Tattoos and an Aspiring Anesthesiologist

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So, I am an aspiring anesthesiologist and I want a tattoo on my left pointer finger. Here's the deal, it's not going to be big, just a thin half circle in white ink. I'm tan so it won't show up a lot, but it's also very easily hidden with a ring. And even then I would usually be wearing gloves, right? I know there's that whole stigma around doctors with visible tattoos, but what if it's tiny and easily hidden?

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I'm not an anesthesiologist, so I can't definitively say... but it would largely depend on the region you live/work in.

i.e. West coast, Denver, Portland = tattoo friendly and are encouraged

Southeast , not so much.

But all that aside, do whatever you want.
 
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Tattoo away, brother.

Anyone who would have an "issue" with it might also have an issue with someone, say, having facial hair, or wearing a headscarf, or any number of other reasonable personal grooming/hygiene/dress choices that have no bearing on your ability to do your job. F*ck 'em.
 
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Maybe it is a reminder of something or someone. Even in conservative midwest I see no issue with something like that. A sleeve or face tattoo would be a different story.
 
So, I am an aspiring anesthesiologist and I want a tattoo on my left pointer finger. Here's the deal, it's not going to be big, just a thin half circle in white ink. I'm tan so it won't show up a lot, but it's also very easily hidden with a ring. And even then I would usually be wearing gloves, right? I know there's that whole stigma around doctors with visible tattoos, but what if it's tiny and easily hidden?
You are wasting our time with stupid questions.
2win
 
So go ahead and "share" your opinion on the finger tatoo topic.
If this one is not dumb - what is it?
So tell me - what finger is the best for a tatoo?
Do you like it now?
On the other side - concerns for our profession are valid - this is the reason DEAR PGG that you fond so many topics/
It is clear for you now?
Now - if we 're talking knowledge of anesthesia and critical care, pain, cardiac ( in peds I am not good) - let's find a time and we'll do a trivia in real time.
I hope that my credentials will make it fun.
If not - we'll see,
Are up to it?
20 questions.
If I fail I will apologies - to the finger tatoo ******.
If I win - you will quit the moderator position.
And it is fair ...
2win
 
So go ahead and "share" your opinion on the finger tatoo topic.
If this one is not dumb - what is it?
So tell me - what finger is the best for a tatoo?
Do you like it now?
On the other side - concerns for our profession are valid - this is the reason DEAR PGG that you fond so many topics/
It is clear for you now?
Now - if we 're talking knowledge of anesthesia and critical care, pain, cardiac ( in peds I am not good) - let's find a time and we'll do a trivia in real time.
I hope that my credentials will make it fun.
If not - we'll see,
Are up to it?
20 questions.
If I fail I will apologies - to the finger tatoo ******.
If I win - you will quit the moderator position.
And it is fair ...
2win

Wtf is even going on right now?
 
Wtf is even going on right now?
All is fine.
PGG is a great guy and we''re playing a pissing contest.
Just for fun - I can't get why he allowed this subject.
Maybe because we live in a world of Kardashians and this is the "new"fashion.
This thread shouldn't be allowed to start with.
Are we intellectuals, gentlemans or stupid average guys?
That's all.
Bourbon, guns, hunting - all good topics.
Money - a kind of degrading subject, although I am in the business.
Medicine, Anesthesia, Pain, CCM , Echo - my love.
If I will ( ever) see the guy who posted the initial thread ....
Lord have mercy.
 
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I want a tattoo on my left pointer finger.

Ain't no thing, but you might get some questions about it. It's easily covered with a bandaid for interview season. I've known residents with tattoo'd wedding bands on their ring finger.

One of my favorite old ICU attendings had an calf/ankle tat that showed past his scrubs when he sat down.
 
Ain't no thing, but you might get some questions about it. It's easily covered with a bandaid for interview season. I've known residents with tattoo'd wedding bands on their ring finger.

One of my favorite old ICU attendings had an calf/ankle tat that showed past his scrubs when he sat down.
Such a kind advice. LOL
THAT'S NOT REAL
 
The times they are a-changin'

I think this would be a relevant comment on just about everything in this forum...
 
Want a tat? Get one. Be your own person. Some people will always judge. F*ck em. I know many docs with tats.
Sure - if you want a tatoo to be "your own person" do it.
If you don't have a brain - listen to this monkey.
Paint your skin, your hair even the anal sphincter - because you are "your own person".
Please, please listen to piano concerto Beethoven , some Tchaikovsky ....and think again.
If you need to paint yourself to find your identity you belong in a mental institution.
2win
I would like to ban the original poster - he degrades the physicians name
No more replies to a ******ed member of the community.
 
Sure - if you want a tatoo to be "your own person" do it.
If you don't have a brain - listen to this monkey.
Paint your skin, your hair even the anal sphincter - because you are "your own person".
Please, please listen to piano concerto Beethoven , some Tchaikovsky ....and think again.
If you need to paint yourself to find your identity you belong in a mental institution.
2win
I would like to ban the original poster - he degrades the physicians name
No more replies to a ******ed member of the community.

I'm embarrassed that you are an anesthesiologist.
 
So, I am an aspiring anesthesiologist ?
i didnt know people aspired to be an anesthesiologist.

but there are anesthesiologists who are drunks, sex offenders, drug diverters and abusers, major personality disorders, scofflaws, etc etc.. I dont think a tattoo will prevent you from doing your job.
 
2win is taking things to another level but I admit I cringed when I read the OP
 
I remember when I was a resident, there was a med student with full sleeves on both arms that was interested in anesthesia. I work with a surgeon (one of the better ones too) with multiple tattoos on forearms and neck. Its 2015, most open minded people could care less about stuff like that.
 
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Part of being a highly respected professional with a high socioeconomic status is being a classy individual. It comes with the territory. Why don't you regularly see doctors, bankers, CPAs, CEOs, etc wearing tattoos? Because it's low class ****. If you want to engage in low class ****, people are going to think you are low class. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a hippie or a super liberal. That's the real world non pc answer for you. You are not a barista at your local hipster coffee shop, you are a physician and the standards are higher.
 
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Little tattoos in inconspicuous cases? Not a problem at all. Full sleeve tats? Open minded or not, that will close some doors.
 
Little tattoos in inconspicuous cases? Not a problem at all. Full sleeve tats? Open minded or not, that will close some doors.
Maybe my institution is an anomaly but full sleeve tats, large highly visible tats and everything in between are common among attending anesthesiologists, cardiac surgeons, pediatricians, family docs, IM docs, ENT's, etc. The year is 2015, not 1915. People have open minds now, believe it or not.
 
I have tattoos. So do about 30% of my class. I have my wedding rings tattooed on my hands. And before anyone gives me any crap whatsoever about being just a med student... I had those tattoos when I worked for years as a nurse, working with clinicians of all types, including physicians, who had tattoos.

If you are good at what you do, no one is going to kick about a barely visible bit of ink on your hand.
 
Part of being a highly respected professional with a high socioeconomic status is being a classy individual. It comes with the territory. Why don't you regularly see doctors, bankers, CPAs, CEOs, etc wearing tattoos? Because it's low class ****. If you want to engage in low class ****, people are going to think you are low class. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a hippie or a super liberal. That's the real world non pc answer for you. You are not a barista at your local hipster coffee shop, you are a physician and the standards are higher.

So how exactly are you a 'hippie or super liberal' if you choose to judge someone on their character or ability as a physician?

Sounds like a pretty outdated way to think.
 
Part of being a highly respected professional with a high socioeconomic status is being a classy individual. It comes with the territory. Why don't you regularly see doctors, bankers, CPAs, CEOs, etc wearing tattoos? Because it's low class ****. If you want to engage in low class ****, people are going to think you are low class. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a hippie or a super liberal. That's the real world non pc answer for you. You are not a barista at your local hipster coffee shop, you are a physician and the standards are higher.

You aren't classy... you are classist. There is a world of difference.
 
You aren't classy... you are classist. There is a world of difference.
Sorry, dude, but looks matter a lot when dealing with patients. I get more respect in my street clothes with a white coat than with just my scrubs on. Even from the nurses, who are like "Wow, you look elegant."

Same goes for tattoos, bad haircuts, chewing gum, eating/drinking during rounds or while talking to a patient, treating everybody as their equal, and other "classist" things that millenials think are OK (as a consequence of their lax and spoiled "education"). One has to look the part.

It doesn't matter how competent you are, unless you are a badass surgeon/specialist that everybody wants and can charge hundreds/thousands of dollars per hour of work. Then, and only then, you can look as if homeless, if that makes you happy. But not while you are just a replaceable cog.

In many other parts of the world, having tattoos equals blue collar or criminal level. Just watch at conferences how many foreign doctors have tattoos.
 
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Sorry, dude, but looks matter a lot when dealing with patients. I get more respect in my street clothes with a white coat than with just my scrubs on. Even from the nurses, who are like "Wow, you look elegant."

Same goes for tattoos, bad haircuts, chewing gum, eating/drinking during rounds or while talking to a patient, treating everybody as their equal, and other "classist" things that millenials think are OK (as a consequence of their lax and spoiled "education"). One has to look the part.

In many other parts of the world, having tattoos equals blue collar or criminal level. Just watch at conferences how many foreign doctors have tattoos.
I can't agree more!
2win
 
I can't agree more!
2win
Ditto. I want my physicians that care for me to look the part. I interact with over 1000 surgeons on staff and an anesthesia staff of over 2o0 in my department - I can tell you exactly how many visible tattoos of any sort (except for the ring tattoos) there are on that entire group - none. I fully admit - I'm old school. Look the part.
 
I would rather someone who is competent with a tattoo than someone who is barely competent without one taking care of me.
 
What's wrong with tatoos?

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I kid... I don't have any.
I 100% support them.... unless you are a freaky lizard.
 
I'm on the west coast and I see sleeves in the OR all the time.
Some are really nice pieces of skin art.
 
I'm not a millenial. Nor are any of the attendings, fellows, etc. with whom I've worked who sport tattoos.

The world is changing though. Once upon a time, only blue collar folks, criminals, and those who had served their country (also, usually from blue collar families) had tattoos.

Now, nice girls from upper class families have them. Middle class family guys have them. Grandmothers have them. Lots of people have decided that a little ink isn't a terrible thing. Patients certainly have them, and every interaction I've had with a patient who noticed one of my tattoos and wanted to mention it was a positive one. There may be some who are quietly, sullenly judging me, but I'll take that in trade for the hundreds I've connected with over a common personal interest.

You can try to cling to the past and insist that everyone live up to the standards of your childhood, and if you have the power to enforce that, you might even hold the line for a while. You, too, can pass over talented recruits because of something so literally skin deep, and they will find places elsewhere. Meanwhile, you will maintain your enclave of the past until you, too, are eventually replaced by someone with ink or who doesn't care if others have it or not.

They, meanwhile, will hold the line against whatever the next social trend may be. Same as it ever was. Those damned kids find a way to get on your lawn, generation after generation.
 
The Army relaxed its tattoo regulations earlier this year. Soldiers can now have sleeve and leg tattoos, so long as they can be covered by the long-sleeve uniform. So, still nothing on the hands, neck, or face. (There's an exception for wedding ring tattoos.)

There's probably no group of people with a longer tradition of embracing tattoos, than guys who make a living at killing people ... and in modern times even they give the nod to appearance and professionalism by limiting certain kinds of tattoos.

Does anyone really dispute the fact that visible tattoos make a negative impression on many people? You can argue that it's outdated and unfair, but let's not deny the perception exists. Doctors (all specialties) are in a service industry. If the Army wants tattoos to be concealable for more formal occasions ... maybe there's still something to it.
 
Good luck with that, @Promethean !

Thanks! It is working for me so far!

The Army relaxed its tattoo regulations earlier this year. Soldiers can now have sleeve and leg tattoos, so long as they can be covered by the long-sleeve uniform. So, still nothing on the hands, neck, or face. (There's an exception for wedding ring tattoos.)

If the Army wants tattoos to be concealable for more formal occasions ... maybe there's still something to it.

OP isn't talking about getting JENNY or a skull inked on his or her forehead, but something much more akin to a wedding ring tat. Even the Army, which relaxed its regulations, recognizes that a tasteful ring tattoo is not worth pitching a fit over.
 
OP isn't talking about getting JENNY or a skull inked on his or her forehead, but something much more akin to a wedding ring tat. Even the Army, which relaxed its regulations, recognizes that a tasteful ring tattoo is not worth pitching a fit over.
I am not talking about 1-2 small tattoos. I am talking about stuff that's bigger than just a few square centimeters, in total.

And there are very few things that look tasteful to everybody, so prepare to be judged, the same way one is judged for having an accent, or being fat, or being gay, or Muslim etc. People have preconceptions that change very slowly, if ever.
 
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We are not talking about a small tattoo here and there. We are talking about stuff that's bigger than just a few square centimeters.

I refer you to the original post:

So, I am an aspiring anesthesiologist and I want a tattoo on my left pointer finger. Here's the deal, it's not going to be big, just a thin half circle in white ink. I'm tan so it won't show up a lot, but it's also very easily hidden with a ring. And even then I would usually be wearing gloves, right? I know there's that whole stigma around doctors with visible tattoos, but what if it's tiny and easily hidden?

To the extent that I brought up my large, obvious ink, it was to reassure this person that their insignificant little band would not likely close any doors for them.
 
Easily hidden is not invisible. If one wants tattoos, one should put them where only s/he can see them.

Also I would be careful about what gets tattooed.
 
Meh. If you want one, especially one that is inconspicuous, it won't matter. Most places (my children's hospital included) don't care, as long as the tattoo is not offensive.

I will say though if you are a single guy and jacked it will definitely get positive attention from a lot of women. Especially if it's a sleeve/pec tattoo combo a la the rock. I mean it's dumb but the women seem to eat it up. And not just trashy chicks, educated ones too. Ahh well helps justify the ~1k I spent on it haha
 
So, I am an aspiring anesthesiologist and I want a tattoo on my left pointer finger. Here's the deal, it's not going to be big, just a thin half circle in white ink. I'm tan so it won't show up a lot, but it's also very easily hidden with a ring. And even then I would usually be wearing gloves, right? I know there's that whole stigma around doctors with visible tattoos, but what if it's tiny and easily hidden?
Don't do it.

You will find in anesthesia, the most useful and liked drugs are ones that are easily reversible, act quickly and leave quickly.

Apply that same principle to life. Make decisions that if you regret, you don't have to live with for ever.

Most people never think the same way they did 10 years previously or will think the same in 10 years from now.

However, if you DO decide to do it, make damn sure you go to a shop that uses the more expensive ink recently invented but rarely used that is 100% laser erasable. That's just good sense.
 
Good discussion. Is there a similar thread on piercings? I'm concerned about doing MRI cases...
 
I'm not a millenial. Nor are any of the attendings, fellows, etc. with whom I've worked who sport tattoos.

The world is changing though. Once upon a time, only blue collar folks, criminals, and those who had served their country (also, usually from blue collar families) had tattoos.

Now, nice girls from upper class families have them. Middle class family guys have them. Grandmothers have them. Lots of people have decided that a little ink isn't a terrible thing. Patients certainly have them, and every interaction I've had with a patient who noticed one of my tattoos and wanted to mention it was a positive one. There may be some who are quietly, sullenly judging me, but I'll take that in trade for the hundreds I've connected with over a common personal interest.

You can try to cling to the past and insist that everyone live up to the standards of your childhood, and if you have the power to enforce that, you might even hold the line for a while. You, too, can pass over talented recruits because of something so literally skin deep, and they will find places elsewhere. Meanwhile, you will maintain your enclave of the past until you, too, are eventually replaced by someone with ink or who doesn't care if others have it or not.

They, meanwhile, will hold the line against whatever the next social trend may be. Same as it ever was. Those damned kids find a way to get on your lawn, generation after generation.
I'm a millenial and tattoos gross me out personally, but to each his own I guess...
 
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