Surgery away rotations

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Does anyone know how competitive they typically are? I don't want to apply to and decline away rotations from places I'm interested in. I also don't want to apply for 2 and do none.

I would like to do 2 aways, how many would u recommend me applying for?
 
The competitiveness of the rotation is going to depend on the competitiveness of the program (which usually corresponds to the competitiveness of the residency). General Surgery often has enough spots so that acceptance for aways is not that challenging.

But there is no good answer without knowing your status and your destination choice. If you are 50th percentile in your class and a 202 on Step1, you wont go to Hopkins or UW, and will be hard pressed to find a worth-while away. Whereas if you were 80th percentile and a 252 on Step 1, you can pretty much apply to 4 aways and get two (probably ending up turning down a third), even if you wanted to go to Brigham, UCSF, and Stanford.

In general, the more "name brand" the program, the harder it is to get into. The better the residency is perceived (again, typically more name brands), the more competitive it is.

That being said, I can give you an anecdote. 80th percentile, 262 got 3 options for Uro at prestigious places, turned down 2. This is not me, but shows you how potent grades and step scores are for securing a desired away.
 
Also keep in mind that in many places, 4th years from the home institution get preference over students from other schools....can make it seem more competitive as well as the host school's students know which rotations are the best and you may get the 'leftover options' or the 'leftover months'.
 
The majority of away rotations are not "competitive" in that they don't base their choices on grades/scores/etcs, but rather fill on a first-come, first-serve basis with eligible US 4th years.

Now the highly desirable programs will be still be tough to get because they get a ton of applicants and fill up rapidly.
 
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