Taking O Chem and Physics together

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Would it be doable to take Organic Chemistry and Physics at the same time if I was only working about 10 hours a week from home, and oh, let's say had a 1 year old with daycare help from my mom? 🙂 I wouldn't ever consider taking those two classes working full-time, of course, but since my work schedule is light, I thought this might work. Having a toddler, however, is another variable to consider. Any thoughts, opinions, or similar experiences to share are welcome. Thanks!
 
Yea, its definitely possible. Are you going to school part-time? Summer or Regular Session? Either way, taking the two is feasible. 😉
 
I think a lot of us get stuck with that combination. I'll be taking those two and genetics. I just can't decide if I should take the genetics lab or not. I hate labs.
 
Yea, its definitely possible. Are you going to school part-time? Summer or Regular Session? Either way, taking the two is feasible. 😉


Those would be the only two classes I would take, because they both also include labs, so I guess part-time. It would be during Regular Session, not summer.

Good to know this would be possible. I know I'd still be quite busy, and all, but it's just nice to know I won't be pulling out my hair!
 
I would be taking those 2 (orgo 1 and physics 2 - both with lab) and chem 2 (without lab) in the fall. I work full time and have 2 small children.
Its difficult but possible, depending upon how much you are willing to cut into your sleep time.

I just finished up spring sems when I took chem 1 and physics 1 (both with lab) and embryology (dev bio - no lab).
So, I presume that it would be the same.
 
You can do it. I have 3 kids ranging between 6 and 16 months and work about 30 hours a week. I took Orgo 2, Physic I, Bio 2 (all with labs) and Statistics. It's all about what you want to do.
 
Add me to the Ochem and Physics brigade this fall. :luck:

Those of you doing it with a FT job and/or kids, my hat is off to you. I recently left a FT job to do this (carpal tunnel was a culprit too) and I have no idea how I would have functioned taking those classes after getting home at 5:30.
 
Easy easy. Physics is simple - don't overthink it. And draw a pretty picture - you might get points even if you don't get the answer (unless the exam is multiple choice).
OChem is all about moving electrons.
 
Would it be doable to take Organic Chemistry and Physics at the same time if I was only working about 10 hours a week from home, and oh, let's say had a 1 year old with daycare help from my mom? 🙂 I wouldn't ever consider taking those two classes working full-time, of course, but since my work schedule is light, I thought this might work. Having a toddler, however, is another variable to consider. Any thoughts, opinions, or similar experiences to share are welcome. Thanks!

Very doable. Last semester I took Physics 2, Ochem 2, Calc, and music history in addition to working ~25 hours/week. I am also married and have a child. You can do it:xf:
 
Easy easy. Physics is simple - don't overthink it. And draw a pretty picture - you might get points even if you don't get the answer (unless the exam is multiple choice).
OChem is all about moving electrons.

^^^So true! If I had known this going in my life would have been so much easier. Don't try to figure out how or why it works, just use the formula for that topic and plug and chug. Do whatever the professor does and your answer will magically appear. Don't be afraid of Physics, don't listen to what everyone else says about it. It is only hard if you make it hard.

Ochem: Do the problems assigned until you get the hang of it and you'll be fine. You can't cut corners, you have to do the work.
 
Thanks everyone for the advice and support!

From what I understand from only getting a little preview, I think I would tend to agree about the Physics class being a plug and chug situation. At least that's what worked for me in Trig. It does bother me, though, because I'd like to be able to understand the concepts behind the equations instead of just doing the steps. Do you think doing the steps leads to an understanding of the concept? At least that's what I've heard from one source. . .
 
Easy easy. Physics is simple - don't overthink it. And draw a pretty picture - you might get points even if you don't get the answer (unless the exam is multiple choice).
OChem is all about moving electrons.

ShyRem, I also want to give a little shout out to you. I've really been encouraged by many of your posts. Particularly those that address having a family in med school. You have a gift for being optimistic and honest at the same time. Thank you and best wishes in your residency! 🙂
 
I don't mean to hijack OP's thread, but what are thoughts on taking Physics I and Trig. concurrently?..
 
herbie, if you want to understand the concepts of physics, take calc based rather than algebra based. Frankly I never memorized a single formula because I could work them out from scratch if necessary, but mostly they just made sense.

However, if you take algebra based, think of physics like this: this like an idiot. Seriously. They'll give you this problem... well, draw it out with what you already know happens. Really. Did you know that one study gave a simple physics problem to college graduates of all kinds; the problem had a pitcher on a baseball mound throwing a ball to the catcher. They gave gravity, all the equations, etc. and then asked them to draw a picture of the physics problem. Over 70% of them drew a pitcher on the mound throwing the ball in a straight line down to the ground making a triangle. Less than 30% of college grads drew a picture of a pitcher throwing a ball in an arc like we all know happens. when they were asked about it later, the triangle drawing crowd said they had no idea why they wouldn't draw what they KNOW happens other than it said "physics" on the top.

So if you want to make it easier, think like a *****. Draw a picture of what you already know happens in real life. THEN start working on the numbers and stuff. Physics isn't there to trick you - it's merely there to explain WHY stuff happens that you ALREADY KNOW HAPPENS. Don't let the simple word "physics' confuddle you into not getting an A.

And thanks for the well wishes. Two days into orientation and I am more sure than ever I made the right decision about where I should be.
 
herbie, if you want to understand the concepts of physics, take calc based rather than algebra based. Frankly I never memorized a single formula because I could work them out from scratch if necessary, but mostly they just made sense.

However, if you take algebra based, think of physics like this: this like an idiot. Seriously. They'll give you this problem... well, draw it out with what you already know happens. Really. Did you know that one study gave a simple physics problem to college graduates of all kinds; the problem had a pitcher on a baseball mound throwing a ball to the catcher. They gave gravity, all the equations, etc. and then asked them to draw a picture of the physics problem. Over 70% of them drew a pitcher on the mound throwing the ball in a straight line down to the ground making a triangle. Less than 30% of college grads drew a picture of a pitcher throwing a ball in an arc like we all know happens. when they were asked about it later, the triangle drawing crowd said they had no idea why they wouldn't draw what they KNOW happens other than it said "physics" on the top.

So if you want to make it easier, think like a *****. Draw a picture of what you already know happens in real life. THEN start working on the numbers and stuff. Physics isn't there to trick you - it's merely there to explain WHY stuff happens that you ALREADY KNOW HAPPENS. Don't let the simple word "physics' confuddle you into not getting an A.

And thanks for the well wishes. Two days into orientation and I am more sure than ever I made the right decision about where I should be.


I'll have to take algebra-based. I can't expect to learn calculus and then ever apply it to anything. I can't even solve algebra, lol. For example, I know that D = m/v. However, if one asked what the relationship was so that V would equal what I'd be screwed. I have no idea how to move it around. I'd have to memorize it and obviously I haven't. I do not see mathematical relationships. Maybe I'm ******ed, lol. I don't really care if I ever know. I just want to get through this physical science stuff. Biology and geology are cake for me. The teacher can work a problem, and if I follow along it makes sense. If I try to work one identical to it on my own I'll have trouble. If any change, no matter how slight, is made to it I just stare at the paper. That's why chemistry is hard. I do better than everyone in class on the multiple choice, concept part, but the problem solving part kicks my butt. Interestingly, that seems reverse for everyone else in there. That's also why I had to take college algebra twice about ten years ago, lol.

I would've drawn a straight line too because in drawing that I would have never thought about the ball following an arc.
 
But AR, you've certainly SEEN a ball thrown, right? It doesn't go in a straight line down to the ground... it arcs. (and if you have NOT seen this, you are ordered to go watch baseball games and focus on the pitcher and all throws - NOT ordering beer or hotdogs.) Remember, physics is there to explain what you already know and see happen in real life every day.

And I'm sorry I'm not near to tutor your math skills. Very few people can't learn math - usually they have some kind of mental block because of a poor teacher early in life.
 
But AR, you've certainly SEEN a ball thrown, right? It doesn't go in a straight line down to the ground... it arcs. (and if you have NOT seen this, you are ordered to go watch baseball games and focus on the pitcher and all throws - NOT ordering beer or hotdogs.) Remember, physics is there to explain what you already know and see happen in real life every day.

And I'm sorry I'm not near to tutor your math skills. Very few people can't learn math - usually they have some kind of mental block because of a poor teacher early in life.

Oh, I know it goes in an arc. I just wouldn't have thought to draw it. I used to play baseball. never pitched - usually center field, second, or short I knew you weren't here to tutor. idk where that came from 😕
 
herbie, if you want to understand the concepts of physics, take calc based rather than algebra based. Frankly I never memorized a single formula because I could work them out from scratch if necessary, but mostly they just made sense.


It sounds like you were glad to have taken calc-based. I've heard that algebra-based is on the MCAT. Do most schools have a preference?
 
MCAT physics is physics. No difference in calc or algebra based except for algebra there seems to be more memorizing and plug-n-chug type stuff. Calc is more conceptual, less memorization, more learning and figuring stuff out. (Ok, I'm biased - I was a math and chem double major. I HATE memorizing crap just for the sake of memorizing crap. I'd much rather understand and figure it out. But that's me. Other folks are much better at memorizing. Play to your strengths.)

So really for MCAT doesn't matter which you take. Schools don't care as long as it says "general physics I" and "general physics II" along with the lab courses.
 
Yeah, I wish my school would simply title the course General Physics. Unless I'm mistaken, our courses are titled Algebra-based physics or Calculus-based physics. I don't want to look like I'm lazy if I sign up for the former, because the title will be right there on my transcript for all the adcoms to see. 🙂
 
I'm taking biochem, physics, genetics, calc II this fall...have 2 kids at home. We'll see how it goes 🙂
 
i'm going to take physics I and Cal I this fall... i dont wanna move fast and then repented... 🙂 did anyone used to study physic? could you give me some suggestion! thanks ^^
 
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