, though.

 

[toofache32]

It's sort of an awkward position being a sub i. You're expected to teach the third years but despite your best intentions third years may be resentful being pimped by another student. In teaching third years I tend to "self-pimp," in effect answering my own questions. But if a third year starts to be rude and disrespectful I would have no qualms pimping. I wouldn't do in front of an attending, though.

This is ridiculous. A 4th year barely knows any more than a 3rd year, and I've seen some on-the-ball 3rd years perform better than some slacker 4th years. I say get over yourself.

 

[lexrageorge]

is there anything wrong with this scenario, esp in the OR infront of residents and attending, and how tactifully correct the situation?also rounding on my patients? 😡

Ignore p53 and the others that are defending the M4 student. He is overstepping his bounds, and EVERYONE knows it. Tell him to p*ss off.

 

[Blade28]

In general, you should leave the pimping to the junior/senior residents. Interns can pimp, albeit only occasionally.

 

[lvspro]

Yo
I agree w/the idea that this dude may think your'e easy bait. Walk up to him, look 'em in the eye, call him a b!tch, and then tell him you expect his punk a$$ to show up outside after rounds for a little mano et mano.

Or

Pull him aside, tell him that you understand that he's a 4th yr, and knows more, but pimping is not his place. If he feels the need to teach, then it should be done discreetly, and only to you... not the team. Do so in a respectful, but firm way and he may come to his senses.

 

[Dire Straits]

put him in the camel clutch in the middle of ward rounds. that will usually put an end to any pimping from anybody. and your attending and residents will think twice about throwing any pimp questions your way.

 

[DOCTORSAIB]

put him in the camel clutch in the middle of ward rounds. that will usually put an end to any pimping from anybody. and your attending and residents will think twice about throwing any pimp questions your way.

hahah...that's funny as hell!

 

[AndyDufrane]

this 4th year was a female student, and I am no longer on the service, but our last day, she got told off by the other med student so I didn't get the satisfaction of it, but I hear fro mother student son the service the chief resident is keen on her ways, was commenting on the way she likes to steal OR time form other students, so I think the word is out baout her 😀

 

[rpkall]

What a crock. Isn't this like, medical school treason?

 

[tx oms]

This is ridiculous. A 4th year barely knows any more than a 3rd year, and I've seen some on-the-ball 3rd years perform better than some slacker 4th years. I say get over yourself.

I'll second that.

 

[MediCane2006]

I'm kinda in the opposite situation. I'm an MS-4 sub-I and have a slug of an MS-3 on the team. He shows up late for rounds (meaning I have to get there early to make sure someone pre-rounds on the patients he's responsible for), complains CONSTANTLY about his nonexistent workload, slacks off in clinic, and on top of it all pimps me in front of the chief resident and the fellow. I tried being nice, helpful, friendly, etc. during the first few days of the rotation, but this is getting out of hand. Thank God the guy is stupid enough to be smart-ass and rude to the fellows as well, so I'm pretty confident he'll hang himself given enough rope, figuratively speaking. One more pimp session in front of the chief may be enough to make me go all surgery-bitch on his ass, though. 😡

The funny thing is that he says he wants to be a surgeon, which given this guy's work ethic is flat-out ridiculous. He MIGHT be able to handle the workload of a neurologist or geriatrician....

 

[toofache32]

and on top of it all pimps me in front of the chief resident and the fellow. I tried being nice, helpful, friendly, etc. during the first few days of the rotation, but this is getting out of hand.

Just do what I did. When I was a 3rd-year med student, a 4th-year made a feeble attempt to pimp me. He asked me a question in front of the rest of the team and I said, "If you want to know, why don't you just look it up like the rest of us?"