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[nanakojo24]

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Got an offer from Target, should i quit CVS and go with Target? And should I feel lucky for getting an offer from Trget, I hear many applicants are turned down.

 

[CUpharmD2013]

Got an offer from Target, should i quit CVS and go with Target? And should I feel lucky for getting an offer from Trget, I hear many applicants are turned down.

Need more info....Are you an intern? A tech? Is this an offer for a pharmacist position? Do you have any financial obligations to CVS? Do you like the CVS where you work? Is the pay similar? Is Target going to be flexible with your schedule?

 

[pharmkj]

Got an offer from Target, should i quit CVS and go with Target? And should I feel lucky for getting an offer from Trget, I hear many applicants are turned down.

My pharmacy partner used to work at Target, and told me that their supervisor is actually the front store manager. Even though he has no pharmacy experience once so ever, you have to report to him (which may make things diffcult because they arent clinically oriented). Which is very different from other retail chains where usually a pharmacy supervisors are actual pharmacists...

You should feel lucky for getting an offer from them cause they are very very selective. But one thing to consider is that if you dont like the store your in your screwed because its not like you can transfer into a different store because there just isnt that many Targets... So that is one thing you should take into consideration. Hence my partner couldnt change intoa different store, so he had to leave Target all together and now works at CVS, where theirs one on every corner.

 

[Old]

My pharmacy partner used to work at Target, and told me that their supervisor is actually the front store manager. Even though he has no pharmacy experience once so ever, you have to report to him (which may make things diffcult because they arent clinically oriented).

Do you mean like some of the Regionals and DM's for CVS?? This is why in some areas they are horrible to work for. They, at least in some areas, look at you like overpaid clerks. Try to explain time required for clinical couseling and other areas of concern for pharms to them. Might as well talk to a tree. Just go faster and put more money in the register.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

A lot of things are going to come down to your particular store. Do you know anything about the technicians you will be working with and who the other pharmacist at the store will be? Might not be a bad idea to talk to these people, get the inside scoop on that particular store as far as the pharmacy's relationship with store management.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

Do you mean like some of the Regionals and DM's for CVS?? This is why in some areas they are horrible to work for. They, at least in some areas, look at you like overpaid clerks. Try to explain time required for clinical couseling and other areas of concern for pharms to them. Might as well talk to a tree. Just go faster and put more money in the register.

I consider CVS an emetogenic pharmacy.

 

[pharmkj]

Do you mean like some of the Regionals and DM's for CVS?? This is why in some areas they are horrible to work for. They, at least in some areas, look at you like overpaid clerks. Try to explain time required for clinical couseling and other areas of concern for pharms to them. Might as well talk to a tree. Just go faster and put more money in the register.

At least your supervisor is a pharmacist for CVS. For Target your supervisor is the front store manager, so if you have issues with techs and works hours etc you talk to front store... (at least thats what they told me when I interviewed them when I was in school). In my home state when I interned during the summer, both my DM and Regional managers at CVS are still registered pharmacists but just dont work in the pharmacy.

But the DM and Regional manager in the district where I interned during school had no clue about the pharmacy world.. so it all really boils down to your specific region.

 

[nanakojo24]

yeah as a pharmacist, will float for sometime so I don't exactly know what store I will end up with. I don't have any strings with CVS...thank God. And lastly getting more pay from Target.

 

[nanakojo24]

I consider CVS an emetogenic pharmacy.

I totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rxnupe]

Got an offer from Target, should i quit CVS and go with Target? And should I feel lucky for getting an offer from Trget, I hear many applicants are turned down.

yes they are very selective but I would advise you to look over everything from both sides- NEVER leave just because of money. Get a feel of both stores- as someone mentioned I think you have more flexibility with CVS since they are larger and more spread out, but just look at the pros and coons of both. Are you currently happy with CVS? If yes then why leave? If No then look seriously at Target. I also heard with Target you have to hit the sales floor each day and sort of "promote" the Pharmacy.

 

[nanakojo24]

over 200 scripts a day with drive-through and 14 hour days and with 1 TECHNICIAN ALL DAY is a disaster and a big mistake ready to happen and not an environment where a patient can have a proper attention. I will rather have time to be HUMAN and even go out on the floors to preach to people about a pharmacy that really cares for the patient because there are enough techs and the pharmacist gets BREAK. CVS is just such a dump.

 

[Rxnupe]

over 200 scripts a day with drive-through and 14 hour days and with 1 TECHNICIAN ALL DAY is a disaster and a big mistake ready to happen and not an environment where a patient can have a proper attention. I will rather have time to be HUMAN and even go out on the floors to preach to people about a pharmacy that really cares for the patient because there are enough techs and the pharmacist gets BREAK. CVS is just such a dump.

I am sorry but I don't find 200 scripts in a 14 hour period very challenging even with 1 tech- that's roughly 15 an hour??? How is hitting the sales floor trying to get customers to fill scripts at Target any different from CVS having you call people to get Refills? So I guess you find it cool that Target makes it's Pharmacist do Salesperson work? Both are sale pitches anyway you look at it, How about you getting a taste of 800 to 1000 scripts a day with a 3 lane drive thru. Trust me 200 a day in a 14 hour shift is not that difficult.

 

[nanakojo24]

I will rather be a salesperson and have enough time with my patients, counsel them and ensure QUALITY care than being in such a dump like cvs, I got tired hearing people talk their script counts and never really heard anything about the care they give to people, why waste your time at Pharmacy school if you cant even have 5 mins to talk to a patient. Oh and with just one tech, we run run around like our heads are cut off, working in a busy pharmacy is far far far better than a slow store if you are a pharmacist. You as a pharmacist do a whole lot more in a slow pharmacy, its like you are a $100,000 tech.

 

[Rxnupe]

I will rather be a salesperson and have enough time with my patients, counsel them and ensure QUALITY care than being in such a dump like cvs, I got tired hearing people talk their script counts and never really heard anything about the care they give to people, why waste your time at Pharmacy school if you cant even have 5 mins to talk to a patient. Oh and with just one tech, we run run around like our heads are cut off, working in a busy pharmacy is far far far better than a slow store if you are a pharmacist. You as a pharmacist do a whole lot more in a slow pharmacy, its like you are a $100,000 tech.

I have worked both and the hardest part of working in a slow pharmacy is finding something to do so you don't fall asleep. I usually do 200 scripts by noon even not earlier. I have had many techs/pharmacist who come from slow stores try to work at my store and it's an epic fail.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

I have worked both and the hardest part of working in a slow pharmacy is finding something to do so you don't fall asleep. I usually do 200 scripts by noon even not earlier. I have had many techs/pharmacist who come from slow stores try to work at my store and it's an epic fail.

The amount of scripts you can churn out per day has nothing to do with being a good pharmacist, no matter what your district managers tell you. I feel sorry for any pharmacist who feels the two correlate.🙄 If you think so, do not kid yourself about being a health professional. You are required to be there by law and as soon as corporate can get around that law, you will no longer be there.

 

[Rxtillidie]

I will rather be a salesperson and have enough time with my patients, counsel them and ensure QUALITY care than being in such a dump like cvs, I got tired hearing people talk their script counts and never really heard anything about the care they give to people, why waste your time at Pharmacy school if you cant even have 5 mins to talk to a patient. Oh and with just one tech, we run run around like our heads are cut off, working in a busy pharmacy is far far far better than a slow store if you are a pharmacist. You as a pharmacist do a whole lot more in a slow pharmacy, its like you are a $100,000 tech.

With this, it looks as though you already have your mind made up. Why are you then looking for other people's opinion?

 

[p-rog]

I will rather be a salesperson and have enough time with my patients, counsel them and ensure QUALITY care than being in such a dump like cvs, I got tired hearing people talk their script counts and never really heard anything about the care they give to people, why waste your time at Pharmacy school if you cant even have 5 mins to talk to a patient. Oh and with just one tech, we run run around like our heads are cut off, working in a busy pharmacy is far far far better than a slow store if you are a pharmacist. You as a pharmacist do a whole lot more in a slow pharmacy, its like you are a $100,000 tech.

Dude, do you know anyone that works for Target? They are not any more concerned about promoting quality pharmaceutical care than CVS, WAGS, or any other chain. I know friends who intern there and say that the pharmacists are pushed heavily to promote the pharmacy and to make Target brand medication recommendations for simple problems that don't require pharmacological treatment. The recruiters told me straight to my face during interviews that if you aren't doing >700 scripts/week, they will be on top of you expecting you increase your script volume.

Also, I have freinds who've told me that doing 50 RXs/day at Target felt busier than doing a 700 RXs/day at Walmart or WAGS. Apparently their whole filling process is very inefficient.

 

[SHC1984]

I worked at Target before as a tech. Their computer system sucked compared with Walgreens...their workflow wasn't very organized either.

Lastly, Target FIRED the pharmacy manager that I worked for b/c the store was very slow. 😱 That doesn't sound like job security to me. If you work at a slow store and it doesn't get busy...you could get fired too.

 

[SHC1984]

Also, I have freinds who've told me that doing 50 RXs/day at Target felt busier than doing a 700 RXs/day at Walmart or WAGS. Apparently their whole filling process is very inefficient.

Target's workflow is not very inefficient at all and their computer system REALLY SUCKS.

WAGS have the best computer system, but they are super busy and have drive thru...hey, there are pros and cons to both situations!

 

[Ackj]

Oh and with just one tech, we run run around like our heads are cut off, working in a busy pharmacy is far far far better than a slow store if you are a pharmacist. You as a pharmacist do a whole lot more in a slow pharmacy, its like you are a $100,000 tech.

I'll agree with this. I did my IPPE at a 900/day store with 3-4 rph and 6-8 techs. Everybody had their role and pretty much stuck to it. There were techs that just filled, just did input, just did register, then they would trade rolls every few hours. Same for the pharmacists: one checked, one counseled, one called doctors about problems.

My regular job is much lower volume, probably 150-200 rx/day, with 1 rph and 1 tech. You have to be more versatile because at times you're the pharmacist, sometimes tech, sometimes clerk. If the tech is on the phone for insurance, and you're on the phone with a doc... who's filling the scripts? Who is manning the register? If there's a big rush and I'm tied up at the register, the pharmacist can get caught doing the entire input/fill/check by himself. On the other side, if a patient wants to know everything about their new med and has a million questions for the pharmacist, things can back up that need to be checked. Personally, I like the change of pace rather than doing one task ad nauseum. Besides you end up only filling 200 rx over 12 hours, so there is definitely time to catch up if you get behind.

 

[MountainPharmD]

I have worked both and the hardest part of working in a slow pharmacy is finding something to do so you don't fall asleep. I usually do 200 scripts by noon even not earlier. I have had many techs/pharmacist who come from slow stores try to work at my store and it's an epic fail.

You embody al that is wrong with pharmacy today. You think the pinnacle of the profession is how fast you can churn out scripts. I hate to break it to you but they can train a monkey to do that. You are no more a healthcare professionl than a person who works in a warehouse packing boxes. It makes me sad to read your posts. You are part of the reason the profession is going to chit.

 

[MountainPharmD]

I am sorry but I don't find 200 scripts in a 14 hour period very challenging even with 1 tech- that's roughly 15 an hour??? How is hitting the sales floor trying to get customers to fill scripts at Target any different from CVS having you call people to get Refills? So I guess you find it cool that Target makes it's Pharmacist do Salesperson work? Both are sale pitches anyway you look at it, How about you getting a taste of 800 to 1000 scripts a day with a 3 lane drive thru. Trust me 200 a day in a 14 hour shift is not that difficult.

Yep this is practicing pharmacy the way it should be. 14 hour shifts with 1 tech! Who Hoo!!! Yep easy money there. Plenty of time with 2 people to answer 5 phones lines, 2 drive through lanes, two cash registers, type, count, verify and counsel on all the prescriptions. Oh yes plenty of time to do all that with 2 people....Whatever, you are an idiot. Keep pressing that button on the computer as fast as you can to get you 1000 scripts a day out the door. That is what is important after all. Practicing pharmacy is all about filling prescriptions as fast as you can. Forget all that other stuff they teach you in pharmacy school. Counseling, drug interactions, dosing iregularities to call on they just slow you down. Keep pressing that button as fast as you can to keep the machine running.

 

[nanakojo24]

Thank you MountainPharmD, I need not say any more.

 

[confettiflyer]

Yep this is practicing pharmacy the way it should be. 14 hour shifts with 1 tech! Who Hoo!!! Yep easy money there. Plenty of time with 2 people to answer 5 phones lines, 2 drive through lanes, two cash registers, type, count, verify and counsel on all the prescriptions. Oh yes plenty of time to do all that with 2 people....Whatever, you are an idiot. Keep pressing that button on the computer as fast as you can to get you 1000 scripts a day out the door. That is what is important after all. Practicing pharmacy is all about filling prescriptions as fast as you can. Forget all that other stuff they teach you in pharmacy school. Counseling, drug interactions, dosing iregularities to call on they just slow you down. Keep pressing that button as fast as you can to keep the machine running.

Self-preservation...if he doesn't do it, there's a bajillion diploma mill kids behind him willing to do it for cheaper.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

You embody al that is wrong with pharmacy today. You think the pinnacle of the profession is how fast you can churn out scripts. I hate to break it to you but they can train a monkey to do that. You are no more a healthcare professionl than a person who works in a warehouse packing boxes. It makes me sad to read your posts. You are part of the reason the profession is going to chit.

Exactly, notice how the toolbag does not respond to these comments. Even being the toolbag that he is, he knows he can not defend the cancer that he and his kind are to the profession of pharmacy.

 

[IrishHammer]

Yep this is practicing pharmacy the way it should be. 14 hour shifts with 1 tech! Who Hoo!!! Yep easy money there. Plenty of time with 2 people to answer 5 phones lines, 2 drive through lanes, two cash registers, type, count, verify and counsel on all the prescriptions. Oh yes plenty of time to do all that with 2 people....Whatever, you are an idiot. Keep pressing that button on the computer as fast as you can to get you 1000 scripts a day out the door. That is what is important after all. Practicing pharmacy is all about filling prescriptions as fast as you can. Forget all that other stuff they teach you in pharmacy school. Counseling, drug interactions, dosing iregularities to call on they just slow you down. Keep pressing that button as fast as you can to keep the machine running.

Yep, that's exactly what he said. Word for word.

Why are you in pharmacy? With your uncanny ability to put words in people's mouths and make asinine assumptions, you really ought to be working for Fox News.

 

[J ROD]

I would take Target hands down.....

 

[ohiopharmacist]

I agree with rxnupe, if you don't like target you have to quit the company while these chains,you have the option to change stores or regions.
A lot depends on if you like your crew no matter where u go. If you don't ,no matter how much you get paid becomes irrelevant. Trust me,I just graduated and learning these lessons. The bottom line: If you cannot handle pressure,retail is not for you.PERIOD

 

[MountainPharmD]

Yep, that's exactly what he said. Word for word.

Why are you in pharmacy? With your uncanny ability to put words in people's mouths and make asinine assumptions, you really ought to be working for Fox News.

Please tell me from your own personnal experiences as a pharmacist what did I get wrong?

 

[IrishHammer]

Please tell me from your own personnal experiences as a pharmacist what did I get wrong?

Right, I forgot, it's not until you actually work as a pharmacist that you are able to differentiate between what people say and the interpretation that other people give. Man, good thing I don't pay any attention in class. I should just be coming up with my own clinical decisions as I go anyway. Ziprasidone can cause arrhythmias? Ignorant professors! More like they're perfectly fine and they just think there's something wrong because they're crazy! That's why they're on Ziprasidone to begin with!

What a pathetically attempted straw man that was. Hang your head in shame. My comment was aimed at the fact that you twisted his words, added your own interpretation, and stated your conclusion as if they were his personal beliefs. Please tell me exactly how pharmacy practice in any way is even tangentially related to that. I'll save everyone time and give a spoiler now. It's not. Knowledge of drug interactions, how to deal with billing issues, and patient counseling skills have nothing to do with the ability to detect bull****.

But since we're on the topic of personal experience, do indulge me with more anecdotes from your employ with CVS. I never get tired of hearing your firsthand tales of how horrible they are.

For the love of God, spare yourself the embarrassment and don't ever try pulling the "I'm already a licensed pharmacist and you aren't yet so I'm automatically right" card again. You're the last person on this forum with any right to criticize people for lack of firsthand knowledge, given the amount of time you spend bashing a company that you don't work for.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

Right, I forgot, it's not until you actually work as a pharmacist that you are able to differentiate between what people say and the interpretation that other people give. Man, good thing I don't pay any attention in class. I should just be coming up with my own clinical decisions as I go anyway. Ziprasidone can cause arrhythmias? Ignorant professors! More like they're perfectly fine and they just think there's something wrong because they're crazy! That's why they're on Ziprasidone to begin with!

What a pathetically attempted straw man that was. Hang your head in shame. My comment was aimed at the fact that you twisted his words, added your own interpretation, and stated your conclusion as if they were his personal beliefs. Please tell me exactly how pharmacy practice in any way is even tangentially related to that. I'll save everyone time and give a spoiler now. It's not. Knowledge of drug interactions, how to deal with billing issues, and patient counseling skills have nothing to do with the ability to detect bull****.

But since we're on the topic of personal experience, do indulge me with more anecdotes from your employ with CVS. I never get tired of hearing your firsthand tales of how horrible they are.

For the love of God, spare yourself the embarrassment and don't ever try pulling the "I'm already a licensed pharmacist and you aren't yet so I'm automatically right" card again. You're the last person on this forum with any right to criticize people for lack of firsthand knowledge, given the amount of time you spend bashing a company that you don't work for.

You are a feisty lil fella.

 

[IrishHammer]

You are a feisty lil fella.

It's not that I'm defending CVS or that I think the end point of pharmacy is "to pump out as many prescriptions as possible". Neither are the case. And I do have respect for Mountain for standing up to Walgreens early in his career, and I do believe that he is genuinely saddened and frustrated by watching chain pharmacies start to care less about counseling/patient care and more about the bottom line.

I just find it a little puzzling that he bashes CVS more than anybody else on this board despite not ever working there, while also probably having more "Oh, you don't have any experience as a pharmacist so shut up" and "You're just a pharmacy student so you don't know anything" based posts than any other member. Something doesn't add up. On one hand, he's refuting posts for lack of personal experience, yet he freely bashes a company that he's never worked for. Additionally, in that vein of bashing them, he will twist argument as he did earlier in this thread, and condescendingly dismiss when people who actually work for CVS like OldTime and Rxnupe defend the company.

 

[Rxnupe]

It's not that I'm defending CVS or that I think the end point of pharmacy is "to pump out as many prescriptions as possible". Neither are the case. And I do have respect for Mountain for standing up to Walgreens early in his career, and I do believe that he is genuinely saddened and frustrated by watching chain pharmacies start to care less about counseling/patient care and more about the bottom line.

I just find it a little puzzling that he bashes CVS more than anybody else on this board despite not ever working there, while also probably having more "Oh, you don't have any experience as a pharmacist so shut up" and "You're just a pharmacy student so you don't know anything" based posts than any other member. Something doesn't add up. On one hand, he's refuting posts for lack of personal experience, yet he freely bashes a company that he's never worked for. Additionally, in that vein of bashing them, he will twist argument as he did earlier in this thread, and condescendingly dismiss when people who actually work for CVS like OldTime and Rxnupe defend the company.

I totally agree with you Irish. I come across many Pharmacist like Mountain who can't accept the new changes. CVS and Walgrees are for profit companies- they have stockholders and stock investors and they have to keep them happy. So naturally the only way those companies are going to survive is based on volume- it is what it is. People like Mountain who don't lie the changes- hey all I can say is don't work for those companies and perhaps try to land a job with Sam's or Target where they are not pushing scripts like CVS or Walgreens. I happen to like CVS- is it a perfect company? No. However, I am happy and if I didn't like CV I would go elsewhere, but basically Mountain sounds like a sour grape with an axe to grind.

 

[clachan3]

You should feel lucky for getting an offer from them cause they are very very selective. But one thing to consider is that if you dont like the store your in your screwed because its not like you can transfer into a different store because there just isnt that many Targets... So that is one thing you should take into consideration. Hence my partner couldnt change intoa different store, so he had to leave Target all together and now works at CVS, where theirs one on every corner.

I agree, Target just appears selective because there simple aren't that many spots. Low volume stores only get one full time and one part time pharmacist.

 

[LazyMooch]

I will say that CVS treats its pharmacists better than its techs and front store employees (minus the SM). Having worked there all summer, I can say that that company is horrible to its associates. However, I think that retail in general might all be the same in that regard.

 

[clachan3]

I consider CVS an emetogenic pharmacy.

Hehe I did feel that way toward the end of my CVS days . . .

 

[Unchained]

Ever since Tom Ryan retired and Larry Merlo took over CVS has become the Third Reich of pharmacy chains. I know of many hard working competent managers who have left because they were being forced to employ a very negative management style. Unfortunately it has become this way not only in the pharmacy industry but most others as well. The large corporations no longer value their employees. The large chains have turned the profession into a joke with their drive thru timers,phone timers,SSS scores,pointless telephone calls....etc. It's a shame to see where it's gone.

 

[MountainPharmD]

CVS is awesome!!!! Why would anyone leave? It could be worse I suppose. CVS may not have any techs or clerks left in the pharmacy but at least they still have Pharmacists unlike Walgreens who is trying to get rid of everyone.

 

[CVSstinks]

you embody al that is wrong with pharmacy today. You think the pinnacle of the profession is how fast you can churn out scripts. I hate to break it to you but they can train a monkey to do that. You are no more a healthcare professionl than a person who works in a warehouse packing boxes. It makes me sad to read your posts. You are part of the reason the profession is going to chit.

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