Ten - Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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I will probably be vetoing Wasp as a wagon fwiw

Oh?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Do you think SAR is a hit over genny?

Yes, I think so.

I would like to analyze who I could make fit in the packs with them, but I think it's getting a little messy because we're starting to see some distancing today because they know if we get another hit today it's gonna be hard for them to come back from that.

So, uh, @Zenge142 if I could get that spreadsheet before I run out of posts that would be nice.

explain clearly

I would be interested in more discussion of QQ (maybe not right this second - I do think we need to figure out the genny/SAR/clem/zenge/wasp siutation first). Her reasoning for voting rae was a little odd

I suspect the thought is that if @Mrs Queequeg doesn't hit the post minimum, the "something bad" will resolve the slot

 

[samac]

explain clearly

They’re not anywhere close to post minimums

 

[toberto]

actually i just shut up and listen

unyeet wasp
yeet genny

 

[samac]

Who is KD and if Im not missremebering there was a KC too

I’m calling you KC mom

 

[samac]

I’m calling you KC mom

…. lol not mom.

 

[WildZoo]

Anyone who takes me seriously when I say I village read someone for liking the US women’s hockey team maybe should practice more before champs.

spicy!genny

 

[samac]

I will probably be vetoing Wasp as a wagon fwiw

I know you mentioned some unpairing thoughts earlier right?

 

[fruitsalad]

They’re not anywhere close to post minimums

queeqy had like 20+ posts last night?

 

[GoSpursGo]

They’re not anywhere close to post minimums

Actually I surprised myself, they have already hit the minimum for today with a slew of posts overnight

 

[Santygrass]

explain in a great amount of detail

I think is very likely Wasp is a slot wolves are playing around and putting in board because its just easy to misyeet. Like except ... Clem? (Or toby who I am townbloccing) I dont see no one giving Wasp even a soft defense. Thread feels very comfy with Wasp as bottom PoE, im a way that just speaks to me that wolves dont care, and is probably a villa which is likely going to be shrugyeeted.

I dont think there is really a damning argument as for why Wasp is being suspected this strongly, other than Wasp lack of defense and overall post. Like, the Wasp read on kitz I'd argue is most likely unpairing than pairing wowee. Also Wasp and Sar are unpaired f.e., and I would take a Sar yeet before a Wasp yeet 10 times out of ten, which is what is motivating me to just remove Wasp out of the chopping block for today

 

[WildZoo]

Oh yeah there was the thing of Wasp having kitz as her only village read
True that does seem...odd for packmates. Though it's also overall an odd read. Hrm.

 

[fruitsalad]

unyeet Clems
yeet SAR

@Animal Midwife

 

[samac]

I think is very likely Wasp is a slot wolves are playing around and putting in board because its just easy to misyeet. Like except ... Clem? (Or toby who I am townbloccing) I dont see no one giving Wasp even a soft defense. Thread feels very comfy with Wasp as bottom PoE, im a way that just speaks to me that wolves dont care, and is probably a villa which is likely going to be shrugyeeted.

I dont think there is really a damning argument as for why Wasp is being suspected this strongly, other than Wasp lack of defense and overall post. Like, the Wasp read on kitz I'd argue is most likely unpairing than pairing wowee. Also Wasp and Sar are unpaired f.e., and I would take a Sar yeet before a Wasp yeet 10 times out of ten, which is what is motivating me to just remove Wasp out of the chopping block for today

Unyeet wasp
Yeet Clem

 

[Zenge142]

Hmmm yes the rules mmmyes Spurs said he made the rules here and it seems it was true. As if there werent more reasons on why Santy wasn't a good yeet? As if the kitz buss hadnt started earlier with MY VOTE. Idk Zenges reasoning is bad here/? Like he doesn't wanna see the full picture

I feel like there's something that you're fundamentally misunderstanding about this conversation, because what you're saying is completely nonsensical based on the conversation that was taking place.

 

[samac]

queeqy had like 20+ posts last night?

Shut you’re right

 

[WildZoo]

unyeet Wasp yeet Clem

 

[Zenge142]

So, uh, @Zenge142 if I could get that spreadsheet before I run out of posts that would be nice.

I'm at work! and several pages behind.
I'll direct you to this post:

This is not a drive through. My reads spreadsheets are not fried chicken.

 

[fruitsalad]

revised POE: SAR, Clems, queeqy, genny

 

[samac]

unyeet Wasp yeet Clem

I FEEL SHEEPED

 

[toberto]

I don't think it's actually that hard to figure out if you're the kind of person who wants to know but doesn't want to ask

Like I cannot emphasize enough how "figuring out someone's very public nickname without asking" being punished with a mafia read is kind of ostracizing and bad for the community wrt welcoming new players in

Regardless of their alignment, but frankly I really don't think it's alignment indicative (ai)

this is towny

 

[Santygrass]

Also for Wasp I am taking into account that they come from a community that plays differently, in their words I remember that most of them just take D1 for the giggles and not really solve, so I kinda also expect a bit of culture difference motivating some reads of 'this feels different and could be scum' (moreso related to their general approach or maybe not posting as much as others) which I feel like is better to maybe let them play more and see how we feel rather than rushing into a vote. Even if Wasp is a wolf they have 2 packmates we can prioritize first, and I get the feeling that is more likely that Wasp is village and probably spewed so by other wolves just salivating at their misyeet who seems close.

Like, if I am a wolf rn and Wasp is a villager, I do feel like Wasp seems pretty much the easy to get and very much necessary misyeet that town needs to do so I win. It doesnt matter if its today or next day, Wasp would be a yeet that is there to reach.
And my feeling of threadstate is exactly thats whats happening in regards to how Wasp is being treated without anyone shielding or like even trying to push more strongly in lther direction

 

[WildZoo]

I FEEL SHEEPED

Good 😈

 

[GoSpursGo]

I'm at work! and several pages behind.
I'll direct you to this post:

That's fine, I was going for a burger and fries

 

[Kcalb]

***yeet santy***

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @supershorty

He is playing a diferent game I find it quite hillarious

If Santy is a wolf here he is the most dick wolf to ever wolf since there is no way the kitz vote happens without him bringing her up as an option, very last minute, when he easily could have kept asking people to vote for Clem or continued with SAR

I agree Santy could do this but I'll vouch on not yeeting him today

Also, out of all the votes on Kitz, Kcalb is for sure the most bus-shaped one. Is not something I would dig further in rn, but is very likely I will not be alive when it comes the time to probably discuss that so Im leaving this here for possible help for the future

I stated I was down to a Kitz yeet before to beans, so yeah(? Have no reason to do it if I knew kitz was my packmate

 

[toberto]

I mean I would've killed any claim immediately d1, it's usually correct to do so, particularly when it's a generic claim

The only mitigating factor here is kitz and it's frankly the only reason I'm bothering to consider anything else

this is an anti town opinion that im not sure wolf comes out with

 

[WildZoo]

Also for Wasp I am taking into account that they come from a community that plays differently, in their words I remember that most of them just take D1 for the giggles and not really solve, so I kinda also expect a bit of culture difference motivating some reads of 'this feels different and could be scum' (moreso related to their general approach or maybe not posting as much as others) which I feel like is better to maybe let them play more and see how we feel rather than rushing into a vote. Even if Wasp is a wolf they have 2 packmates we can prioritize first, and I get the feeling that is more likely that Wasp is village and probably spewed so by other wolves just salivating at their misyeet who seems close.

Like, if I am a wolf rn and Wasp is a villager, I do feel like Wasp seems pretty much the easy to get and very much necessary misyeet that town needs to do so I win. It doesnt matter if its today or next day, Wasp would be a yeet that is there to reach.
And my feeling of threadstate is exactly thats whats happening in regards to how Wasp is being treated without anyone shielding or like even trying to push more strongly in lther direction

Whomst among the Wasp voters are you saying is wolfy though? Because this was the maximum point of the wagon.

Wasp (5) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 57, Spurs 62, kcalb 17

And if your suspects are still Clem and SAR they were pointedly NOT on that vote at any point that I saw.

 

[Santygrass]

Whomst among the Wasp voters are you saying is wolfy though? Because this was the maximum point of the wagon.

Its not just the voters. Is the fact that even in between the people voting outside of it, no one does *not* have Wasp in the poe

 

[toberto]

Clem's day 1 is useless nothingburger passive spectating posts but he does have some day 2 posts I give cred and I've not seen anyone look to really re-evaluate him after day 1

 

[toberto]

Someone tell me why Clem is sus today

 

[Santygrass]

And Wasp have been voted by multiple people and yada yada, like just feels a slot that is 'essy to attack' kinda deal, and the lack of shielding and amount to attacks make it more likely is a villa is my thought process.

I very well could be wrong and Wasp be wolf, dont take this reasoning as clearing. But imo I think should be strong enough for not going to yeet Wasp today

 

[WildZoo]

Wasp is the apoptosis of this game

 

[Santygrass]

Someone tell me why Clem is sus today

Kitz posts

 

[toberto]

And Wasp have been voted by multiple people and yada yada, like just feels a slot that is 'essy to attack' kinda deal, and the lack of shielding and amount to attacks make it more likely is a villa is my thought process.

I very well could be wrong and Wasp be wolf, dont take this reasoning as clearing. But imo I think should be strong enough for not going to yeet Wasp today

ok i may have misunderstood the initial veto reasons

 

[Kcalb]

You sound so reasonable dubZ...

I took like a whole hour off, so I assume I'm fine on post count. But I do think it's important that we don't just reflexively clear Santy. I don't have anyone in my hard town lock core other than @fruitsalad

Btw wasnt beans the one who starte the kitz push way before that? I understand fruits is really town but kinda dont see the same treatment for beans idk

 

[toberto]

What has Clem done to earn an actual vote from you? I feel like I haven’t seen much of him so far?

@Santygrass where is the Clem wagon???

Ty moon for the updated votes. Just earned you some village cred Unyeet moon @Animal Midwife @kaydubs @supershorty

We are all…very spread. I’m getting war flashbacks

Santy has been a bit pushy for my nerves so I’m going to hop on that wagon though I was ruminating on Clem while swimming as well yeet santy @Animal Midwife @kaydubs @supershorty

Apparently champs is the stakes I needed to unlock kitz effort mode why am I sitting in the parking lot typing lmao

these are Kitz Clem posts?

does newbie wolf Kitz defend partner so obv like that?

 

[Santygrass]

Also I might have a very dumb reason to think genny is a wolf. But at the same time feels like a strong one that gives me more confidence idk what to do I will look so silly if genny is town

 

[genny]

Also I might have a very dumb reason to think genny is a wolf. But at the same time feels like a strong one that gives me more confidence idk what to do I will look so silly if genny is town

Get your clown suit ready

 

[Santygrass]

these are Kitz Clem posts?

does newbie wolf Kitz defend partner so obv like that?

Also the fact that the moon vote broke the moon-clem tie happening before.

Its like a very surface connection but also I kinda see it ngl (it couples with the fact that with how EoD played out I feel like there is likely a wolf between SAR-Clem)

 

[GoSpursGo]

I also likely need to re-evaluate my town read on @_rae_ . I've let her skate by for a long time based on initial vibes, and while she might just be busy she's also probably compatible with a lot of packs.

 

[_rae_]

I also likely need to re-evaluate my town read on @_rae_ . I've let her skate by for a long time based on initial vibes, and while she might just be busy she's also probably compatible with a lot of packs.

I just speed read the SIX PAGES you guys have made. It’s wolfy, but I got nothing. I can see the sus of Genny, I don’t think I agree with the sus on SAR, I’ve said I usually read Clem wrong and I’ve been feeling village Clem vibes which might mean wolf. I’ve spent many a game in Bean’s cozy, renovated, amenity full pockets so I could also argue that could be a point to look at (though if it’s true she lead the Kitz push I’m less interested).

This is day two of this hospital being open and it’s been chaos. I will not get back tonight to do much real time or discussion.

I’m tempted to vote sleep because of it but that also feels wrong.

 

[Kcalb]

I can finally go to sleep in peace thanks

Anyways I'm between Wasp / Clem / SAR / Dubz

Atm, will move on my tunneling cuz I can't play otherwise

Read until here and my POE hasnt moved

Maybe Genny went lower since Im trying to not let my bias guide me BUT oh wel wouldnt yeet her before my poe hmmm yes

 

[Kcalb]

I’m calling you KC mom

D-daughter???

Sorry I'm to small for.parenting

 

[GoSpursGo]

I just speed read the SIX PAGES you guys have made. It’s wolfy, but I got nothing. I can see the sus of Genny, I don’t think I agree with the sus on SAR, I’ve said I usually read Clem wrong and I’ve been feeling village Clem vibes which might mean wolf. I’ve spent many a game in Bean’s cozy, renovated, amenity full pockets so I could also argue that could be a point to look at (though if it’s true she lead the Kitz push I’m less interested).

This is day two of this hospital being open and it’s been chaos. I will not get back tonight to do much real time or discussion.

I’m tempted to vote sleep because of it but that also feels wrong.

rae I like you, but this was quite a reaction to me gently suggesting that I may need to re-evaluate my read.

You've ruled out genny, SAR, and Clem, which I think are the 3 leading votes. So where would you suggest we go today? The answer ain't sleep.

 

[GoSpursGo]

rae I like you, but this was quite a reaction to me gently suggesting that I may need to re-evaluate my read.

You've ruled out genny, SAR, and Clem, which I think are the 3 leading votes. So where would you suggest we go today? The answer ain't sleep.

ope, I mis-read, you didn't rule out genny.

I would hard veto beans. There is a world where she is scum and doing a brilliant job of misdirection, but I don't think she's the vote today.

 

[_rae_]

rae I like you, but this was quite a reaction to me gently suggesting that I may need to re-evaluate my read.

You've ruled out genny, SAR, and Clem, which I think are the 3 leading votes. So where would you suggest we go today? The answer ain't sleep.

Sorry, this wasn’t directed ALL at you I just saw the tag and was like “cool I got pinged I’ll use this to keep my place!” And then it turned up being the last message lol

 

[samac]

this is an anti town opinion that im not sure wolf comes out with

This is very much just clem

 

[samac]

It’s not just the voters. Is the fact that even in between the people voting outside of it, no one does *not* have Wasp in the poe

At what point does the beep beep gotta happen

 

[GoSpursGo]

This is half baked, and I keep trying to figure out how to construct theoretical packs and can't get there. Maybe if I show what I'm thinking others can work on this more. But I think we may be getting to the point where we start thinking about potential packs rather than just isolated sus-balls, and strategically vote for someone that will help yield information even if they flip village.

How about:

Zenge/SAR
-Zenge literally never mentioned kitz until the last 15 minutes of D1, and only mentioned SAR 4 times in terms of how you couldn't possibly have a read on her based on content on D1
-counterpoint: Zenge pointed out SAR's reasoning on her Santy vote

OR

genny/Clem
-genny laughed at my Clem vote
-Clem evaded the SAR/genny question
-counterpoint: genny has Clem in POE right now

Then dubZ/Wasp/QQ, maybe rae, are probably compatible with either pack (need to verify)

This is hard, because the POE are clearly trying to distance right now. But I don't think any of the main 4 did anything unpairing from kitz

 

[samac]

Btw wasnt beans the one who starte the kitz push way before that? I understand fruits is really town but kinda dont see the same treatment for beans idk

Fruit has a never bus meta. He may cash in those chips some day, but I don’t think he would have on day 1.