The "I hate Biochem" Thread

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I'm beginning to seriously hate biochemistry 😡

Okay, I don't mind memorizing pathways.. I don't mind them at all in fact. But when we start getting tested on what the docking amino acid is on PLP or how many amino acids X shares with Y.. I feel the urge to kill someone.

Who's with me?!
 
Here Here! Death to all Phosphatase/Kinase reactions, and their next of kin!
 
Word. Anatomy was really so much better than this. My school does this weird thing with biochem too...metabolic pathways are later in the curriculum, but now we're studying the insane protein crap along with histology in an integrated "cell and tissue physiology" course. And we have an exam Tuesday morning...
 
PianoGirl04 said:
Word. Anatomy was really so much better than this. My school does this weird thing with biochem too...metabolic pathways are later in the curriculum, but now we're studying the insane protein crap along with histology in an integrated "cell and tissue physiology" course. And we have an exam Tuesday morning...

where I go, several of the teachers don't know what they are talking about.
 
I think the clotting cascade is actually pretty important in medicine in general. Well I was a biochem major so i'm not complaining...

jaboy said:
where I go, several of the teachers don't know what they are talking about.
 
felipe5 said:
I'm not only a member, I'm the club president. Stupid clotting cascade

well i'm no fan of biochem, probably my least favorite M1 class (although histo gives it a run for its money), but I think the clotting cascade is one of the more useful things you can learn in biochem...
 
okay, so I agree that the clotting cascade is one of the useful things learned in biochem, but still, memorizing the cascade, well, SUCKS. You gotta agree with me there
 
I LOVED BIOCHEM!I MEAN ALL THE INTRICATE CODES OF PROTEINS AND THE WAY THEY FOLD.EVEN IF THIS HAS NO MEANING AT ALL OR NO CLINICAL IMPORTANCE.WHAT OF KREBS CYCLE?ARENT U AMAZED THAT IT PRODUCES 38 ATP!38 ATP AND NO LESS!WHAT IF ONE WERE LESS OR ONE WERE MORE?IT WOULD STOP THESE BIOCHEMISTS IN THEIR TRACK!ANYONE GAVE A THOUGHT TO THAT?
AND WHO SIAD BIOCHEM SUCKS?SHEESH....WE HAVE REAL PESSIMISTS HERE.I SERIOUSLY HOPE EVERYONE SHARED THE LOVE FOR BIOCHEMISTRY JUST THE WAY I DO.
just kiddin dudes.....i d rather be castrated than read this....
 
quackdoc.... rock on, my friend.... you made me momentarily snap out of my fatty acid synthesis cycle stupor....
 
I loved biochem, and I say ' loved ' because we're already done with it 😀 My school owns 😎
 
johnstoner said:
I think the clotting cascade is actually pretty important in medicine in general. Well I was a biochem major so i'm not complaining...

You know it's important when more than one class touches on the subject (path, pharm, etc). What's sad is that, other than coag cascades and the pathways related to certain common biochemical diseases, most of biochem is never seen or heard from again. Kind of like 95% of neuroscience.
 
Stinger86 said:
You know it's important when more than one class touches on the subject (path, pharm, etc). What's sad is that, other than coag cascades and the pathways related to certain common biochemical diseases, most of biochem is never seen or heard from again. Kind of like 95% of neuroscience.

also we've been told several times that half (or more) of what we learn in biochem will be flat out wrong in 10 years. yay!
 
quackdoc said:
I LOVED BIOCHEM!I MEAN ALL THE INTRICATE CODES OF PROTEINS AND THE WAY THEY FOLD.EVEN IF THIS HAS NO MEANING AT ALL OR NO CLINICAL IMPORTANCE.WHAT OF KREBS CYCLE?ARENT U AMAZED THAT IT PRODUCES 38 ATP!38 ATP AND NO LESS!WHAT IF ONE WERE LESS OR ONE WERE MORE?IT WOULD STOP THESE BIOCHEMISTS IN THEIR TRACK!ANYONE GAVE A THOUGHT TO THAT?
AND WHO SIAD BIOCHEM SUCKS?SHEESH....WE HAVE REAL PESSIMISTS HERE.I SERIOUSLY HOPE EVERYONE SHARED THE LOVE FOR BIOCHEMISTRY JUST THE WAY I DO.
just kiddin dudes.....i d rather be castrated than read this....


once again, not a biochem fan, but if i'm not mistaken the Krebs cycle doesn't produce 38 ATP and no less. It produces reduced coenzymes which help produce the proton gradient that drives the production of ATP, and it produces on average 2.5 ATP per NADH and 1.5 per FADH2. So the number of ATP produced by the cycle does vary slightly. Also, I thought it was ~30 ATP/glucose in oxidative phosphorylation, including the ATP and NADH produced in glycolysis, so the ATP produced by the Krebs cycle alone would be less than that.... Sorry, I want to bash biochem too, i just want our jokes to be biochemically sound...
 
Stupid biochem and metabolism of proteins, carbohydrates and fat....Beta oxidation can kiss my ass.
 
tkdchica said:
Stupid biochem and metabolism of proteins, carbohydrates and fat....Beta oxidation can kiss my ass.
Just wondering, why does the brain do alpha-oxydation. There's no production of ATP through this, so what's the use?
 
I hate it passionately...

but SERIOUSLY, a thorough, drunken explainatin of alcohol metabolism to the large, scary girl behind you in line for the restroom at a crowded bar? It can make you some friends! :laugh:
 
Another "almost pure" memorization course....others include anatomy, micro
 
The thing that depresses me is that it's probably one of the most relevant courses we'll take. I mean, I know they're all relevant, blah de blah blah, but from what I gather it's really necessary to understand the likes of Pharmacology, etc. later on.

D'oh!
 
We refer to our biochem professor as the gate keeper of hell. On occasion when we are not feeling quite as hateful she is just called nazi.
 
Baditude said:
We refer to our biochem professor as the gate keeper of hell. On occasion when we are not feeling quite as hateful she is just called nazi.

This professor wouldn't happen to start with a T and end with a Z?
 
I'm in a PharmD program but I'm starting to HATE biochem also. There's so much info to absorb. :scared:
 
I'm with yeah on hating biochem right now. Four hours of lecture a day, 100+ pages of handouts a day, with 20 hours a week, and tests every week and a half. Stop it now!!!
 
all of us hate this idiot " Biochem. " i guess having a sleep at home is much better then attending it's class 😴

even who's studing pharmacy hate it 😀 ?????? oooooh my god
 
btchance said:
I'm with yeah on hating biochem right now. Four hours of lecture a day, 100+ pages of handouts a day, with 20 hours a week, and tests every week and a half. Stop it now!!!

It wouldn't be that bad, but when they pump out questions asking exactly how many NAD's or whatever are used at X spot or what amino acid is used with Y coenzyme, you wanna hurt someone. Hurt them bad.
 
I hate biochem so much. Over a dozen years later. I hate biochem.
Super interesting to know conceptually, feels pointless to memorize the steps though. #premed
 
The thing that depresses me is that it's probably one of the most relevant courses we'll take. I mean, I know they're all relevant, blah de blah blah, but from what I gather it's really necessary to understand the likes of Pharmacology, etc. later on.

D'oh!

No. Biochem does nothing for pharmacology.


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I LOVED BIOCHEM!I MEAN ALL THE INTRICATE CODES OF PROTEINS AND THE WAY THEY FOLD.EVEN IF THIS HAS NO MEANING AT ALL OR NO CLINICAL IMPORTANCE.WHAT OF KREBS CYCLE?ARENT U AMAZED THAT IT PRODUCES 38 ATP!38 ATP AND NO LESS!WHAT IF ONE WERE LESS OR ONE WERE MORE?IT WOULD STOP THESE BIOCHEMISTS IN THEIR TRACK!ANYONE GAVE A THOUGHT TO THAT?
AND WHO SIAD BIOCHEM SUCKS?SHEESH....WE HAVE REAL PESSIMISTS HERE.I SERIOUSLY HOPE EVERYONE SHARED THE LOVE FOR BIOCHEMISTRY JUST THE WAY I DO.
just kiddin dudes.....i d rather be castrated than read this....
good post

once again, not a biochem fan, but if i'm not mistaken the Krebs cycle doesn't produce 38 ATP and no less. It produces reduced coenzymes which help produce the proton gradient that drives the production of ATP, and it produces on average 2.5 ATP per NADH and 1.5 per FADH2. So the number of ATP produced by the cycle does vary slightly. Also, I thought it was ~30 ATP/glucose in oxidative phosphorylation, including the ATP and NADH produced in glycolysis, so the ATP produced by the Krebs cycle alone would be less than that.... Sorry, I want to bash biochem too, i just want our jokes to be biochemically sound...
Bad post
 
I just hate the fact that biochem is its own course. It's so much easier to remember with pharm and path because they highlight why biochem principles are important but just memorizing a million different pathways without all the clinical implications was pretty useless.


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How could you hate Biochem.. its easier than ochem and starts to incorporate elements of basic biology. Its a straight step down in difficulty from orgo.
 
I loved Ochem! Biochem is such a terrible class!
 
One time I was reading for biochem, and I read the line "insulin activates a phosphoprotein phosphatase, phosphorylase phosphatase 1."

I swear my eyes were activated by some pka cascade that caused them to collapse and bleed.
 
No. Biochem does nothing for pharmacology.


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Let me clarify. Some biochemistry elements are actually relevant like intracellular signaling/etc. but that gets taught it so many places that I wouldn't necessarily call it Biochemistry. When I think Biochemistry, I think more of the pathways and memorization of concepts like protein folding and some chemistry stuff that I was really good at in high school and college that I haven't use in forever.
 
One time I was reading for biochem, and I read the line "insulin activates a phosphoprotein phosphatase, phosphorylase phosphatase 1."

I swear my eyes were activated by some pka cascade that caused them to collapse and bleed.
lol i'm dying
 
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