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hey guys for those of you who have taken the COMLEX, congrats!
when you sober up and relax, can u give us some guidance about what you studied and what you found helpfull, did you take a class or study on your own and anything that you wish u did/didn't do. i am so happy for you guys!
thanx in advance for your help.
 
I'd be sure to know the innervation of the extremities cold. Also, cram all of the pharm details into your skull that you can.

I studied on my own & with classmates. I used Savarese, First Aid, Step Up, and my path notes.
 
what she said... and make sure you can do about 200 q at a time... fatigue is a serious factor... also be familiar with different ways of saying the same things, and any and all epomyms you can.
and I found that Qbank for comlex was not worth it
better do saverece Q and usmle qbank, with BSS books for questions. If you can get a goljan high yield notes set do that too, if you have time. I used FA, step up, goljan path, and the kaplan books, with katzung pharm review for reference. I can honestly say though, that no one book seems to have "everything".
::shrug::
 
path recall
anatomy recall
pharm recall
micro made simple
first aid
simmons opp
dubins ekg book
comlex qbank
quick glance immuno
 
Step Up
First Aid
Simmons OMM Review 1st Ed.
Cram Notes from drsimmons.net
Q Bank for USMLE
 
is there a similar to first-aid type of book for COMLEX, which covers all the broad topics?
 
The topics are the same Kpax. Biochem is biochem, and pharm is pharm. The only thing lacking is OMM which you can do with some very basic references.
 
PACtoDOC said:
The topics are the same Kpax. Biochem is biochem, and pharm is pharm. The only thing lacking is OMM which you can do with some very basic references.


cool, good to know, thanks
 
As has been said... Innervations and dermatomes were vital. I'd make sure I was strong in neuroscience/musculoskeletal. No insertions or origins... mostly nerve lesions, CNS pathways and nuclei, orthopaedics, hand/foot ligaments, and vascular anastamoses. Embryo is virtually non-existent. I'd say 10 total questions in biochem. Only a few histo questions. Psych was low yield also. I recommend simmons cram sheet and kaplan/savarese for OMM. Make sure you know that stuff! I was praying for OMM questions after a while... they are easy when they are coherent 🙂 .
This year they forcused on inheritance of diseases. Apparently they expected you to be a radiologist too... if you're starting early it wouldn't hurt to do something like Clincal Radiology MRS or just focus on the xrays, cross sections, and MRI/CT's while preparing for anatomy.

FA is great for most topics... but not anatomy!
Step up was a great supplement to FA when things got choppy.
Q-Bank all the way! I finished the whole thing and took notes on the questions I got wrong. I felt the 3 month subscription was WELL worth it.
 
Know the extremities really well. I had a crap load of of arms and legs. I think I had over 6 questions just on flexion contractures. Head trauma out the whazoo. For some reason, I got a lot of gout drugs??? They not only asked me about gout drugs for gout, but also for odd reasons for using them so I had to know the mechanism.

As stated earlier, X-rays (chest) and MRIs (head).

Everyone knows you need to have the sympathics and para down cold.
 
Please, there is NO reason to look at how to read an Xray/MRI...did you see the quality? :laugh: Honestly, you can answer many of the "picture" questions without the picture, but they are there to look at. Some of the bugs were ugly too. It was hard sometimes to determine if they were purple or pink...Oh well, I just hope to pass...400 baby...400!!! Obviously I second the motion to know Symps and Paras, dermatomes, and reflexes.
 
There should not even be a COMLEX Q Bank. They should simply come up with about 300 manip questions and add them to all DO student's USMLE Q-bank. The truth is that USMLE preparation cannot be separated from COMLEX preparation with a few exceptions. I would not waste time studying biochem or stats for COMLEX, but if you use Q bank and choose to answer the questions by system, it will naturally exclude 99% of the biochem, stats, and molecular bio questions. Then you can go back and do them right after COMLEX before you take USMLE. That is my approach.
 
COMLEX was not anything like I expected. The most high-yield subjects were:

Odd bugs in places they dont belong.
Psych drugs.
Gardening injuries (all psoas syndrome).
Anatomy of the lower leg (50+ questions).
Cranial nerves (surprisingly high yield-Facial) along with 'eye pain'.
WOMEN AND THEIR HORMONES!
Anything genitourinary (hernias, stones, impotence, vasculature, vaginismus :laugh: )

I felt the path was weak, as was the micro. I was prepared for viral morphologies and more depth to the bacteria. Pharm was highly represented, but not in the way I would have liked. There is no way to prepare for the pictures, and they were awful anyway. Luckily there was some decent clinical info (like the kid with ascaris...there was nothing on the slide that would tell you that, you just have to know that everyone in Ecuador has ascaris).

Oh well, I feel pretty good about it, honestly, and since 95+% pass, most of us have nothing to worry about. It is a crapshoot tho.
 
DOSouthpaw said:
For some reason, I got a lot of gout drugs??? They not only asked me about gout drugs for gout, but also for odd reasons for using them so I had to know the mechanism.

Dr. Goljan told us the other day that there can be as many as 160 practice questions on COMLEX, and that if they seemed to hit something to death on your test and it didnt show up on everyones test, it could likely be a 'practice' item. I didnt know the COMLEX worked this way.
 
This test was a joke. The fact that it bestows medical licensure upon anyone is a scary thought. It's amazing that all states even accept COMLEX as a licensing exam. It really makes you wonder who writes these questions. Obviously not professional question writers.

My friends that are lawyers, teachers, etc. could have studied a couple weeks and gotten as many questions as I did right.

In talking with some classmates on how you could prepare better if you had failed it; we all came to the conclusion that nothing could prepare you. The questions were all crapshoots. Basically you had to know insignificant minutiae, or you weren't going to get the question right. There was no reasoning or thought required. You either knew it or you didn't. All the major topics that you think would be represented were not.

Lots of management questions as well. That's fine if you're a former PA or NP, but to expect normal second-year medical students to be able to know about patient management is a little ridiculous.

My biggest beef was with drug side effects.
There were drugs I had never heard of on there. I looked up the side effects of some of the drugs they asked about after the test. Most of the side effects were only listed in Pharm TEXTBOOKS, not review books. And even those were listed as "rare". They didn't even ask about common side effects.

And they also like to ask about N/V, diarrhea, fatigue, and headache. Every friggin drug causes these side effects. It was ridiculous.

I had 3 sacrum questions and 12 PANS/SANS questions. And that was supposed to be so high yield. 🙄

Even the questions that seemed credible dind't give enough information to get to the answer. Two or three sentence questions should not be allowed on board exams.

And matching? WTF? It was either ridiculously easy or impossible. No in between.

There were a couple questions that had two right answers and a couple that didn't have any right answers.

Overall. It was a poor test of the first two years of medical school. No matter how well you do in school the first two years or how much you prepare in the weeks prior, none of that will help with this exam. I'm talking from experience on this one.

Just hope that you know the abstract facts that they decide to test on. 🙄


All that being said, if I failed I would focus on the following in hopes of getting a few questions right.

1. Memorize all the nerves of the arm and leg.
2. Memorize every drug in the PDR.
3. Memorize every bug.
4. Memorize every buzz word. Even the ones that aren't high yield. There were a couple buzzwords that I didn't know so I got some "easy" questions wrong. If Goljan didn't teach it, then I'm not sure how important it could be. But apparently the NBOME thought they were "important". 🙄
5. Head injuries.
6. Every abstract OMT management principle.
 
direwolf---did you mean that you cant believe that its scary to get a license because its easy or because of the random stuff presented in the test? what i think was scary or borderline pathetic was we had a couple of students taking step 1 for like the 3rd time.. 😱

hopefully things will get better when the test goes to the computer..

one thing i will say in defense of the comlex, even with the shortcomings of the test i can understand how they would want us know how to treat gonorrhea rather know some obscure step in the krebs cycle.Thats my theory on the lack of biochem.

what do you think?
 
NebelDO said:
direwolf---did you mean that you cant believe that its scary to get a license because its easy or because of the random stuff presented in the test? what i think was scary or borderline pathetic was we had a couple of students taking step 1 for like the 3rd time.. 😱

hopefully things will get better when the test goes to the computer..

one thing i will say in defense of the comlex, even with the shortcomings of the test i can understand how they would want us know how to treat gonorrhea rather know some obscure step in the krebs cycle.Thats my theory on the lack of biochem.

what do you think?

If you couldn't tell, I was saying that this test is "scary" because it is ridiculously difficult. And not "fair" difficult, but random difficult.

Of course there were some very easy questions. But they are only easy if your school happened to teach you that particular disease or treatment.

For example, there was a particular type of breathing that had two questions associated with it. No professor at our school thought it was important enough to teach to us. Therefore me and a bunch of classmates got those two questions wrong. People at other schools may have gotten both questions right and thought they were "easy" because their professors talked about it. And this situation works vice versa. There were some abstract questions that most of our classmates got right because some professor here mentioned it. I'm sure people at some other schools probably missed those questions because they were not taught it.

My point is that these topics would NOT have been found in any review book.

The only way to get a lot of correct answers is to be lucky enough to know some of the random facts that they tested on.

This test required no reasoning/thinking skills whatsoever.

You either knew the answer or you didn't. And many of the topics tested on were not considered "high yield" nor representative of what we (by we, I mean OSU-COM) learned in the first two years of medical school.

We also had several people taking it for the third time as well.

Before taking the test, there were some in my class that would poke fun at those repeating the test. After taking it, they soon realized how very possible it is even for very smart people that did really well the first two years of medical school to fail this thing repeatedly. They even had Goljan helping them out on an individual basis, and he couldn't even predict what was going to be on the test. 🙄

There are no areas that you can focus on to improve your score the second time around. It's all a crapshoot.

If you fail USMLE, at least you know the area/s that you should focus on to pass the second time.


Overall, I just didn't think it was a fair test of the first two years of medical school, nor was it a test of reasoning/thinking ability- which is what a board exam should be all about.

Sure, there were some good/important points that were tested. I think some of the path/biochem/sacrum/some micro questions were very relevant and important. But there was not NEARLY enough of them.

They should load up on the "good" questions and keep the random ones to a minimum. I realize that you need some random minutiae just to separate the top scorers. But lets stick to high yield drugs, OMT, anatomy, micro, etc.
 
i agree with you totally..they should think about adding a survey to the end of the test..kinda like a "book 5" so we can write down suggestions and comments about the exam.
 
I agree. But I doubt it would change anything. This is the way this exam has always been, and I'm sure it will continue until they decide to hire professional question writers like USMLE does.

The real scary thing is that Step 2 is supposed to be even worse as far as ridiculous questions. 😱
 
DireWolf, I completely agree with you about how ridiculous that exam was! 😱 There were drugs on there that I had never heard of and then when I looked them up later, the pharm books would have one line written about them! Then on the other hand, I had 3 or 4 questions on psyllium! WTF?? (All I can say is thank goodness for those metamucil ads on tv!). I feel like there was nothing I could have done to better prepare myself because I still wouldn't have known some of the stupid things they asked.

BTW, for those who haven't taken it yet, I used First Aid and the Kaplan books to study. First Aid was okay, but it left out A LOT of details that were asked. My only advice is to start studying early (it's never too early).
 
I know you are frustrated DireWolf, but I have to disagree with you completely. I was actually very much impressed with how clinically oriented this exam was. Every exam has a few random items but often these are "pilot" questions anyway. Even the USMLE does this. 8% of the nation failed COMLEX 1 last year and 5% failed USMLE. Thus that is pretty comparable. That respiratory question you mentioned was straight out of respiratory physiology texts and was rather straightforward. There will always be something that you did not get taught at one school but others did. At our school we all missed any question referring to the zygopophyseal joint because we had never heard of that. But overall, I find it much more useful to test on treatable diseases than to test on enzymatic kinetics. Relax as I am sure you did perfectly fine. You barely have to get more than every other questio nright to pass my friend.
 
All I know is there were way too many boggy prostates and way too much copious frothy green discharge. :wow:

The images were a complete joke. Our whole 4th book was images and EKG's. Probably like 10 EKG's, all stuff that's pretty definitive, I thought.

But the MRI of the spine showing the "obvious" lesion made me laugh out loud!!!! :laugh:
 
I could not see anything obvious! I was waiting for someone to pop out from the hallway and yell "You've been PUNKD"..... Sadly it never occurred and thus I had to make a decision on that crazy MRI. No worse than the MRI of the knee with no obvious lesion either. Or the ultrasound of the RUQ. I 3rd year rads resident probably would have struggled with some of those. And di you like the lower leg fracture? Anybody figure out where it was hidden in the dark matrix of the glossy pages?? :scared:
 
it was soo obvious everyone was like...uhh i dunno S1?
i swear i took a bathroom break just to clean my glasses on that one..you know...maybe i was seeing things....(or not, as the case may be)
 
All I know is that I was like...."uh, I don't know, S1" :laugh: As far as that leg...I looked at it before reading the question and thought "oh, some old lady must have had a fall and broke her hip" since it was rotated and messed up... :laugh: :laugh:
Oh, and then I read the question.....................
 
PACtoDOC said:
I could not see anything obvious! I was waiting for someone to pop out from the hallway and yell "You've been PUNKD"..... Sadly it never occurred and thus I had to make a decision on that crazy MRI. No worse than the MRI of the knee with no obvious lesion either. Or the ultrasound of the RUQ. I 3rd year rads resident probably would have struggled with some of those. And di you like the lower leg fracture? Anybody figure out where it was hidden in the dark matrix of the glossy pages?? :scared:

Yup, after about 10 minutes of staring at it. And the stem only stated that she "missed a step", right? No info on the appearance (surely it was baseball sized swelling) of the ankle.

I mean, tell me. Is there a school at which you actually view MRI's and Xrays to the point that you should be able to see OBVIOUS lesions on comlex??? Without pertinent medical history facts???

At my school we just learned what imaging modality would be best for various problems. The fact that we SHOULDN'T be expected to be able to interpret radiology images at this point in our career was stressed more often than not.

...hey i'm glad you guys survived, anyway. Who's taking usmle? when? 🙂
 
PACtoDOC said:
And di you like the lower leg fracture? Anybody figure out where it was hidden in the dark matrix of the glossy pages?? :scared:

The funny thing was I had almost given up and put calcaneus, which is the most common bone fractured in the foot, I believe, when I looked at it again and saw a HUGE FRACTURE OF THE FIBULA, that must have been displaced about a centimeter. It would have slapped me had it been a woman, I was so close.

My favorite was the two views of the guy with the head mass...where the **** was that? And the scapular growth? Has anyone ever heard of a scapular tumor?
 
the ****ed up thing was the dude also had a fracured clavicle
wtf ... in fact i know he did because thats what mine looked like
 
My bf had a meckel's when he was 15. He's a walking case history 🙄 .
If I didn't know him though, I'd think it was an atypical presentation too.
 
You mean you guys have never heard of a scapular osteosarcomatouslipomatousfibroma?? It is the 38th most common cause of bone cancer behind Pez candy overdose!!! 😀

Oh, and Brooklyn....a fractured clavicle that has healed and has callous formation is very common in 1 of 10 chest x-rays due to it being the most commonly fractured bone in the body. I am certain that is what you saw.
 
PACtoDOC said:
You mean you guys have never heard of a scapular osteosarcomatouslipomatousfibroma?? It is the 38th most common cause of bone cancer behind Pez candy overdose!!! 😀

Oh, and Brooklyn....a fractured clavicle that has healed and has callous formation is very common in 1 of 10 chest x-rays due to it being the most commonly fractured bone in the body. I am certain that is what you saw.

yea it wasnt an old Fx, because it was not healed in any way... either way the question i had seemed to be having something to do with thoracic outlet... so i couldnt pick anything scapular... oh and if pez overdose woulda been a choice, I def would have known that... I only studied up to the 37th most common cause of bone cancer... oh durn
:laugh:
 
I just had to clean off my screen because I spit on it when I started laughing PAC!!! :laugh: :laugh:
 
Does anyone really know what we need to get "percentage wise" to pass this thing? I've heard below 50% all the way to 60%. Also, did anyone think it was weird that they only made an announcement about contesting questions on the second day! I heard it may be because most of the dropped questions are from the second day. Anyway, that was the worst thing I've ever gone through.

I particularly liked the one about... A gardner comes into your clinic with diabetes, hypertension, vaginismus, hemorroids,chest pain, esophageal laceration, testicular cancer and bipolar disorder. What OMT technique is contraindicated??
 
Oh if you're going to bring up OMT in questions....
How about the girl who was in the middle of a PE, yet they had time to figure out that T4 was rotate left and sidebent right! Can you imagine??!!! "Hold on mam, I just gotta finish my structural exam... Would you mind not breathing so heavy, you're ruining my palpation?!" 😀
 
DrMaryC said:
But the MRI of the spine showing the "obvious" lesion made me laugh out loud!!!! :laugh:

:laugh:

We had a question EXACTLY like that last year, using the same wording - "You can see an obvious lesion..." Obvious to whom? The writers of the exam?

Congrats to all you guys who finished the COMLEX and good luck to those taking the USMLE!

I am trying to study for Step 2, but it is just not working right now... :scared:
 
I just took teh USMLE today June 11 and the COMLEX on the 8th,9th.
Some thoughts:

COMLEX:
Very grueling, endurance test; often you just want to quit and turn it in. Lots and lots of pictures. Need the pictures to answer the questions usually. The micro was exceptionally difficult. A lot of fungus questions and rare stuff. Pictures of fungi too. MRIs, tons of chest x-rays, pictures of micro; giardia, ova, worms, gram stains, etc etc. Even an MRI of some torn up knee ligaments. Not sure how you can study for this, other than do a radiology rotation.

The exam overall, had a very clinical slant to it. Very few straight recall questions. There were no "buzzwords", no "malar rash". They describe it. They don't say "clue cells" they just say cells with bacteria attached to them. However, they did use "school of fish" for Chancroid. It depends on how much the buzzword may tip you off.

Becuase of the huge clinical slant to the exam, you often sit their wondering "how on earth am I suppposed to know that?" or "What class was taht from?" For example, how long does it take air to be reabsorbed after abdominal surgery? Or other very clinical questions.

Also they assume you know the pathology. There weren't straight up pathology questions. They would describe a disease like myasthenia gravis, you figure it out, but they ask you about future complications, possible treatments, etc. Rarely do they ask straight pathology, like "which receptor is being attacked by the antibodies in this patient?" It's more of an applied/implied pathology.

The pharm on the comlex was difficult too. They asked about alternative drugs and alternative therapies. So many questions were about a woman having HTN and Diabetes and taking hormone replacement, what other drug can you add for "something" taht won't "something". You need to know the mechanisms of how these drugs work and how they may affect each other. Simply knowing that clonazapine cause "agranulocytosis" is not enough... know what it is and how it affects other stuff. (The USMLE wants you to know the mechanism of how it causes the agranulocytosis)

The COMLEX loved the common diseases; HTN, CHF, Emphysema, Stroke, CAD, Diabetes, Toxicities, prostate, UTIs, hormone replacement, drug abuse, alcoholism, and seizures. Know theses diseases well and their processes. Not many rare diseases tested. Lots and lots of ECG with rythms, know the patterns, they loved these.

The Micro was very tough compared to the USMLE. You need to focus on the fungi as well as bacteria/virus. No need to know the shape or structure of viruses, you don't need to know if it is encapulated, single stranded, DNA etc etc. (The USMLE expects you to know it)

The Anatomy/Neuro was substantial, this is expected. Being DOs, you better know your anatomy real well. They asked about the phrenic nerve referring pain to the shoulder from the gall bladder (the USMLE did too), the tibial nerve, peroneal, fibular, common and deep, and pudendal, rectal, testicular torsion.... stuff DOs know a lot about. Enjoy these!

Not on the COMLEX, include subjects like; Epidemiology, biostatistics, ethics, legal issues, no calculations at all. Other low-yield topics include; biochem, immuno, behavioral, OMM. Surprisingly, the OMM was not very difficult, and not very much. For OMM, know the contraindications for OMM for various disease states (usually common sense). The behavioral was easy to figure out, just know the basics. The biochem focused on the obvious enzyme and nutrient deficiencies, no need to know details about transcription, translation, post-transitional modification, etc. The immuno part focused on some interleukins, and teh roles each type of cell plays. Just know the basics.

A lot of people complain that the comlex is "not well written". This simply is not true... it's too well written. It's just very hard. In terms of grammar and English, I am an editor (have been for 17 years), when I read I always pick up on English and grammar mistakes.... comlex did not have any, it was well written. Although one question on the USMLE had bad grammar. People who complain about this, probably did not study enough or know enough. The test is an IQ test of sorts. You have to apply, evaluate, and choose correct answers among many correct answers. (Unlike the USMLE, where only usually one answer is correct)

Comlex Q-Bank is a waste of money... nothing like the real test. The closest was the NBOME 200 released items. Howver, the regular USMLE Q Bank had very good questions, especially pharm and micro... very helpful.

Conclusion: the COMLEX is a very difficult test, that really tests your intelligence and endurance. It focuses on common diseases that you will see a lot of.



USMLE:
If you are a DO taking the USMLE, focus on minutiae. Little details about mechanisms and theories.

The USMLE asks lots of questions in the form of experiments on rats, arteries, etc. Like if you were measuring the tension of this artery before adding epinephrine and drugs X look at these graphs and figure it out.

The USMLE covers all the topics in First Aid. You will get a topic from every section. Usually the ethics and legal stuff is easy to figure out. You will also have to do a few calculations. These are easy points. The behavioral is usually pretty obvious as well.

The hard stuff on the USMLE is the BIOCHEM. It's very detail and mechanism oriented--not clinical. Know what signals cause what, why things happen... don't just memorize buzzwords and associations. I guess bichem at DO schools is just taught differently, we focus on disease and clinical relevance, they focus on mechanism and details or how things work. Don't get me wrong, we did that too, but they go into more detail (I took biochem at an MD and a DO school).

Pathology on the USMLE is just more straight recall of a disease process , then a second step on how it works, like myasthenia gravis above. Or how to treat it etc. The path and biochem on the USMLE likes to ask about the Zebras... the rare diseases that you won't see, whereas the COMLEX asks about more common diseases.

The pictures on the USMLE are usually useless, only in a few cases do you need them. Also they are rare, the histo/path pics are not very many, but they love graphs and charts.

The anatomy and neuro was not heavily tested, coming from a DO background you will rock these questions. They did have 2 or 3 questions on iliopsoas (psoas) and quadratus lumorum. Pray that you get a lot of anatomy.

The Micro on the USMLe was a joke, if you have a strong micro department, it's real easy. Simple stuff. Most cases start with a fever, and cough. Age group tips you off. Some end up with joint pain, or lung pain, cardiomyopathy, etc. Don't worry.

There really was no way to "cram" for it. A lot fo stuff was not in review books, and you just learned it in class. Both tests asked about Leptin and Neuropeptide Y for some reason. Even though this is not taught in most schools. A lot of the USMLE questions were straight from QBank, except for all the "experiments"... Qbank doesn't have any "experiment" based questions.

The USMLE was an easier test, the questions usually did not require too much "thought"... just straight up recall, and some application. Not really an "IQ" test. Not as thought provoking or clinical as the COMLEX.
 
I will have to disagree with those who say don't study behavioral science. I had qs about sexual dysfxn that required you to remember dx and cause, disorders for kids (conduct, oppositional, adhd), even sexual abuse. the sexual abuse even came with a pic that almost made me cry. I had to know how to calc hardy-weinberg stats (carrier/risk if you have had one down's child, will you get another stuff), mood disorders (sigecaps), personality disorders, defense mechanisms


let me think....
immunology - il, ifn, stim factors, hypersensitivity rxns
anat - vascular, neuro
omm - diaphragms, diaphragms, sacrum (try using netter with savarese, it helped)
micro- purple and pink bugs with some drugs and side effects, why can't they use the terms induce/inhibit, will that make it too easy, acid fast bugs, fungi
path - i am so glad goljan put micro and path together
histo - highly mag'd pieces of cell - read the q, look at pic, guess, look at answers, guess - thank god for the meekster and his em slides
pharm - get your phd and memorize the pharm phd bible
physio- straightforward, know common disease/disorders/syndromes, then add savarese pans/sans, throw in some sepsis and pharm away
biochem - genetics, lipoprots, apolipoprots, heme synthesis, vitamin toxicity

lets see - that covers a lot. if you're a second year, maybe you can tutor every subject to the first years to help you relearn the minutiae of first year while you are committing your entire second year to your memory 🙄
 
I thought an interesting yet evil distractor was the question about the "san jaoquin valley" farmer, with acid fast bacilli. This question so many people just whipped out the coccidioidies, based on the geographic clue. But, I think TB (acid fast bacilli) was the right answer. Beeyotches.
 
I thought the same thing...I almost put cocci, but then READ the rest of the question... :laugh:
 
i also think that an important thing to study for BS is SLeep..i had like 10 questions on COMLEX for sleep dealing with the stages and what problem goes with it EX. Narcolepsy and REM...this section should not be neglected, they were easy points in the matching sections.
 
I think that I am the only person who LOVED the sleep questions. I worked as a sleep tech in a sleep lab for the last 2 years while working on basic sciences. Who knew it was going to give me 7 free questions without ever studying the material?

If I didn't manage to pass the exam this time around, then I know what to study better - anatomy of the extremities! It seemed like there were hundreds of questions on this topic.
 
Ya...sleep was hit, but it was a gimmee. We had probably 20+ questions on behavioral science (including 2 examples of 'splitting') and our prof told us not to bother coming to the review unless we were taking USMLE also. When you combine that with the endocrine review that we didnt have and the anatomy review that we were required to do on our own it added up to about 100 questions.
 
I also would like to know what the pass percentage is, I have heard several different things. I agree with the poster that contrasted the before test and after test viewpoint of having to repeat it. There were several retaking it with our group and I knew everyone of those folks and they are all SMART! I thought the test was pretty hard. I had an older version of it to practice with (the 200 question one from COMLEX) and thought our test was much harder. I have also heard that in addition to some questions not being counted as trial questions, there also may be a certain number where more than one answer is accepted due to the percentages of people answering with that choice. I know that the odds are in favor of passing, but I'm not going to take anything for granted until that slip comes in. As far as those who repeated the test this time, there but for the grace of God goes any of us!
 
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