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how do you go into teaching after getting your OD.
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doing a residency gives you the ability to teach what levels?
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We have professors at our school who have tenure that don't have a PhD. I am sure it varies by school but it isn't required everywhere.
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what school if i may ask?
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Here we go again. Shnurek, are you ever going to stop making assumptions and answering questions without understanding the topic at hand? It is untrue that "If you want tenure, then you need a PhD." I have worked with many optometric faculty members who hold tenure and do not have PhDs.
You clearly like to answer questions as if you're already an expert, but it's better to wait until you actually understand a topic before you hold yourself out as an authority. That goes for all areas of life, not just optometry forums.
Also, you do not need a residency to teach so I don't know where you got that from. Most schools require residency training for FT faculty, but I have worked with some highly-respected senior FT faculty that never did a residency in anything. The simple answer to the question is; you can teach the day after you're first licensed with no additional training whatsoever - yet another reason our newest schools will be pumping out poorly-trained ODs in the near future.
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Yes, the head-in-the-sand approach to information you dislike is very effective and should be used whenever possible.
You seem to be the first to answer just about any question on here, whether it's clinical (odd, you're a first year), application-related, or just about any other topic. It's terrifying that you don't know what you don't know.
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As a lurker I just want to say that I agree with Jason.
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Pacific also offers a Masters degree in education that you can take classes along with ur OD classes so you graduate with both degrees at the same time. I'm not sure if you can teach without a masters? Do any other schools do this?
I usually stay out of it the JasonK/Shnurek entertainment, but since it's relevant: JasonK is right about this topic.
Here at OSU, we have faculty that did not get their masters (attendings in the clinic mostly) and some that did get a masters and are assisting a PhD and working towards their own PhD. They do offer a combined OD/MS program at OSU, and you can also get your MS post-OD if you wish.
I can only speak from experience here at OSU, which I why I made a note of the school above. I won't go and assume what may or may not be true at the other schools. If you are serious about going into education in optometry, I would call around. It isn't something that most will put on their website, but you can always ask to speak with someone in administration at your school of interest and see what they require for their staff.
Here at OSU, we have faculty that did not get their masters (attendings in the clinic mostly) and some that did get a masters and are assisting a PhD and working towards their own PhD. They do offer a combined OD/MS program at OSU, and you can also get your MS post-OD if you wish.
I can only speak from experience here at OSU, which I why I made a note of the school above. I won't go and assume what may or may not be true at the other schools. If you are serious about going into education in optometry, I would call around. It isn't something that most will put on their website, but you can always ask to speak with someone in administration at your school of interest and see what they require for their staff.
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We do offer a Masters in Education but it is more to understand the education side of things and less to prepare to you be a professor.
We have plenty of professors that do not have a master's degree. Again, it does depend on the specific school, but when I did a project for school I was told that they prefer their new faculty to either have been residency trained or have worked for 5 - 10 years before teaching.
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I don't think I've ever before witnessed in this forum a practitioner so ridiculously bound to whining about his profession and picking fights with students.
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I stopped reading his/her posts a loooong time ago.
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I've never once "picked a fight with students." I've responded to the idiotic comments such as the one listed above, both yours and the ridiculous fantasies of a clueless SUNY 1st year who never passes up an opportunity to crap in my food bowl.
Since you're up for sharing your opinion, why don't you find me a post in which I "picked a fight with a student?" Just one would be fine. I'm sure you'll just run and hide like netmag always does when confronted about his false claims. Who knows, maybe you're another one of netmags multiple personalities on this site? Also,perhaps you should review the definitions for "responding" and "instigating." They're two different words. Take a few minutes and look them up.....and maybe go put on some pants and learn something.
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I find it amusing that your handing out fatherly advice from a seat in a 1st year class. For your info I do live like a student. Remember that 16 year old car I mentioned about 6 months ago? Still drivin it, chief. Youll be living like one for as long as youre in optometry so Id get used to those PB&Js that mom makes for you. Mac and cheese gets a little old after a while, but that will be ok since your professional satisfaction will make up for it, working 6 days/wk.
The L on your forehead is there because of the mismatch between what you think optometry is and what youre actually going to get. It has nothing to do with the fact that your parents are funding your educational waywardness. Youve climbed aboard a sinking ship; you just dont see it yet. You will when your head drops below the waterline.
Also, you used big boy twice which really sounds a bit lame. Try to mix it up a bit.
Here are some alternatives: hoss, big fella, rough rider, sleigh master, superman, sheriff, etc
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lols
http://www.revoptom.com/content/d/annual_comanagement_report/i/1835/c/33144/
"Looking at the other side, the number of U.S. ophthalmologists is expected to increase from 15,000 in 2008 to 15,101 by 2015. This change includes an estimated addition of 3,124 new ophthalmologists over the seven-year period and the anticipated retirement of 3,023 ophthalmologists.2
From 2008 to 2015, the number of cataract/IOL surgical procedures alone will increase from an estimated 3,092,000 to approximately 3,851,000.3 Additionally, patients requiring treatment for vitrectomies, refractive surgical procedures, glaucoma management, macular degeneration and vision-threatening diabetic retinopathy will also increase, justifying the need for the expanded role of optometrists to address the non-surgical aspects of these conditions."
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You're dreaming there, Road Blaster. Ophthalmologists will do just fine treating the "non-surgical aspects of those conditions" on their own. They don't need our help, but ODs will be there to try and take the work any way they can.
You're buying into the AOA propaganda machine - "The aging babyboomers will have soooooo much eye pathology, how will we ever treat them all? .....I guess we need more OD programs to create more ODs."
