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I just wanted to throw up something to help some people out, as these boards have helped me significantly in the past. I was a member of the Temple Post Baccalaureate Program, and I cannot say enough good things about it. I thought there was no way I would become a doctor, but now I will be happily starting at Temple Medicine.

I think the program is extraordinarily tough, but if you can do it you will achieve your goal of becoming a doctor. The positives of the program are many, and I will do my best to list them. Additionally, consider that this will be on top of the fact that they are changing the program next year, and it sounds like it is going to be even better.

First of all, I feel like I got a great foundation. I knew very little about science coming in (I was a humanities major). In less then a year, I learned so much, and I feel like I will have a solid foundation going into medical school. Evidence of this was also reflected in my MCAT score, which was above average for many schools. Another great thing is the community atmosphere that the program creates. I have made some of my best friends in this program. The faculty are fantastic. The administration bent over backward for our class. They are clearly invested in seeing us all succeed. Then there is the school itself. I love the research that the school does, and the priority they put into good research and good research equipment. The facility is beautiful. If you are interested in cardio, pulm, or HIV research, this is a great school for you.

The little I know about the changes to the program: you do not have to take the MCAT. This development is huge in my opinion. You still have to hit the GPA requirement (3.6 I think), but no more of that scary test. RESEARCH. It really breaks my heart that I was not able to be in this upcoming year, because apparently there is going to be a heavier research and shadowing component. That is my favorite part, and most representative of med school. Additionally, the sciences you learn will be geared toward medicine. For instance, the physics class is going to focus on the physics of the human body.

The only negatives I can really think about the program are the price, and (for some) that you will be committed to the area. That really worked out great for me, because I wanted to be in the Philadelphia market since the beginning--but if you are hoping to go to a medical school closer to your home or someplace with a beach, that's not something that will most likely happen. Although, Temple has several campuses--but I think they are all within 2 hours of philly. But Temple is a great school, and Philadelphia is a great city, so I would definitely recommend this program to anyone looking to change their life and become a physician.

Feel free to hit me up with any questions, and I will do my best to answer them.
 
Were you a student of the ACMS or BCMS program? What is your opinion of Dr. Scott Shore the new director of the post-bac program?
 
BCMS. It is sad that Grace is gone, but Scott Shore is great. He was one of the faculty above I mentioned that is really invested in our success. He seems very intelligent academically and pragmatically. Plus, he has a hypnotic voice, so there's that.
 
I assume this is the "linkage" SMP from temple. Sounds like it but I want to be sure. And of course the most important question for any SMP, what's your/incoming class size and % of students who got into Temple and/or US MD/DO?

It appears I may have been giving bad info to some students recently as I was under the impression (falsely perhaps) that the temple SMP class increased in size is therefore no longer a "linked" program. It's great news if that's not the case.

And of course, congrats on your success and getting into med school.
 
It is definitely still linked. And the most recent class is smaller in size. You may need to help me with terms however. We have a BCMS and an ACMS class--not sure about SMP. Special masters program?
Again, coming out of the program you will be going to Temple Medical School, you sign a contract with them at the outset of the program.
I do not know exact percentage from our year (that's not meant to be evasive--I just haven't heard from everyone) but it also won't be indicative of incoming classes because of the change in MCAT criteria.
All of that being said, this program is great, it is extraordinarily difficult, but great. I am exceptionally risk averse, and knowing what I know now I would've accepted faster to the program if I had to do it again 🙂
 
It is definitely still linked. And the most recent class is smaller in size. You may need to help me with terms however. We have a BCMS and an ACMS class--not sure about SMP. Special masters program?
Again, coming out of the program you will be going to Temple Medical School, you sign a contract with them at the outset of the program.
I do not know exact percentage from our year (that's not meant to be evasive--I just haven't heard from everyone) but it also won't be indicative of incoming classes because of the change in MCAT criteria.
All of that being said, this program is great, it is extraordinarily difficult, but great. I am exceptionally risk averse, and knowing what I know now I would've accepted faster to the program if I had to do it again 🙂

Great to hear! You're right. Temple is still on the level and has all the bells and whistles. My bad. SMP = special masters program. It's a general term for a grade booster masters program for med/dental applicants who screwed up their grades and already took the pre-reqs. Most here I think also define a true SMP as one where you take the same courses/exams as actual M1s.
 
OH. Got it. I think the closest to the SMP program you are talking about is the ACMS class. I do not know a lot about Temple's, I was in the BCMS class (which is for "career changers"). Thanks!
 
OH. Got it. I think the closest to the SMP program you are talking about is the ACMS class. I do not know a lot about Temple's, I was in the BCMS class (which is for "career changers"). Thanks!

this is really helpful information - thanks! can you share any details about the makeup of your class? additionally, what was your own background, stats, etc?
 
The make up of the class was fairly diverse as far as backgrounds go. My entrance criteria were OK, but I do think my work history made me stand out. I literally had 10 years (including undergrad) healthcare experience prior to the program. Unfortunately, I am not certain I would've made it into the "new" program. Because the MCAT is no longer a criteria I believe they have to rely more heavily upon traditional academic predictors of performance (SAT and GPA) because (I'm assuming) they wanted more assurance of high performance on the STEP. I completely understand why they're doing it, but it may cut out some applicants who could be great doctors but took awhile to get it together in college.
 
I love the Temple Medical School! I was actually a patient when I was a child. I'm a rising senior and am highly considering Temple for a post bacc program. What advice would you give for funding the program? Should I take a year off and work and save?
 
I love the Temple Medical School! I was actually a patient when I was a child. I'm a rising senior and am highly considering Temple for a post bacc program. What advice would you give for funding the program? Should I take a year off and work and save?

Post bacc loans are a bad breed bc you can't do GRAD Plus, you have to do private loans. I wouldn't put off a year, (a) no guarantees you'll get in--it is more competitive now than ever, and (b) get used to taking out loans if you are going to medical school, Temple is expensive even among medical schools. If there was anything to take a year off for, it would be to move to PA so you could get in-state tuition.
 
Post bacc loans are a bad breed bc you can't do GRAD Plus, you have to do private loans. I wouldn't put off a year, (a) no guarantees you'll get in--it is more competitive now than ever, and (b) get used to taking out loans if you are going to medical school, Temple is expensive even among medical schools. If there was anything to take a year off for, it would be to move to PA so you could get in-state tuition.

Thanks a lot for the information! I'm actually a PA resident and live about ~1 hour away! Did you consider Drexel when looking for post bacc programs? I was considering working and doing night classes for Drexel's post bacc program, however, it would be a longer route.
 
Thanks a lot for the information! I'm actually a PA resident and live about ~1 hour away! Did you consider Drexel when looking for post bacc programs? I was considering working and doing night classes for Drexel's post bacc program, however, it would be a longer route.

If you get into Temple, it's 100% the way to go.
 
Was the SAT minimum strict when you applied? Have you heard of anyone getting admitted with low SAT scores? It's a bit ridiculous how a test I took in high school is still haunting me.
 
Was the SAT minimum strict when you applied? Have you heard of anyone getting admitted with low SAT scores? It's a bit ridiculous how a test I took in high school is still haunting me.

Came here to ask the same thing. Website says they have a minimum of 1400/1600 SAT Verbal / Math, no less than 650 in each section. Seems really high. Is that a hard deadline? Will be heartbroken if my 1200 SAT that I took 8 years ago is keeping me from applying when I have a competitive MCAT.
 
I would call and talk to them, but I think standardized tests are going to be even more important in the new program. If you have something you took later like an LSAT, GMAT, or GRE that's high, I think they would probably consider that.

But at the end of the day, I really don't know anything about the new program--these are just my best guesses. If you have some ridiculous experience or something like that, I am sure that will be looked upon favorably.

Main advice is to contact them and apply early. They are really kind, and I think they will be straight with you.
 
I am applying to the ACMS program. I was also wondering about the SAT/ACT requirement...my ACT score was a 31, which appears to be just below the 32 requirement listed on the admissions website. Also, I heard that you cannot apply to other MD schools while in the ACMS program since it is assumed that you will matriculate to the Temple MD program. Does that also apply to DO schools? Thanks!
 
I tried to call but no one answered. I also emailed them my situation and they literally sent me a copy and paste excerpt of the Admissions front page, how their admission does holistic reviews. I'm not too sure if they answered my question. Does that mean our SAT scores are fine? Maybe their offices thought I didn't read the Admissions site? I'm a bit dumbfounded to see how they just copy and pasted from their website after I waited two days for a response.
 
Got the same copied statement that you did in response, so I guess I'll just have to apply and find out. I did ask directly if the 1400 SAT cutoff was a hard cutoff, so I'll interpret the holistic review statement as their indication that 1400 is not a hard cutoff. Which seems ridiculously high, by the way. It seems funny to me that a post-bacc (the idea of which is to help enhance academic records and give applicants a 'second chance') would be based off of something from my distant past. Can't imagine that they would immediately turn down an otherwise competitive applicant due to a non-exceptional SAT.
 
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