Surgery Rotation

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  1. honey0102

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    Current M2, planning rotations next year. I've definitely heard a lot about the Surgery rotation, long hours, etc. But just out of curiosity, for those of you who have gone through it-how bad was it actually? I get it was long hours, and a lot of studying-but did you ever get time to do other things here and there? Anything at all? At my school I know the hours are long, but the weekends are for the most part, off from clinical duties.
     
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    It really depends on your rotation site tbh. I had a site where I came at 6am and left at 12pm after a couple of cases. It was actually a really chill rotation for me. If I was interested in surgery I could have stayed for more cases.
     
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    It was one of the most miserable experiences of my entire life.

    And I've been homeless, slept under a bridge, slept in the rain when more violent types took our camping spot under the bridge, eaten food from a dumpster on the regular, that's just the short list for comparison for you.

    I'm a masochist and somewhat of an extremist, I enjoy a bit of drama, so it was also one of the more interesting experiences I've ever had.

    Most people will tell you it's one of the harder experiences they've had.

    It depends on what your rotations are like.

    For me, I woke up at 4 am and made it to the hospital around 4:30-5 am. (This gives you enough time to literally roll out of bed, wash face, brush teeth pat hair, make a cup of tea and instant oatmeal to eat on your commute. For me I walked to the hospital but I found I could easily eat oatmeal while walking. I think rounds started at 6 am, so this gave me the time to pre-round and update the list and do a few last minute didactic type stuff, or look up patients. We were usually done around 4-7 pm depending on how the surgeries went, but there was the after rounding to do. I don't really remember ever making it home before 6-8 pm. Because no matter how the surgical day went, with reading up on patients, getting ready to be pimped/the shelf, and required didactic activities like writing up H&Ps and other stuff, there was always enough to do until 8 pm.

    I say this, because at that point, this meant in the evening, there was really only enough time for me to handwash and hang to dry my compression stockings, hop in the shower, have a simple dinner/wash the dishes, take care of my cats, perhaps have a short conversation with my partner, and go to sleep, and even then you're getting less than 8 hours a night.

    Realistically, I was averaging between 4-6 hours a night. Doing that 6 days a week for a month was brutal. Plus I found surgery very physically taxing. I noted in the other thread there is an ENT resident transferring out just because their neck and back can't take it. Consider that. I talked to a lot of surgeons who had various complaints, some that really affected their career to a huge extent.

    Laundry, taking out trash, grocery shopping, anything like that, had to wait for my one day off a week.

    ETA: I did mine at the VA... which was known for being "chill" all things compared. Those at the main hospital had it worse, apparently. Those at a community hospital found themselves having the cush off at 12-3 pm schedule.

    Main piece of advice for anyone worried about time and starting clinical years, from my mentor... "Buy enough socks and underwear that you don't have to do laundry for a month." Best bit of advice ever.
     
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    Wow...thanks for letting me know...thankfully at my school, they give us 7 of the 8 weekends on surgery off
     
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    At my site, it was 6 AM to 6 PM from Mon to Sat on average. Crayola227 site sounds miserable.

    I just came off Step 1 then, and all the surgeons that I was with including the GS PD were super nice.

    I always got my Sunday off. Honestly, I'm about 3 months away from finishing up third yr. Looking back, the people there including residents from GS, Ortho, and ENT were the best group of people that I have worked with.

    Your experience will vary depending on your site.
     
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    Got my schedule today for surgery..
    6-5 on average (less than what i had for OB) and no weekends. Three 24 hour calls.
     
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    Thanks guys. This really helps gain an idea of what it may be like
     
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    Overnight call on surgery isn't always bad.

    I did EGS/Trauma q3 call and most call nights were fairly slow (thankfully). This gave us a lot of time to study for our surgery shelf and the attendings/residents/fellows would take more time to teach us as well.

    Ask other students at your school how the surgery rotation went and don't be afraid of call.
     
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