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"You should use "an" before a word beginning with an "H" only if the "H" is not pronounced: "an honest effort"; it's properly "a historic event" though many sophisticated speakers somehow prefer the sound of "an historic," so that version is not likely to get you into any real trouble."

Exerpt from an english grammar course at UWashington

Rampart
 
He's probably a Canadian anglophile.

The hard and fast rule is that you use "an" when the "H" isn't sounded. BTW If you read an oldish novel (e.g. Evelyn Waugh or Graham Greene) you'll see "an hotel" written; this usage is very old-fashioned. The Oxford English dictionary suggests that Americans could correctly say (and write) "an herb" because they have a tendency to pronounce it as "an erb".

I think that everyone is getting a little too egocentric.
 
My Oxford English dictionary from 1889 is quite clear on the matter. It is an highly regarded text, and indeed is considered the best edition. Peradventure you should consult it more often.
 
So why is it an MD, instead of a MD?

I would guess it's because the pronunciation of the letter "M" begins with a vowel sound.

Just like one says, "a universe", and "an understanding", it's cause the u in universe, is more of a "yew" so it technically starts with a consonant. But the u in undertanding, sounds like a real 'u'.

So, in conclusion, unless spin says "I - school" instead of hhhigh school, then he needs to brush up on the correct use of indefinite articles.

🙂
 
U of Arizona is not in Phoenix.
 
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Originally posted by LUBDUBB
So why is it an MD, instead of a MD?

I would guess it's because the pronunciation of the letter "M" begins with a vowel sound.

Just like one says, "a universe", and "an understanding", it's cause the u in universe, is more of a "yew" so it technically starts with a consonant. But the u in undertanding, sounds like a real 'u'.

So, in conclusion, unless spin says "I - school" instead of hhhigh school, then he needs to brush up on the correct use of indefinite articles.


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"Y" is most remarkable letter: I like to think of it as a demi-vowel.

I pronounce "an high school" as "an igh school" not because of a cockney accent, but rather because I think it lends me a distinguished Francophile air.

As regards the thorny issue of the MD, I pronounce "a MD" as "a Mmm Dee". You should all try breaking the mould; it's liberating.
 
Ooops. I put U. of Arizona under Tucson. Thanks. 😉

(I also added the "oldest" distinctions for the schools listed such as Penn being the oldest school to declare university status and Columbia being the first to hand out Medical Degrees: MD's).

What about Cornell??? Are they the first at something? It feels really wrong that they're not on the list... 😕 😕
 
Too much emphasis on Harvard. Antioch College is the "Antioch College" of experimental colleges.
 
Antioch has about 750 students. It's located in Western Ohio. It is a 4.5 year full time(summers included co-op program. By the time we graduate we will have had five 4 month internships. Our school is noted for our quirky graduates such as Stephen Jay Gould, Leland Clark (invented heart lung machine and Clark oxygen electrode), Rod Serling, Coretta Scott King, etc.. Antioch is student governed and is the most liberal college in the country hands down. It is experimental because it started the co-op program which has been assimilated by many other schools. We were the first school to have women take the same classes as men. Other colleges had women first, but their classes weren't as challenging as the men's. We also were the first college in the country to have a woman professor.

All in all it is a bizarre place. Watch the movie PCU. It was made by someone who graduated from Antioch. It is a farce, but funny nonetheless. Some ignorant people call the place anti-Cock because of the large lesbian population on campus, but that just shows the ignorance of some. Check it out, its a trip. Oh, my quote at the bottom of my posts is from Antioch's founding president.

Melvin
 
Hello Melvin,

That's really interesting. Are there are any "Yale" counterparts to Antioch's "Harvard"? I'll add Antioch to the list if you can come up with a counterpart....I finally got Cornell and Wash U on the list (as well as Wisconsin and Washington, Art Institute of Chicago, etc...). 😉


Originally posted by melvin
Antioch has about 750 students. It's located in Western Ohio. It is a 4.5 year full time(summers included co-op program. By the time we graduate we will have had five 4 month internships. Our school is noted for our quirky graduates such as Stephen Jay Gould, Leland Clark (invented heart lung machine and Clark oxygen electrode), Rod Serling, Coretta Scott King, etc.. Antioch is student governed and is the most liberal college in the country hands down. It is experimental because it started the co-op program which has been assimilated by many other schools. We were the first school to have women take the same classes as men. Other colleges had women first, but their classes weren't as challenging as the men's. We also were the first college in the country to have a woman professor.

All in all it is a bizarre place. Watch the movie PCU. It was made by someone who graduated from Antioch. It is a farce, but funny nonetheless. Some ignorant people call the place anti-Cock because of the large lesbian population on campus, but that just shows the ignorance of some. Check it out, its a trip. Oh, my quote at the bottom of my posts is from Antioch's founding president.

Melvin
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How fitting to name a seat of learning after one of the great Episcopalian seats. Do they have degree ceremonies in Arimathean at Antioch?

I think that the "Oxford" of experimental establishments would be Padua.

For the one person out there who is curious, my first langauge is (the Queen's) English.
 
I added some categories (including baseball, state schools, schools of music, etc....).
 
Can anyone suggest the Harvard and Yale of mortuary science schools? And is it true that Congress plans to ease the medicare budget problem by passing a law which will allow morticians to be primary care providers for senior citizens over the age of 72?
 
Originally posted by groundhog
Can anyone suggest the Harvard and Yale of mortuary science schools? And is it true that Congress plans to ease the medicare budget problem by passing a law which will allow morticians to be primary care providers for senior citizens over the age of 72?
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The Harvard of mortuary sciences is: Simmons School of Mortuary Sciences
 
Brooklyn College is the Harvard of... well..... BROOKLYN!

Onyx
 
Originally posted by ScreamingTreesRule
Brooklyn College ? Are you making that up?!
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No dear. Back in the 80's, there was a NYTimes article that said just that.

By the way, the sciences at Brooklyn College are very challenging and recognized by all. They also have a BA/MD program.

Onyx
 
I cannot stress strongly enough that Flinders University is not the Harvard of Australia; it is a second-tier University. The University of Melbourne is the Harvard of Australia, whilst the University of New South Wales is the Yale. I should also like to add that the Sorbonne doesn't really exist as a separate entity, and that the UK is part of Europe.
 
U T Austin made the list, wooo hooo! Very AWESOME and overlooked school.
 
Originally posted by cg1
Austin is a really cool town ! I know someone who went to UT and really loved it. Great atmosphere and great bar-b-ques. 😀
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Great drinking town also. 😉
 
Spinola,

I guess you're right about Flinders. I've gotten a lot of comments about it and finally got around to changing it. Melbourne is the 2nd oldest U in Australia and probably the most well-known, so I put them as the "Harvard" and the oldest university in Australia (U of Sydney) is given the "Yale" title.

I put the adjective "continental" in front of Europe. I know that Ireland and Great Britain are part of Europe, but since they're English-speaking, I separated them out....

By popular request, Tulane has been given the title of Party School for the general masses. WVU is second (as they were listed near the top of both Party School polls this past year....and seriously...what else is there to do in WV besides party? I think that's the only state without a well-known city....can non-West Virginians even name a popular WV city ??)


Slippery Rock has to be the king of "otherwise-unknown schools if not for their quircky name". Their football scores used to be announced in the national evening news way-back-when just because people got a kick out of their name.

Any other college with that notoriety?? I can't think of any... 😕
 
Harvard is the Harvard of Boston.... no, really, it is 😉
 
Rice is the Harvard of the Southwest, not UT AUstin.
Rice is the Harvard of college baseball and college tennis.
or should it be:
Harvard is the Rice of the Northeast.
 
Yale is the Harvard of Connecticut.
 
I don't know if anyone cares about these but let's see what opinions we have on the Harvard's and Yale's of:

1) Osteopathic Medical schools
2) Dental School
3) Vet School
4) Optometry School
5) Podiatry School
6) Chiropractic School
7) Post-Bacc program Schools
8) Med Schools everyone applies to because they are considered lower tier (GWU, Finch, NYMC, UV, Drexel, etc.)
9) Caribbean Med schools
 
Originally posted by cg1


Are you referring to University of Virginia with the initials "UV" ? Because they are definitely not a lower tier school.
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To clarify, I was actually referring to the University of Vermont. 😀
 
Originally posted by MyEyesMesmerize
I don't know if anyone cares about these but let's see what opinions we have on the Harvard's and Yale's of:

1) Osteopathic Medical schools
2) Dental School
3) Vet School
4) Optometry School
5) Podiatry School
6) Chiropractic School
7) Post-Bacc program Schools
8) Med Schools everyone applies to because they are considered lower tier (GWU, Finch, NYMC, UV, Drexel, etc.)
9) Caribbean Med schools
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Here's one.....KCOM would have to be the Harvard of Osteopathic schools!
 
Hi hedging - Can you think of anything that Rice is known for more than any other school?

I researched it and found that they never won a baseball or tennis National Championship game.

What about a famous alum? Or an unusual fact about Rice?


Originally posted by hedging
Rice is the Harvard of the Southwest, not UT AUstin.
Rice is the Harvard of college baseball and college tennis.
or should it be:
Harvard is the Rice of the Northeast.
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What about North Carolina losing to Marquette in 1971? Wasn't that a huge upset?
 
Rice is famous for having two scientists who discovered buckyballs.
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Thanks - I added the BuckyBall comment to Rice.

In fact, I wish I knew more of the *unique* academic tidbits of schools...

Too bad one of them went to Caltech as soon as he became famous.
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I had this problem listing the very first American Nobel prize winner. Chicago claims him as their own, yet this guy did his *earlier* (and perhaps more important??) work at Clark University in MA and then at Case Western in Cleveland.

He won the Nobel prize after he had already worked at all three schools, so I figure they have the right to "claim him" as their own.

Regarding the buckyball thing...I agree with you. If CIT got one of the scientists *after* he made his discovery, then Rice should be the one to claim him...
 
Originally posted by ScreamingTreesRule
Rice has a great undergraduate school, but UT Austin has a much stronger graduate program.
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Exactly, and if N E one tells you differently then their full of ****!
 
Originally posted by doctor girl
What about the harvard of International Studies? Or is that too general of a category?
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SGU maybe? I dunno
 
U Maryland is the Yale of the state of MD (JHU being the Harvard) and the Harvard of College Park, MD😀 Also probably the Harvard or Yale of state school business and/or information science programs. And definitely the Harvard of state schools for NJ and NY residents that didn't want to go to Rutgers or SUNY schools.

Gustavus Aldolphus College is the Harvard of religion majors and elementary ed. students in the Midwest.
 
Originally posted by irlandesa
U Maryland is the Yale of the state of MD (JHU being the Harvard)
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Hey Irlandesa,

U of MD is the "Yale" of Maryland, right after JHU. If you look after all of the Harvards and Yales are listed for each category in the first message of this thread, there's a "Harvard", "Yale", and "Princeton" listing for the largest cities in the U.S. 😉
 
Santa Clara over Pomona as the Harvard of west coast liberals?!? Good God. Besides the fact that Pomona outshines all of the contenders in the west, Claremont and Harvey Mudd easily top Santa Clara as well.
 
I'm sure that Pomona is a good school, but I've never even heard of it until this thread.
 
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