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Teaching optometry

Discussion in 'Optometry' started by sembaruthi, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. sembaruthi

    sembaruthi Junior Member
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    Hey all,
    just a random question for anyone in an opt school or anyone that may know....are most of the prof. optometrists.....and if so do they have an addn'l Ph.D?? Thaanks
     
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  3. r_salis

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    Generally -- clinical faculty are ODs (some with additional degrees: MAs, MPHs, etc.), and didactic faculty are PhDs or OD/PhDs.
     
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    rpames Optometrist
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    Most of the basic science profs are just PhD's, some OD/PhD. We actually have a PhD/DC! He is new so I never had him. Our clinical faculty are ODs and MDs. Clinical Medicine is taught by a MD only. Ocular Emergencies has some taught by an MD and some by ODs. Most of the ODs are also FAAO, meaning they are Fellows of the American Association of Optometry.
     
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    Same deal at SUNY as well.
     
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    The PhD/DC was my interviewer... Dr. Bakkum I believe. Pretty nice guy, but asked tough questions! The PhD/DC combo is pretty unusual, but it is nice that he brings a different perspective to the table. I believe he teaches histology, doesn't he?
     
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    I think it is histo and neuro, but I'm not sure.
     
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    Most schools minimum requirement for a clinical instructor is an OD with a residency training, or equivalent and eligible to get licensed in the state that the school is in. Usually all clinical instructors are encouraged by administration to get advanced degrees like MS, PhD etc., if they don’t already have one, and also require all clinical faculty have an FAAO.

    For basic sciences, a PhD is usually required. People with an OD/PhD, MD/OD, OD/DDS, and MD/PhDs are considered the most desirable.
     
  9. ProZackMI

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    I would guess opt school is similar to most professional schools, like med school, in that you have five types of faculty:

    FULL-TIME FACULTY, CLINICAL:
    - These would be ODs who teach the clinical classes, who may have add'l
    degrees, but could be just ODs. In med school, most just have an MD or
    MD/MS or MD/MPH. I would guess you might have a few MD or DO OMDs
    working as clinicals at an opt school.

    FULL-TIME FACULTY, SCIENCES/ACADEMIC:
    - These would be PhDs (or ScDs) who teach basic and advanced sciences
    like pharmacology, anatomy, biochem, mol. bio, parasitology, etc. I would
    guess if opt school is similar to med school, most of these profs would be
    tenured PhDs, not OD-PhDs.

    FULL-TIME FACULTY, RESEARCH:
    - These could be OD-PHD, OD, MD, DVM, PharmD, PhD, ScD, or any other
    academic background; they would teach specialized classes, OR just
    conduct research. You might have a research prof there at your school
    who teaches one or two classes per year but spends most of his/her time
    conducting specialized funded research (e.g., macular degeneration, lasik,
    glaucoma, diabetic retinopathy, etc.).

    PART-TIME FACULTY, CLINICAL:
    - Usually ODs and OMDs who work full-time in their own practice, but do PT
    teaching, and usually, in a specialized or general area (e.g., assessment,
    pharm, testing, refraction, etc.). In med school, most of the local
    physicians held some form of "courtesy" or official faculty appointment and
    did some part-time teaching or preceptor work, often at the residency
    level, but sometimes in med school. You might have local ODs who teach
    part-time and, if your school is like my med school, some of these profs
    were way better than the tenured dinosaurs who haven't practiced in
    years. It's nice to be trained by someone who is actually out there "in the
    trenches" and practicing rather than some old fossil who has been in the
    "Ivory Tower" for decades. I had one "clincal" full-time prof once ask a
    student what an HMO was. This was an MD who had been teaching
    since 1970!! Talk about out of touch!

    PART-TIME FACULTY, ADJUNCT:
    - These can be optometrists, physicians, lawyers, social workers,
    psychologists, physicists, etc. They are usually clinical, but could be more
    academic. In med school, we had a health care attorney teach a class on
    medical jurisprudence and health care law. We had a veterinarian teach
    a class on pathology. A psychologist taught a class on patient inter-
    viewing and "bedside manner". In my residency, many non-physicians
    served as preceptors and instructors. It was nice to have a more
    holistic view point rather than just an MD (or in your case, an OD) view
    point.

    If you're interested in teaching, your OD should be more than adequate to teach a clinical skill, but if you wish to specialize, or teach a more scientific subject, usually your professional degree plus a graduate degree, like an MS/MA/MPH or PhD/JD/DPH is required.
     

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