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[Kcalb]

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What a family tree you guys got here. I wanna be the stray cat

 

[GoSpursGo]

Well dammit. I lost my Wordle streak 8 days from topping my 230 day record.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Sigh.

How about yeet @The Wasp

 

[supershorty]

What a family tree you guys got here. I wanna be the stray cat

I'll adopt you. You're funny.

 

[Kcalb]

They hate me because I'm right

Im starting to.see you charm, keep.goimg

So, I was inspired by SAR's work in snack wars and started an unpairing spreadsheet at the beginning of the game. Here's how it looks right now (red = likely unpaired):
View attachment 415745

No clue how to.read this is the first time I see it, could you help me?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR () -
genny () -
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - Santy 38, SAR 14, Zenge 58
Wasp (4) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 42, Spurs
Santy (1) - Clem 36
rae () -

9/15
Leading: @The Wasp
yeet closed in ~18.5h hours

Ope I'm running low on posts it seems

 

[Zenge142]

I'll adopt you. You're funny.

GO TO BED

 

[supershorty]

GO TO BED

IM TRYING MY BRAIN IS HOLDING ME HOSTAGE

 

[Kcalb]

Sigh.

How about yeet @The Wasp

Yeet The Wasp

We can go back to the Zenge situation after I cool off (express bussing on eod yesyes)

 

[WildZoo]

Oho! SAR is on the Menu? 👀 is the soul read telling you things?

No, that's just from reading the thread. The soul read is dead.

The way she treated kitz this game was pretty similar to how she treated kitz when they were wolfing together previously. And there were a couple of her posts that I responded to earlier that made me raise an eyebrow about her approach to me.

I do still have to go back and reread the exchange with Santy and there's some stuff that gives me pause that I've already mentioned, but I won't be shielding her today.

Admittedly it's very hard for me to vote for her so I'll likely end up on Clem, or I might stay on Wasp (though I'm mostly here for the tie).

 

[Kcalb]

I'll adopt you. You're funny.

Yoooooo

Miau

 

[GoSpursGo]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR () -
genny () -
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - Santy 38, SAR 14, Zenge 58
Wasp (5) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 42, Spurs, Kcalb
Santy (1) - Clem 36
rae () -

10/15
Leading: @The Wasp
yeet closed in ~18.5h hours

 

[WildZoo]

though I'm mostly here for the tie

I see this is no longer relevant but it's people I think are village who broke the tie so that's...not helpful

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz 42

Damn, if only I had noticed when this happened, I would have stopped posting

 

[GoSpursGo]

Damn, if only I had noticed when this happened, I would have stopped posting

I'm apparently some number north of 50

This is why you can't ever plan to sneak attack me in the middle of the night, btw

 

[WildZoo]

I'm apparently some number north of 50

This is why you can't ever plan to sneak attack me in the middle of the night, btw

Future sneak attacks will only occur when you've left to take a nap

 

[Kcalb]

Mrs Queequeg 26

When did that one appear

The voteback between Clem and Santy is interesting to say the least

Finally up.to date, sleep well everyoneeee

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR () -
genny () -
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - Santy 38, SAR 14, Zenge 61
Wasp (5) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 57, Spurs 62, kcalb 17
Santy (1) - Clem 36
rae () -

10/15
yeet closed in ~18.5 hours

 

[GoSpursGo]

When did that one appear

Idk, I did not independently verify AM’s calculations, and you can see for players I moved around clearly I didn’t recalculate

 

[GoSpursGo]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR () -
genny () -
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - Santy 38, SAR 14, Zenge 61
Wasp (5) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 57, Spurs 62, kcalb 17
Santy (1) - Clem 36
rae () -

10/15
yeet closed in ~18.5 hours

Oho, @samac @WildZoo @Zenge142 were in danger of getting capped

 

[Clem J]

Im starting to.see you charm, keep.goimg


No clue how to.read this is the first time I see it, could you help me?

I'm nothing but pure riz

 

[samac]

I'm glad you asked!

The 2x wolf Modifier is where I weighted the data coming from Kitz and about Kitz.

For the wolf wagon bonus, I assigned extra weight to the 1st 2nd and 3rd votes on Kitz, with everyone else getting normal weights.

Here's a larger vision of the raw data

View attachment 415751

brain no go burrrrr. Brain goes too busy. Brain don’t compute.

 

[toberto]

I still have 8 more pages to read

My intiial thoughts during the night was that there’s likely a wolf among the wolf wagon but looking at the lineup and how everyone approached it I’m finding difficult to justify any directions. I have an itch about some things Samac says but I think we will have better luck today looking at who was afraid to vote Kitz

the santy voters are interesting to me. But there are 4 of them and they can’t all be wolves so I need to see who feels less genuine with it. To me it was coming off as Zenge just piling on, which I think at the time was helping save Clem ? Zenge’s early claim is also bit iffy to me, he says it’s self resolving so we can let him try resolve, but I don’t think there was a need to claim so early?

Fruit looks good and most the kits voters look good tbh, when I looked at how they approached the vote. Spurs hopped on and then hopped off onto Beans? Which isn’t going to make an impact to the yeet. Bit of an odd choice.

I need to look at eod 1 again but for now I need to try read the thread in short bursts

 

[samac]

Aww poor moon, she was just killed in our concurrent game (which ended overnight with my death as well.)

Couple notes:
I know everyone wants to hear from me and I didn't hit minimum but I'm both a night owl West Coaster with spotty day time availability and confused by this site. There's so much nonsense to scroll past, I am definitely just glazed with all the signatures, gifs, and the like. I did not read the final 10 pages of posts on Day 1 because it was too much.

@fruitsalad I use she/her but I really don't care what you use. However, for everyone, I am not used to being shortened to "squee" so I may or may not register that as me

Overall thoughts on Day 1: I don't think that it's possible to read guilt or not on Day 1, I think you just kill someone and read the chips that fall. A wolf is always exciting but doesn't always make it easy to track votes. Also, I am under the impression that I can call up vote scores on command? Or is that just an MU thing? I think this is my first time on a forum and makes me realize how little time I've really spent on the interwebs

So glad you’re here!
I’m sure someone has answered about MU so we’ll leave that alone but I’d appreciate if you could read the last 10 pages cause the wagon formed on a wolf and that’s when all the movement happened

 

[samac]

Why rae?


I do agree QQ should by default be in POE

Again with the rae? I'm not seeing it.

Do they even make nickels anymore?

BUT YOU HAD TIME TO TALLY ALL OF THE POSTS WHERE ONE PLAYER MENTIONED ANOTHER MEMBER AND WEIGHT ACCORDING TO THE ORDER IN WHICH PEOPLE VOTED???

I shouldn't even respond to this, but I don't see how I'm paired with kitz.

I haven’t reviewed your interactions but how are you unpaired with kitz? Like what provides distance?

 

[samac]

Sum of kitz reads for my own brain:

Fruit - V
Samac - V lean
Zenge - pingy but maybe V
SAR - neutral
Kcalb - pure
Spurs - V and pushed fruit on who in the votes for spurs was pinging them
Clem - never read clem but got on spurs' case for voting him? Then came back and was like "hmmmm maybe clem?"


I feel like this doesn't look fab for clem or for spurs (distancing maybe?), but I also feel like we don't have much to go off of in regards to kitz's interactions with others.

I already did dis keep up lol

 

[samac]

this is how i know this is a science based site lol. we sometimes use spreadsheets (i used to love them) but we tracked votes only

This is a relatively new zenge thing I think. I don’t know if I’m a fan tbh but we’ll see going forward.

 

[samac]

i can't tell who moved or not - all i can see/know how to find is the final vote. we have a site theory that the second position is the easiest to hide in. i don't know if it holds up or not, but it's as good as place as any to start voting on Day 2, the worst of all days

So yoh all vote the second vote on the wolf counter wagon?

 

[samac]

I intended to be asleep but here we are, my body and mind have finally overcome the timezone change as they do at home

I’m on call and got called at 3:30. It’s like my body says “you got enough sleep you’re good” and won’t let me go back. So here I am. 🙁

 

[samac]

I think this is giving fruit too much space. I’m not currently sussing fruit but they’ve been trying out new styles of play. I don’t think this is the lock you’re saying it is.

New style of play does not equal running over your packmate. It’s a lock

 

[samac]

(⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠）⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

HES MY CHILD

 

[samac]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR () -
genny () -
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - Santy 38, SAR 14, Zenge 61
Wasp (5) - fruit 13, samac 53, Dubz 57, Spurs 62, kcalb 17
Santy (1) - Clem 36
rae () -

10/15
yeet closed in ~18.5 hours

Unyeet wasp
Yeet Clem

 

[samac]

Oho, @samac @WildZoo @Zenge142 were in danger of getting capped

Zenge being high tickles my nose hairs

 

[toberto]

I feel like you’re salty the votes came off Santy and that’s not a good look Zenges.

zenges being salty looks exactly like what it is but why would a wolf openly be salty about that

So while no one likes a salty person I’m leaning that it’s surely a towny emotion

 

[toberto]

You did reference it but I didn't know what you were talking about, which is why I kept asking what you were talking about.

You have to understand that in the moment I had no idea the context of what you guys were arguing about. I hadn't actually seen whatever had been said about moon that SAR said should also apply to her, so I didn't have any reason to think she was intentionally misrepresenting it. I could have tried harder to figure it out but I was also multitasking/trying to get some work done and my brain was following other threads.

So like immediately when you were like "Dubz wtf" I was like "What...did I do?" because I truly was not paying that much attention to your back and forth other than the one comment I made when Zenge asked me what I thought about SAR's vote for you.

I read this and want to believe how you were feeling - confused. So I’m putting myself in your shoes in that I’m called out and I’m confused and I know what I’m confused about, it’s an argument about Santy and Sar that I’m lacking context of.

You also say you were busy multitasking with other work this is fine I can believe that

but you posted a lot and responded a lot and didnt want to go grab context to better inform yourself over what was going on? You remained present but not too much on either side as to not uncommit to any side of the fence so your vote could go where needed. I think it strikes me as unusual

There’s a fear to be present in the topic as you were called out, but there’s not an instinct to investigate what the issue was, which was a feeling I was getting from you generally even before the sars vs santy moment

 

[toberto]

Someone said this is Kits second time wolfing so if I just iso their posts I’m sure they’ve either avoided their wolf partners or been awkward with them. I’ll do it when I have time later if I haven’t already seen someone else do it

 

[toberto]

There was a good 15-20 minutes where he was pushing a Clem/SAR binary choice, and it didn't seem to get traction. For whatever reason, when he switched to kitz the floodgates opened up.

I reserve the right to be wrong on the exact timing, but I looked into this today and that's what I recall. moons even said something to the effect that it was spooky that nobody reacted to Santy's PR claim. Until he switched to kitz

In my opinion the kitz vote had more reasoning and weight behind it though. What swayed me independently was their uninformed panic self pres vote that they tried to play off as a change of opinion. It also had just happened recently that everyone saw.

SARS was mostly sus for how he reacted to Santys vote which is kind of ugly reasoning that I never like to hold against someone because it’s just emotional based on how someone personally takes a vote against them. Santy obviously had their own reasoning for voting SARS that I don’t actually recall anymore so can’t have been that damning

And clem was sus for just being unhelpful

I just don’t see a world right now where Santy is wolf. If kitz was town I could be considering Santy but that was not the case so I won’t

 

[toberto]

I'm contemplating because I do think we could be looking at another SAR/kitz pair given the defenses from SAR (though she didn't pull out all the stop and go full iso) but I fail to understand kitz pushing back on the Clem votes in that context. Which would make me lean more Clem.

UNLESS it's all three of them which would be **** luck for the woofs!

Inside the brackets is actually a really towny fair assessment of Sar from dubs

Unless it’s just dubs/Sar which is why they’ve taken a dig but wanted to add some sugar around it

 

[samac]

Samac usually: I don’t know these people I can’t read them!
Samac with KC and Toby:

 

[Clem J]

This is a relatively new zenge thing I think. I don’t know if I’m a fan tbh but we’ll see going forward.

I'm a fan

 

[Clem J]

***unyeet santy***

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs

 

[Clem J]

Tired clem is begrudgingly backing down

There's a 50/50 chance I see a terrible movie with my wife tomorrow if I do I'll make some basic becca reads after that

If I don't I'll make them sometime in the afternoon if I'm awake I guess

 

[toberto]

Genny and Rae both being cats has me thinking they are the same person

 

[Santygrass]

I'm late but I'll compensate saying @supershorty go to bed

 

[toberto]

I still find it very interesting that many people admitted Clem was sus on D1, yet almost nobody wanted to vote there.

I find it surprising how much attention Clem has been getting for doing much of nothing

Like his name is being shouted a lot

And it’s interesting there wasn’t more of a push to him given a wolf then fell over day 1

Note to self to take a look at who was saying Clem but hesitant to vote Clem

And was there anyone hesitant to vote both Clem and kits

Surely Clem would have been a good yeet if he is town why was there not more push to it - is he actually not town

 

[Santygrass]

I can finally go to sleep in peace thanks

Anyways I'm between Wasp / Clem / SAR / Dubz

Atm, will move on my tunneling cuz I can't play otherwise

Can you talk about how you feel about Zenge's play and what made you move?

 

[Santygrass]

He's actually so absent that I stole adopted his real child, @apoptosis09

Also, roode. But I dont mind sharing my childs, it means less work for me!

 

[Santygrass]

I find it surprising how much attention Clem has been getting for doing much of nothing

This is also my feeling with The Wasp. I reckon Wasp had a kinda bad looking post being good faith to kitz? But other than that the wagon also built very smoothly idk.

I'm pondering. But I am currently leaving to go to work and later will have dnd session so my time will be very limited (Skill Issue rip)

 

[Santygrass]

At this point my leans are

Town: Kitzuna who seems pretty active but also isn't slamming down on the Is Town or Is Scum

Scum: Kcalb is doing the opposite which is kind of pinging my radar, as potentially performative

The Avocado where we play via a combination of Discord Rooms for Faction Chats and Disqus comment sections for Game Days. It's glorious. The Roleplays and rivalries over the years have been intense.

I ask myself this every day lol jk

So like.

Idk how to feel about kitz being town be the first actual read they make and also almlst exclusively. Also they voted SAR at EoD someone probably should check the timing of that wagon-wise

 

[Santygrass]

I'll get to that, i'm setting up shorty's new computer

The basic premise is that I take any posts where someone says something positive about another player "I think AM is village" for example and I mark it down.

I also do the same for negative posts. "I think Zonges is wolfing" as an example.

Then I calculate the differences in a summary.

I also add the final votes to the summary to make a second summary that accounts for the votes.

I track neutral comments too, but they don't get factored in.

The names on the top x axis are the people making the comments, and the names on the side y-axis are who the comments are about

I'll talk analysis when I get a minute

I forgot to reply, but ty for the explanation. Mostly resurfacing this because Im waiting for the analysis yippee