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[Kcalb]

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I just speed read the SIX PAGES you guys have made. It’s wolfy, but I got nothing. I can see the sus of Genny, I don’t think I agree with the sus on SAR, I’ve said I usually read Clem wrong and I’ve been feeling village Clem vibes which might mean wolf. I’ve spent many a game in Bean’s cozy, renovated, amenity full pockets so I could also argue that could be a point to look at (though if it’s true she lead the Kitz push I’m less interested).

This is day two of this hospital being open and it’s been chaos. I will not get back tonight to do much real time or discussion.

I’m tempted to vote sleep because of it but that also feels wrong.

Acknowledging is wolfy, doesn't make it less wolfy

I'm tired

 

[samac]

I also likely need to re-evaluate my town read on @_rae_ . I've let her skate by for a long time based on initial vibes, and while she might just be busy she's also probably compatible with a lot of packs.

She hasn’t done anything clearing imo.
If I have time this afternoon I’d like to interaction check folks with kitz. But I may not. I very much want a margarita when I’m freed of my 12 day straight call at 5pm.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Fruit has a never bus meta. He may cash in those chips some day, but I don’t think he would have on day 1.

Agree, and to expound, I think that KC and beans could have voted on kitz for distancing purposes not expecting that wagon would really build up and then wound up stuck there. fruit jumping on as a 3rd would be clearly putting them on the bus

 

[Kcalb]

This is half baked, and I keep trying to figure out how to construct theoretical packs and can't get there. Maybe if I show what I'm thinking others can work on this more. But I think we may be getting to the point where we start thinking about potential packs rather than just isolated sus-balls, and strategically vote for someone that will help yield information even if they flip village.

How about:

Zenge/SAR
-Zenge literally never mentioned kitz until the last 15 minutes of D1, and only mentioned SAR 4 times in terms of how you couldn't possibly have a read on her based on content on D1
-counterpoint: Zenge pointed out SAR's reasoning on her Santy vote

OR

genny/Clem
-genny laughed at my Clem vote
-Clem evaded the SAR/genny question
-counterpoint: genny has Clem in POE right now

Then dubZ/Wasp/QQ, maybe rae, are probably compatible with either pack (need to verify)

This is hard, because the POE are clearly trying to distance right now. But I don't think any of the main 4 did anything unpairing from kitz

Im not good with pairings aaaaaaaaa

Do you think it couldn't be a SAR/Clem for example?

 

[Kcalb]

Agree, and to expound, I think that KC and beans could have voted on kitz for distancing purposes not expecting that wagon would really build up and then wound up stuck there. fruit jumping on as a 3rd would be clearly putting them on the bus

It's like kind of really weird to do that unprovoked and dont move both votes to the initial SAR/Clem bus Santy made

I can see it but having a hard time believing beans is not townie

 

[WildZoo]

What if samac woof

 

[Kcalb]

What if samac woof

I'll cry

 

[Zenge142]

What if samac woof

Anything's possible. What if she got converted D2?

 

[WildZoo]

Anything's possible. What if she got converted D2?

Zenge pls, that is not in fact possible

 

[Kcalb]

Did anyone analyzed moon's death yet? Is kinda weird having such strong towns and the village pr. Would like to know some takes(?

 

[genny]

What if samac woof

No. Yeet the POE first.

 

[genny]

Did anyone analyzed moon's death yet? Is kinda weird having such strong towns and the village pr. Would like to know some takes(?

Kitz was voting moon, went after moon fairly hard in a way that I find clearing for moon

 

[Zenge142]

Zenge pls, that is not in fact possible

Anythings possible.

What if season 13 is a secret bastard game set up?

ANYTHINGS possible!!!

 

[WildZoo]

Did anyone analyzed moon's death yet? Is kinda weird having such strong towns and the village pr. Would like to know some takes(?

I think santy brought up her reads list previously but here tis again

Okay, just for you 😀

Town

Santy
Spurs
Toby (toberto)
Zenge

Lean town

fruit
genny
Kcalb
samac

beans

Null

Clem
Dubz
Mrs QQ (mrsqueequeeg)
rae
Wasp

Lean scum

kitz
SAR

 

[WildZoo]

Anythings possible.

What if season 13 is a secret bastard game set up?

ANYTHINGS possible!!!

You're being silly while I was having a serious paranoia!

 

[WildZoo]

No. Yeet the POE first.

What hath removed samac from the POE?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Im not good with pairings aaaaaaaaa

Do you think it couldn't be a SAR/Clem for example?

This is what I'm struggling with, because there is a counterpoint to almost every possible pairing. Almost nobody in the POE is absolutely unpaired

However, to your specific example SAR through out a quick vote on Clem this cycle and has stayed there, while Clem is clearly in danger. I think bussing would be an incredibly risky strategy right now that wouldn't clear SAR anyways, so I think it is highly unlikely.

It's like kind of really weird to do that unprovoked and dont move both votes to the initial SAR/Clem bus Santy made

I can see it but having a hard time believing beans is not townie

You and I are saying the same thing--I have beans firmly in my town pile, I'm just saying it's not the complete lock never rescind that fruit is

What if samac woof

Also certainly conceivable, in which case I can only imagine her cackle in wolf chat when I declared less than an hour into the game that she was village

 

[GoSpursGo]

What hath removed samac from the POE?

Probably me and KC loudly and continuously reading her towny for tone.

@samac did notably have almost nothing to say about kitz on day 1 though

 

[WildZoo]

Kitz was voting moon, went after moon fairly hard in a way that I find clearing for moon

Are you explaining your NK choice, genny? 😛

 

[WildZoo]

Probably me and KC loudly and continuously reading her towny for tone.

@samac did notably have almost nothing to say about kitz on day 1 though

One cannot read samac on tone any more than one can read me on tone

 

[WildZoo]

Though that one post about her trying to analyze the setups to find a way to mechnically solve and then realizing it wasn't going to work was indeed very on v!samac brand

 

[Kcalb]

I think Zenge is like... Not locktown level, but very very towny

Why, the saltyness?

 

[Zenge142]

Did anyone analyzed moon's death yet? Is kinda weird having such strong towns and the village pr. Would like to know some takes(?

I did, and I didn't find it very interesting.

Moon really only pushed SAR and Kitz with any significance. Can't say "moon died because SAR was scared of moon" or anything.

Santy was the only one who really championed a Pro-Moon position, and very mildly you. Everyone else expressed mild opinions of moon or had no real commentary.

At the end of the day Wolves wouldn't target Santy if there's a risk of Santy getting doctored or something. So the alternative is to pick someone else N1 and try to kill Santy N2. Not really a surprise. Nothing in the thread really implies that moon was killed for a specific read or anything.

 

[genny]

Are you explaining your NK choice, genny? 😛

I would have mercy killed you

 

[GoSpursGo]

@samac did notably have almost nothing to say about kitz on day 1 though

But also this whole thing of analyzing kitz interactions on D1 mostly doesn't work. It looks like I said basically nothing about kitz other than a soft v read, until the avalanche of kitz votes at the end.

I suspect there are a lot of people who had nothing to say about kitz. Which unfortunately was part of my case for some of the people in my POE

Though that one post about her trying to analyze the setups to find a way to mechnically solve and then realizing it wasn't going to work was indeed very on v!samac brand

The post about asking her husband if they would re-rand for an obvious rojo also was v-coded

Like, there's just a lot of stuff that FEELS village-y. And I'd need to have a couple of misyeets in a row before I really re-analyzed her slot.

 

[Kcalb]

Why is genny on the "not yeeting list"?

Is Samac supposed to be there twice?

Why is Santy only a "prefer" not to?

Cuz my brain liked her preassure against you

Put samac twice in case I missed her (it obv it was a mistake what is this question)

Will never giv Santy a full clear since I know his wolf capabilities (? Now Ive seen a couple of things I also liked about him, but yeah he is not entering my town core EVER AGAIN

 

[Zenge142]

Why, the saltyness?

I still think you're misunderstanding this situation.

I was salty that after claiming to have a PR you and Spurs were still voting for me, because according to santy, claiming to have a PR automatically makes you unyeetable because it's self resolving.

That's not the same as being salty that we didn't kill Santy. I'm not salty that we didn't kill Santy.

Do you understand this conversation better?

 

[genny]

What hath removed samac from the POE?

Her general samacness and Kitz vote in my opinion

 

[Zenge142]

it obv it was a mistake what is this question

There's a possibility that you meant to put someone else name.

Like it wasn't just that samac was on there twice, whoops. But maybe you meant to have Samac#2 be someone else's name.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR (2) - Spurs 112, fruit 42
genny (4) - Santy 70, beans 20, Zenge 94, Toby 48
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - SAR 15, samac 101, Dubz 93
Wasp (1) - kcalb 34
Santy () -
rae () -

11/15
yeet closed in ~4 hours

 

[WildZoo]

I would have mercy killed you

I'm not sure I believe this but I do appreciate the sentiment 😍

 

[genny]

Wow that wasp wagon really evaporated. But mine has staying power. 💪

 

[genny]

Wow that wasp wagon really evaporated. But mine has staying power. 💪

@Santygrass

 

[Santygrass]

@Santygrass

I still got it in me yippee

 

[Santygrass]

@genny Imagine you have a dayvig to use RIGHT MEOW . Who do you shoot to try to clear yourself?

 

[Kcalb]

You think Dubz is going to flip wolf?

She is my opportunistic wolf

Unyeet Wasp

Yeet SAR

The wagon was once again dissambled, Im 4 pages behind but the amount of times SAR gets a wagon just to be dispersed later is really weird to me

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR (2) - Spurs 112, fruit 42
genny (4) - Santy 70, beans 20, Zenge 94, Toby 48
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - SAR 15, samac 101, Dubz 93
Wasp (1) - kcalb 34
Santy () -
rae () -

11/15
yeet closed in ~4 hours

 

[GoSpursGo]

So I would like to ask everyone to comment specifically on a binary genny/SAR choice.

I'm still interested in peoples' take on this.

I'm, um, down to only 10 posts. So I will by necessity be getting quiet. But I want to be clear--I kind of like voting for one of these two today, and between the two I would prefer SAR. If we vote today for genny and she flips village, I would look at SAR and Zenge next; if we flip SAR village, then I'd look at Clem and genny next.

I don't feel like we get a ton of direction with a Clem or Wasp flip.

 

[Kcalb]

I still think you're misunderstanding this situation.

I was salty that after claiming to have a PR you and Spurs were still voting for me, because according to santy, claiming to have a PR automatically makes you unyeetable because it's self resolving.

That's not the same as being salty that we didn't kill Santy. I'm not salty that we didn't kill Santy.

Do you understand this conversation better?

I understand the argument but still is weird that you are ignoring the big picture, the timing of Santy's claim and why clearly your and his claim arent equal. I thought you were just mocking him and his play, but now that I see you truly believe it. It's just worse lol.

 

[Zenge142]

I would look at SAR and Zenge next; if we flip SAR village

How does SAR being village make me a wolf?

Also you can't vote for me. I'm self resolving now.

 

[GoSpursGo]

I'm still interested in peoples' take on this.

I guess I have 7 peoples' takes based on their votes.

Regardless, for my part I'm reading genny as more spicy, which I associate with her being town. SAR's opening to the game felt a lot like the beginning of her last scum game, and her treatment of kitz was also very similar. So I don't anticipate changing my vote going forward, absent some crazy revelation

Ope 9 more posts.

 

[Kcalb]

I’m giving homework.
From the following people I’d like your top 3 village and top 3 POE with a one liner on why.

7. @WildZoo
9. @SARdoghandler
11. @_rae_
12. @mrsqueequeg
14. @genny
15. @The Wasp

Botom Sar / Dubz / wasp
Top Genny? rae? Mrs quee

I still haven't seen the wolf in genny but Im not up to date yet

 

[GoSpursGo]

How does SAR being village make me a wolf?

Also you can't vote for me. I'm self resolving now.

Re-read what I said. If SAR flips village, go after genny and Clem next.

You succeeded in taking me down to 8 posts

 

[Zenge142]

Re-read what I said. If SAR flips village, go after genny and Clem next.

You succeeded in taking me down to 8 posts

Post capping is a thrilling experience tbh

 

[Santygrass]

Why, the saltyness?

Did you look at the chart? Pls. I was townreadimg him on a tonal level at SoD because he was both being /stubborn/ about some stuff but also clearly relooking at stuffs and doing his own stuff. Like idk how to explain it now Im on mobile but he had that solving fire in him and it shows. I feel that we are kinda clicking too.
And if that wasnt enough you have the PR claim so yeah Zenge is villa wowee

 

[Santygrass]

Botom Sar / Dubz / wasp
Top Genny? rae? Mrs quee

I still haven't seen the wolf in genny but Im not up to date yet

Okay this feels towny LMAO

 

[Kcalb]

Botom Sar / Dubz / wasp
Top Genny? rae? Mrs quee

I still haven't seen the wolf in genny but Im not up to date yet

Oh wait my one liner

Sar: Sar (?) Santy's voteback, attitutee and her dissapearing wagons. And also her Santy's clear

Wasp: Wagon disssapeared also )?) with out their intervention

Dubz: is already in my PoE

Genny: Liked the Zenge pressure cuz she kinda read my mind,
Rae: Saw her townie yesterday and that left her a neutral today since I haven't seen the same vibe now
Mrs quee: She seems lost? I don't have a read on her tbh

 

[genny]

I still got it in me yippee

The point was that if you applied the logic you used for wasp’s wagon to my vote, you shouldn’t be voting me

 

[genny]

@genny Imagine you have a dayvig to use RIGHT MEOW . Who do you shoot to try to clear yourself?

Clem is the runner-up? I’d shoot Clem

 

[Kcalb]

Popped on quick but this is not going to happen until the next day cycle, if I'm alive.

My surgery just took way longer than it should have with an absolute **** ton of complications with anesthesia and I have appointments now until after the cycle closes. Not an excuse, just a statement that I'm not going to be able to be on thread today.

I've already said, if I need to be the misyeet then so be it. I am a vanillager. If I get any spare time between appointments I'll try to pop in but it may not be likely. If anyone has specific questions that do not require as much time as this particular homework, I can try to answer what I can

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah I hate thiiiis

(GL with everything uwu)

 

[Santygrass]

The point was that if you applied the logic you used for wasp’s wagon to my vote, you shouldn’t be voting me

You are a wagon because I've been shouting your name repeatedly though. And even then you are not like a consensus poe in the same degree Wasp was. Like everyone was giving a list of 2 or 3 names to vote, and yeah you were in some after my push and are the lead wagon, but more than a few people preferred to focus on the other poe slots to name . I noted that Wasp was the constant in everyone which is why I veto'd them in specific