Temple University or Umdnj-njms???

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Well I thought I had it figured out. I had decided to go to Temple. Then NJMS offered me a sweet deal....Now what do I do?? 😕

Honestly, you need to make this decision for yourself. If the deal is THAT 'sweat' then go to NJMS, if it isn't then stick to Temple. Just pick one and don't look back

 

[beponychick]

Well I thought I had it figured out. I had decided to go to Temple. Then NJMS offered me a sweet deal....Now what do I do?? 😕

You obviously dont want to go to NJMS, so just dont go. There are plenty of people who would love to take your spot at that school. This is a personal decision and one that you ultimately have to make for yourself. You heard all of our opinions, and I really doubt there is anything left to be said.

 

[drguy22]

Well I thought I had it figured out. I had decided to go to Temple. Then NJMS offered me a sweet deal....Now what do I do?? 😕

ya it seems that you want to go to temple....then go to temple...dont make ur decision based on money alone. u prolly got 10K rite?

u dont want to regret ur decision later. There are a lot of people on a waiting list dying to get it.

 

[NJMSfsb-09]

I'm an NJMS student, and I just wanted to impress upon you how much the scandals are not affecting the students in any way . . . the residency matching this year was phenominal (we have multiple matches in each of the most competitive fields, as well as many IVYs and top tier hospitals, and an extremely high match rate). To me, that's what shows how little of an impact the politics are having. If that's not enough, just talk to students here. Everyone's happy. We all love it here, for its bonuses and for its quirks. If you don't think you'll be happy here, then that's one thing . . . but if it's only a matter of a name non-medical people have heard of, that's pretty weak.

 

[neutropenic]

but if it's only a matter of a name non-medical people have heard of, that's pretty weak.

It's the Aunt Millie factor. Aunt Millie is pleased to hear her nephew go to Harvard, but when her other nephew went to UCSF she said, oh well your cousin got into Harvard at least.

Personally think NJ Med is better, better matchlist (and cheaper for you!) though the DOC and University Hospital aren't so nice but then neither is North Philadelphia and TUMC.

 

[Gforce007]

😱 😎

 

[SkylineMD]

Problems at the SOM don't impact the NJMS school. Without you being more specific, its hard to tell how the problems have impacted you. If you are a former student, then you probably either graduated or have trouble with the academic side. If its the academic side then its rather unfortunate but your problem seems a little personal and doesn't seem to be impacted by the recent problems at UMDNJ (besides the fact that you feel the Dean hasn't helped you in your situation)

 

[Gforce007]

 

[SkylineMD]

GE - your post is quite vague and understandbly so considering there are many people from UMDNJ - NJMS that may recognize who you are so I can see why you want to maintain a level of ambiguity. However, it seems the administration used policy against you and unfortunately it did not work in your favor. I have heard of many instances in various medical schools where some policies are unfair and don't make sense. The sad thing is that the school can always refer to the written policy and say "well its in writing so its just about law" and its tough to fight. This doesn't just occur at any one institution but rather across the board. There is probably not a single medical school out there that doesn't have at least one disgruntled student. Not to say that I love my medical school because I see it for what it is - an institution that i am paying so that I can go through THEIR set curriculum and come out with a degree. It's really unfortunate that the school couldn't be more accommodating and sometimes unwielding. When in doubt, if you can somehow bring the legals involved, they sometimes back off --- thats the only time an institution will back down from what they realize is unfair policy (thats why they put so many things in writing - to cover their butts). I am sincerely sorry for what they might have done to you but just stick to your guns and hopefully things will work out.

So my main point from all of this is that no matter what students tell you, no matter how much people "love" their school, there are always problems with the administration and if you can't see it, then you're too blind or naive (this goes for ALL schools)

 

[drguy22]

Actually academically I was if not atop my class academically, I was certainly in top 3 %.

Its just my opinion misdeeds filter down directly or indirected, in plain site or very subtle and with time does one connect the dots.

I am just saying when someone makes unethical decisions, try to manipulate the system for ones self enrichment it would not be a stretch to be way weary of decisions made on a student level.

I was referred to the student handbook even though admin after admin offical told me otherwise. If fact after reading the section of handbook myself there was a provision in thre that could have been leveraged to solve my issue. One would have expected for the money paid that admin would lay the correct roadmap and direct students in the right direction.

I followed the advise of the admin until it was escalated and a total 180 was made regarding my situation.

Its a fact corruption just take energy away from a schools primary mission of education students, producing doctors and caring for community.

Just my opinion

I am a student MD. But Being from Jeresy NJMS has alway been a second home to me and would like to have completed my studies there. But now I am not as quick to mention UMDNJ b/c the response I always get is corruption/scandel

Sad what power and money can do to people

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3729444#post3729444


i belive this is ur story? doesnt seem much to do with the issues at UMDNJ..seems like u had ur own issues.

 

[drguy22]

Actually academically I was if not atop my class academically, I was certainly in top 3 %.

Its just my opinion misdeeds filter down directly or indirected, in plain site or very subtle and with time does one connect the dots.

I am just saying when someone makes unethical decisions, try to manipulate the system for ones self enrichment it would not be a stretch to be way weary of decisions made on a student level.

I was referred to the student handbook even though admin after admin offical told me otherwise. If fact after reading the section of handbook myself there was a provision in thre that could have been leveraged to solve my issue. One would have expected for the money paid that admin would lay the correct roadmap and direct students in the right direction.

I followed the advise of the admin until it was escalated and a total 180 was made regarding my situation.

Its a fact corruption just take energy away from a schools primary mission of education students, producing doctors and caring for community.

Just my opinion

I am a student MD. But Being from Jeresy NJMS has alway been a second home to me and would like to have completed my studies there. But now I am not as quick to mention UMDNJ b/c the response I always get is corruption/scandel

Sad what power and money can do to people

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3729444#post3729444


i believe this is ur story? doesnt seem much to do with the issues at UMDNJ..seems like u had ur own issues.

 

[SkylineMD]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3729444#post3729444


i believe this is ur story? doesnt seem much to do with the issues at UMDNJ..seems like u had ur own issues.

i think he's more talking about the unfair policies of the school. Reading what he wrote in the thread you linked to, I can agree that under such circumstances, the school should have at least given him some leeway to allow him to continue his studies. However, schools love to cling to what I believe can be somewhat ******ed policies and if they have it in writing, you can't fight it. Deans are allowed to make final decisions on some policies and even overturn a decision made prior to the problem reaching him and some deans may pretend to care about their students but its really a facade that many students fall for.

 

[drguy22]

i think he's more talking about the unfair policies of the school. Reading what he wrote in the thread you linked to, I can agree that under such circumstances, the school should have at least given him some leeway to allow him to continue his studies. However, schools love to cling to what I believe can be somewhat ******ed policies and if they have it in writing, you can't fight it. Deans are allowed to make final decisions on some policies and even overturn a decision made prior to the problem reaching him and some deans may pretend to care about their students but its really a facade that many students fall for.

from what it seems...he never went to NJMS...he went to SOM. In any case, it is true they should have let him continue...however, after a certain period of time, u just have to take it over again. Like for example, if there was a curriculum change, ect ect. I dont think we know how long he was out for as well...

 

[medhacker]

from what it seems...he never went to NJMS...he went to SOM. In any case, it is true they should have let him continue...however, after a certain period of time, u just have to take it over again. Like for example, if there was a curriculum change, ect ect. I dont think we know how long he was out for as well...

He clearly states that there was a legal provision on the student handbook he was not advised of. As a consequence, he was told he could not extend his leave of absence (henceforth LOA) and facing a curriculum change plus expiration of his allowed LOA, he was told SOL.

He has all the right to feel that the current issues within the school prevented a more adequate dedication to his case. After all, according to his narration, his situation could have been remediated had the people involved only advised him that he could in fact have extended his LOA.'


This is obvious administrative malpractice - he has all the right to question whether this malpractice was brought about by the current issues facing SOM leaders.

 

[Gforce007]

Sorry I had to edit my posts. Been advise of action to be taken and dont need info floating aroad on public forum.

I am glad I kept all the correspondence over the years

Thanks

 

[kauai]

It seems that you had a terrible personal situation and I applaud you doing the right thing by your family. The administration should have been more sympathetic to your extenuating circumstances. Could you please clarify whether you were a student at NJMS or the SOM --as there seems to be some confusion in this thread about which school you were attending. Thanks.