The 'face' of bipolar

[Anasazi23]

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The face (and other parts) of "bipolar."

Charges against Lafave dropped.
Debra Lafave fights with spouse, who talks of her problems.

Read the second link...behavioral observations and personal accounts vis-a-vis the husband.

Do you buy it?

Why or why not?

I wonder what her med regimen was/is.

 

[Triathlon]

Do you buy it? Sure.

Why or why not? manic phase/ hyper sexuality, Poor choices.

I wonder what her med regimen was/is. Ineffective.

 

[Milo]

Damn, I wish I was 14 again.

 

[Poety]

sazi TAKE DOWN THAT PICTURE OF ME YOU JERK!!!!

I'm so tired of this forum trying to paste my pic all over 🙄

Wait, thats that molestor woman - thats not me, my mistake

 

[prominence]

I'm so tired of this forum trying to paste my pic all over 🙄

u wish you were half as good looking as this babe.

 

[Anasazi23]

Do you buy it? Sure.

Why or why not? manic phase/ hyper sexuality, Poor choices.

I wonder what her med regimen was/is. Ineffective.

Manic or personality disordered?
--Impossible to tell without more info, I think.

Ineffective med regimen?
--Again, diagnosis dependent. Or effective, but thwarted by noncompliance?

What's your take on her story of the I-was-raped-when-I-was-in-grade-school-that's-why-I'm-like-this defense? It's detailed in the link above.

Her husband appears exasperated on the tv news, and states that he is unsure if that diagnosis, 'bipolar' is correct, though he admits he is no doctor. Would be an interesting clinical interview.

 

[Anasazi23]

On an unrelated note, my motorcycle has the same hypercharger that her's does above. That's the chrome/red thing on the side of the engine with the grooves and little red circles. It helps boost horsepower and adds aesthetic appeal.

 

[Anasazi23]

I also must admit that I follow this double standard. If that was my son, I don't think I would have become too upset. If it were my 14 year-old daughter and the teacher was a man, he (the teacher) would be dead.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

On an unrelated note, my motorcycle has the same hypercharger that her's does above. That's the chrome/red thing on the side of the engine with the grooves and little red circles. It helps boost horsepower and adds aesthetic appeal.

🙄
The guy is salivating over details on the motorcycle....

...so sad.

 

[Poety]

u wish you were half as good looking as this babe.

YOU WISH YOU COULD GET A BABE THAT LOOKED THAT GOOD, all you can get is that shrunken head Sazi has in the shrink thread PFFFFFFFTTT

 

[Poety]

I also must admit that I follow this double standard. If that was my son, I don't think I would have become too upset. If it were my 14 year-old daughter and the teacher was a man, he (the teacher) would be dead.

the charges against her were dismissed btw - shes free.

 

[nortomaso]

I also must admit that I follow this double standard. If that was my son, I don't think I would have become too upset. If it were my 14 year-old daughter and the teacher was a man, he (the teacher) would be dead.

And if I may stretch the provocation even further. Is a 25 year old woman's seducing of a 14 year old boy really abuse? Seems like a 20, 25, 35, or 70 year old boy (or any of us male SDN'ers) would have been just as vulnerable, whereas a 14 year old girl is clearly a vulnerable target when compared with an adult woman. Quite frankly, had that happened to me at 14, I think I would be MORE psychologically sound than I was having to wait another 3 years and ending up with someone a lot less foxy.

 

[LADoc00]

I also must admit that I follow this double standard. If that was my son, I don't think I would have become too upset. If it were my 14 year-old daughter and the teacher was a man, he (the teacher) would be dead.

What if the older guy was a dashing, dare I say plastic surgeon and your choice was between him and the your daughter's other prospects which included Columbine-prone black coat wearing goths, druggies and the local air conditioner repair man??

 

[f_w]

the charges against her were dismissed btw - shes free.

She cut a plea deal with probation, thats why she is free. Charges from an incident at a different school were dropped after the 'victim' didn't want to testify (you wonder why a 16 year old doesn't want to testify about getting laid).

Nice motorcycle though.

 

[Triathlon]

So what is the issue here? Boys are lucky, girls are abused? Maybe this is simply the expose of sexual identity. Men want it and women comply. There are a few outliers, but is it an example of human composition? There is an underlying evolutionary theme here also. Males deposit and female receive. Females have an inherent need to protect themselves and there fertility for the most desireable mate. Males are inherently predisposed to spread their seed as far and wide as possible (to increase fitness). We are supporting this natural pathway with the way we feel inside about all of this. So our attitudes are shaped partly by evolution, I think. What do you all think?

 

[Anasazi23]

YOU WISH YOU COULD GET A BABE THAT LOOKED THAT GOOD, all you can get is that shrunken head Sazi has in the shrink thread PFFFFFFFTTT

That actually made me laugh out loud.


"Hi everyone...I'd like you to meet my date. We just got back from watching Generic Disney movie #4 and had dinner at that new Italian place. Shrunken head, meet my friend Alex. Alex, this is shrunken head. Shrunken's a little tipsy from too much wine, we're gonna head back."

 

[Anasazi23]

What if the older guy was a dashing, dare I say plastic surgeon and your choice was between him and the your daughter's other prospects which included Columbine-prone black coat wearing goths, druggies and the local air conditioner repair man??

Doesn't matter. (I don't think?)

Your signature is ripe for this discussion, and sort of contradicts your above statement, no? Or...is it supporting it?

Well snap out of it! What, a hot older women made you feel her cans? Stop crying like a little girl.

 

[Anasazi23]

🙄
The guy is salivating over details on the motorcycle....

...so sad.

Admit it...you're itching to get this gal on Zyprexa and Depakote.

 

[prominence]

all you can get is that shrunken head Sazi has in the shrink thread PFFFFFFFTTT

thats an awful thing to say about ur own hideous baby. gotta love that icon of urs.

 

[nortomaso]

So what is the issue here? Boys are lucky, girls are abused? Maybe this is simply the expose of sexual identity. Men want it and women comply. There are a few outliers, but is it an example of human composition? There is an underlying evolutionary theme here also. Males deposit and female receive. Females have an inherent need to protect themselves and there fertility for the most desireable mate. Males are inherently predisposed to spread their seed as far and wide as possible (to increase fitness). We are supporting this natural pathway with the way we feel inside about all of this. So our attitudes are shaped partly by evolution, I think. What do you all think?

I think your analysis is apt. This is why sex has "meaning" to women but not so much (post-ejaculation) to men. So it is unfair for the legal code to punish this woman the same as if the genders were reversed.

 

[vesper9]

i don't see this as a gender issue, but as a role/power issue. Her position as a teacher is what makes this gross misconduct. We specifically entrust teachers with the care of our children and children must be able to trust that their teacher will lead by example and respect them as individuals. Every time i talk to a teacher about this they adamantly insist that this constitutes abuse regardless of the teacher's gender.

I also don't see how you can immediately make the assumption that boys are never hurt by this behavior. I think it could definitely contribute to long-term problems in relationships. I specifically remember reading about the statement of one 16 year old boy that talked about how his relationships with family and friends became strained, along with problems at school.

 

[Poety]

thats an awful thing to say about ur own hideous baby. gotta love that icon of urs.

I don't even get this joke 🙄

Are you calling my baby in my avatar hideous? Cuz if you are - some shyt is gunna hit the fan for REAL 😡

ETA: go play with your shrunken HEAD little boy

 

[Triathlon]

i don't see this as a gender issue, but as a role/power issue. Her position as a teacher is what makes this gross misconduct. We specifically entrust teachers with the care of our children and children must be able to trust that their teacher will lead by example and respect them as individuals. Every time i talk to a teacher about this they adamantly insist that this constitutes abuse regardless of the teacher's gender.

I also don't see how you can immediately make the assumption that boys are never hurt by this behavior. I think it could definitely contribute to long-term problems in relationships. I specifically remember reading about the statement of one 16 year old boy that talked about how his relationships with family and friends became strained, along with problems at school.

The actual case is not a gender issue you are right. Everything you say here is right beside assuming the boys aren't hurt by this. I don't think any of us assume this or deny that as a real problem at all. My own personal insight into this discussion is surrounding the onlookers' take on the situation. In my post I was pointing out the way our society reacts to this. We as a society, through the eyes of evolution, "protect" the female of our species in her careful choosing of a worthy mate in attempt to increase her secure fitness and the fitness of our group as a whole. And on the otherside the opposite for the male, we allow a wide spreading of his genetic materials to help him increase his fitness and therein perpetuating the species as a whole.
We as an evolved species have "gut reactions", so to speak, in response to what we observe. Disgust being one of the core negative emotions is less commonly experienced in the general population when we hear "14 year old boy seduced by his 25 year old attractive female school teacher" (yes attractive plays a part) VS. "14 year old girl seduced by her 25 year old male school teacher" After reading those two sentences what do you notice about your own gut reaction. That's all. Personally, I think its too bad.

 

[Poety]

Perhaps too bad, but also possibly related to evolution in general. Males are genetically designed to "spread their seed" as you eluded to, whereas women may be genetically geared toward playing the role of nurturer. Its nature vs. nurture pffft

Theres always exceptions, and as we evolve, our roles change. Maybe thats why this is becoming more apalling to some then say - 30 years ago when this would be a right of passage for a young boy?

 

[ORBITAL BEBOP]

I read this article on msn or something. Was she actually dx with bp from a psychiatrist or is she just putting that name on her behavior? It really doesnt help the bp movement that much and I am hoping it was more a personality d/o or just 25 yo femal horniness for some young guy.

I think it can affect a guy as much as a teenage girl. This guy is so distraught he wont even testify. He is not continuing a relationship with her like that other teacher-student liasion.

orbital

 

[Dizz]

My only question here is , why would the kid come out about it? Unless they got caught in the act or something by someone else.

When I was 14 , I would have done anything to have gotten laid. Even more so if it was with one of my really hot teachers.

 

[Doc Samson]

And if I may stretch the provocation even further. Is a 25 year old woman's seducing of a 14 year old boy really abuse? Seems like a 20, 25, 35, or 70 year old boy (or any of us male SDN'ers) would have been just as vulnerable, whereas a 14 year old girl is clearly a vulnerable target when compared with an adult woman. Quite frankly, had that happened to me at 14, I think I would be MORE psychologically sound than I was having to wait another 3 years and ending up with someone a lot less foxy.

Norto! You're back! Was worried for a while there... no-one calling me an out-moded dinosaur. Where are you going next year?

 

[McDoctor]

It's really interesting that we are so quick to dismiss this act involving this 14 year old boy as no big deal since boys ARE different than girls. Would the sentiment change if this boy was with a male teacher (still consentual). I think there would be more outrage, though I don't quite see the difference, morally and ethically.

 

[Triathlon]

It's really interesting that we are so quick to dismiss this act involving this 14 year old boy as no big deal since boys ARE different than girls. Would the sentiment change if this boy was with a male teacher (still consentual). I think there would be more outrage, though I don't quite see the difference, morally and ethically.

I think it has to do with physical power. The authority position arguement will only get you so far. It's all about physical intimidation that gets our reaction. A male-male scenario has the element of male physical domination. Just like that of the male female situations. So that's it. Consent holds no water in these cases either, look at that other teacher student couple that stayed together and had kids while she was in prison.
As far as morality and ethics are concerned it's all wrong regardless of consent. I do not believe a 14 year has any business engaging in sexual activity with any aged person, especially same sex. 👎
They need a whole lot more limbic frontal control before they start messing around with these most powerful feelings and abilities.
Outrage again is a reaction that come from within (evolution)

 

[Anasazi23]

Here's another one. They even look the same.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/9145407/detail.html?rss=jax&psp=video