TCOM versus Touro-CA

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Help! So, I've gotten into TCOM with no strings attached. I interviewed at Touro-CA and was put on the high wait-list. I really like some aspects of TCOM, but don't know as much about their program. Everyone was really nice while I was there and they seem to be an extremely established school. Touro-CA though has a great location in terms of being near San Fran and everyone once again was nice but the 3rd and 4th years seem to be somewhat skattered. Is there any input out there? Also, there's the big money issue....TCOM is ~$12,000/yr while Touro-CA was ~$37,000. Is there even any competition between the two? Does TCOM win handsdown? I'm just hung up on the location of Touro. Anyone from these schools have any advice?
 
Help! So, I've gotten into TCOM with no strings attached. I interviewed at Touro-CA and was put on the high wait-list. I really like some aspects of TCOM, but don't know as much about their program. Everyone was really nice while I was there and they seem to be an extremely established school. Touro-CA though has a great location in terms of being near San Fran and everyone once again was nice but the 3rd and 4th years seem to be somewhat skattered. Is there any input out there? Also, there's the big money issue....TCOM is ~$12,000/yr while Touro-CA was ~$37,000. Is there even any competition between the two? Does TCOM win handsdown? I'm just hung up on the location of Touro. Anyone from these schools have any advice?

TCOM wins so hardcore in every single way. No contest whatsoever.
 
TCOM is ~$12,000/yr while Touro-CA was ~$37,000.

Are you kidding? For one thing TCOM is regarded more highly as having a more stable program. For another the COA difference added up over 4 years is just stupid cheaper. Decision is already made. I would go to a lesser caliber school for that cheap of tuition but for you it's a win win in both areas. Take it and run! 👍
 
My vote would be for Touro-Ca, but you're right about years 3-4. If you think that you would be comfortable at both schools then I would probably lean towards the cheaper school, though. Being on the high waitlist means you will most likely be offered a seat, but won't have to make a decision (or send a deposit) until the summer.
 
Touro CA doesn't even hold a candle to TCOM. When I interviewed at Touro CA, I hated everything about that school. TCOM beats Touro in every way possible. TCOM all the way, don't even think twice about it. I didn't even think this was a serious thread at first.
 
This isn't even close. Unless there is some requirement such as family, TCOM is better in every single way. Even the students at Touro didn't seem too excited. I asked them their impressions when I went the day before the interview and most just shrugged and said "It is medical school...I love the location though". The number one reason EVERY person I talked to gave was the location. I personally found the Touro campus pretty depressing too. Dr. Haight is exceedingly nice and I didn't meet anyone that was "mean" there, but it just didn't leave a great impression with me. I wanted to like it so so bad since I love the bay area, but it just didn't win out.
 
To elaborate... Nothing against Touro, but you're talking about a fairly young school that is notorious for having issues with their clinical sites, against one of the better medical schools in the country. Note that I didn't modify that with "osteopathic".

So now I will say that if you don't choose TCOM, you are ******ed.
 
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TCOM all the way and period. :laugh:

Touro family is expanding too fast in its medical education focus; with one more school starting soon in NJ, their finances will have to be adjusted accordingly.
 
I've lived in both San Francisco and Dallas area, of course the San Francisco area wins hands down and if you want to get a residency in California, you should go there, but TCOM wins on everything else.
 
I've lived in both San Francisco and Dallas area, of course the San Francisco area wins hands down and if you want to get a residency in California, you should go there, but TCOM wins on everything else.

I really doubt it has that much influence in the bay area. From what I've heard, it's really hard to get rotations in that area and that DOs are really poorly represented in the bay. There is nothing it really has above TCOM.
 
San Francisco is great. My aunt and uncle live there. But Touro is not in San Francisco, and TCOM is not in Dallas. And Ft. Worth kicks the **** out of Vallejo.
 
TCOM hands down! You'd be crazy to pass up $12k per year in tuition!
 
Thank you all for your replies!! I'll hang my head in shame now for even posing the question. It seems that the answer is very clear. I think I just needed some extra help to fully commit to my decision and you guys definitely helped with that! I'll be at TCOM next year.....definitely don't want to be "******ed." ;-)

Thank you all!!! Any more info about both schools would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
Is the tuition also 12K/year for non-residents?
 
My vote would be for Touro-Ca, but you're right about years 3-4. If you think that you would be comfortable at both schools then I would probably lean towards the cheaper school, though. Being on the high waitlist means you will most likely be offered a seat, but won't have to make a decision (or send a deposit) until the summer.

lol

geography bias much? 😉
 
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TCOM is probably just fine. I'm not sure on what basis (besides price) the resounding recommendation comes. We can of course look at match results, board scores, etc. But the truth is that school is what you make of it. You get out what you put in. In general, at med school you buy the books, follow the profs guidance, dissect, and try and do some fun things in between. There isn't time for much else. We are all learning similar basic concepts. Can there really be such a discrepancy? I think that ones med school decision is based in a set of inputs specific to each person. Use caution when others tell you how 'good' a school is because you may have different criteria and goals.
Finally a plug for Osteopathic Medicine in general. We are taught that complete health is a summation of the health of the body, mind, and spirit, and that the body has an inherent ability to heal itself. If you understand and embrace these simple concepts, Osteopathic medical school is for you.

That said, here's some food for thought:

TUCOM-CA strengths:
- On this site, you will see repeated accolades for TUCOM-CA profs. I stress this once again. 100% professor commitment to student success. Experienced 1st hand!

- OMM department has top notch nationally renowned leadership and staff. The school has OMM excitement in the hallways daily. There is active OMM research activity, and consistent OMM extracurricular opportunity.

- Location!!!!! Can't beat Bay area. Yes, it's in vallejo, which is not SF. But being located in a community like Vallejo is a strenght I think. The community is not affluent. It has unmet healthcare needs. So it's ripe for student involvement. The med school is active at La Clinica, Pregnancy Partners, Student Run Pediatric clinics, Local teen tutoring programs, Teen Life conferences, and the Mare Island 5K race among others. There is a ferry to SF, and students are not distracted by the big city which is a good thing, and can still enjoy it when needed.

- Clinical rotation sites in the Bay area (+80 currently), with options to go elsewhere (colorado, ny, michigan, + others) if desired. It is true that this is not currently the schools strongest point , but they are ACTIVELY improving this. Two full time staff were recently hired to focus on clinical education alone. As i understand it, 0 students have gone without rotation sites ever. So it is not a problem, just a situation that is being improved. I do not believe that this should drive a med school decision. You will rotate.

- Students. The selection process is unique. The interview process uses a unique format, and this give the staff a fresh selection style. I truly believe that TUCOM-CA does not select based on numbers, but based on the individual. There are student in the classes with MCAT scores ranging from 23 to 38. There are 'esoteric healer' types, and hardcore scientists. The average age is about 27, (21 to 36).

- Love life: My class seems to love life!

Thanks! Good luck with you decisions.
 
TCOM is probably just fine. I'm not sure on what basis (besides price) the resounding recommendation comes. We can of course look at match results, board scores, etc. But the truth is that school is what you make of it. You get out what you put in. In general, at med school you buy the books, follow the profs guidance, dissect, and try and do some fun things in between. There isn't time for much else. We are all learning similar basic concepts. Can there really be such a discrepancy? I think that ones med school decision is based in a set of inputs specific to each person. Use caution when others tell you how 'good' a school is because you may have different criteria and goals.
Finally a plug for Osteopathic Medicine in general. We are taught that complete health is a summation of the health of the body, mind, and spirit, and that the body has an inherent ability to heal itself. If you understand and embrace these simple concepts, Osteopathic medical school is for you.

That said, here's some food for thought:

TUCOM-CA strengths:
- On this site, you will see repeated accolades for TUCOM-CA profs. I stress this once again. 100% professor commitment to student success. Experienced 1st hand!

- OMM department has top notch nationally renowned leadership and staff. The school has OMM excitement in the hallways daily. There is active OMM research activity, and consistent OMM extracurricular opportunity.

- Location!!!!! Can't beat Bay area. Yes, it's in vallejo, which is not SF. But being located in a community like Vallejo is a strenght I think. The community is not affluent. It has unmet healthcare needs. So it's ripe for student involvement. The med school is active at La Clinica, Pregnancy Partners, Student Run Pediatric clinics, Local teen tutoring programs, Teen Life conferences, and the Mare Island 5K race among others. There is a ferry to SF, and students are not distracted by the big city which is a good thing, and can still enjoy it when needed.

- Clinical rotation sites in the Bay area (+80 currently), with options to go elsewhere (colorado, ny, michigan, + others) if desired. It is true that this is not currently the schools strongest point , but they are ACTIVELY improving this. Two full time staff were recently hired to focus on clinical education alone. As i understand it, 0 students have gone without rotation sites ever. So it is not a problem, just a situation that is being improved. I do not believe that this should drive a med school decision. You will rotate.

- Students. The selection process is unique. The interview process uses a unique format, and this give the staff a fresh selection style. I truly believe that TUCOM-CA does not select based on numbers, but based on the individual. There are student in the classes with MCAT scores ranging from 23 to 38. There are 'esoteric healer' types, and hardcore scientists. The average age is about 27, (21 to 36).

- Love life: My class seems to love life!

Thanks! Good luck with you decisions.

You must be a MS-1 🙂

I believe most of the touro-ca criticism comes from 3rd and 4th year students. Despite what you believe, clinicals are a huge factor in choosing the right school for your medical education. Some would say it is the most important one.

At any rate, TCOM is hands down better in every way that matters. That doesn't mean that Touro-CA is a bad school, just that choosing TCOM over Touro is not wise unless location is an overriding factor in your decision process.
 
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I do not believe that this should drive a med school decision. You will rotate.
Disagree 100%. You learn the same biochemistry anywhere. Obviously its a personal decision with what's more important for you being different from me, but it would without a doubt be my #1 factor.
 
There are few schools that have their **** together the way TCOM does. Its cheap (dirt-cheap for in-state, but out-of-state is still cheaper than most other places), its very well-off financially, its in a pretty cool little city, and it offers a ton of options for clinicals. Including a rural medicine tract, which would put you in a lot of underserved areas, and give you a lot of hands-on experience.

But that tract hardly locks you in to rural practice. I used to work with a girl who went through that tract, and ended up doing her EM residency at Duke. Now she's an attending at UMC-Brackenridge, in Austin, which is the Central TX regional trauma center.

That's not to say that you can't achieve just as much at Touro, but TCOM has a lot going for them.
 
I had to make almost exactly the same decision last year, and ended up choosing Touro b/c I think it offered the best environment for my osteopathic education. I haven't once regretted my choice, although I hold TCOM in very high regard. If you're in it for the osteopathy, which many people are not and that's totally fine, you might consider that Touro fosters that deeply and unsparingly. Someone earlier said that you get what you put in no matter where you're at, and that's true, but you're not dumb for giving full consideration to two excellent options. You should be able to get a quality education no matter where you choose.
 
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