The *OFFICIAL* 2007-2008 EM Match Interviews REJECTED Thread

[RockfordWF]

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For all of you unlucky ones out there, we need a thread too. Hopefully we'll be making posts on the OTHER thread soon...

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF

 

[chumbojumbo]

add me to that list por favor

 

[RockfordWF]

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo

 

[EM OR BUST]

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST

 

[RockfordWF]

Is New Orleans the only residency sending out rejections right now?

 

[medicRN669]

I reckon they are..lol

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669

 

[that dr. jack]

added to the list...i seriously feel better knowing that i'm not the only one to get rejected so early from them...

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack

 

[EM2BE]

They seem like a cruel place!

 

[ManchesterDoc]

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, ManchesterDoc

 

[RockfordWF]

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

 

[jazz27]

How can they send rejections when your applications are not complete? They haven't seen your Dean's letter. Can they really do that?

 

[RockfordWF]

How can they send rejections when your applications are not complete? They haven't seen your Dean's letter. Can they really do that?

Yes. If your board scores suck, you are toast.

 

[zinjanthropus]

Yes. If your board scores suck, you are toast.

allopathic vs. the rest, board scores = 2 ways to send out rejection letters early on

has anyone other than LSU-New Orleans started rejecting?

 

[EM OR BUST]

allopathic vs. the rest, board scores = 2 ways to send out rejection letters early on

has anyone other than LSU-New Orleans started rejecting?

Texas Tech- not really a rejection but a new change in policy. IMGs cant be interviewed until ECFMG certified which cant happen until you send them your diploma

 

[BKN]

Texas Tech- not really a rejection but a new change in policy. IMGs cant be interviewed until ECFMG certified which cant happen until you send them your diploma

I'm sorry about that. Tex Med Board won't issue training permit until ECFMG certified. There have been problems getting that all done by 1 July if graduated in May or June. Next year if you're still looking.

 

[EctopicFetus]

I dont know much about TT but their PD seems like a great guy!

 

[jazz27]

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc
Allegheny (Penn)-- jazz27

 

[ziffy 850]

rejected today-no mississippi for me

 

[RockfordWF]

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

 

[dkpwalker]

sinai-grace today

 

[ManchesterDoc]

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

WSU/Sinai-Grace -- dkpwalker, ManchesterDoc

 

[ManchesterDoc]

Albany (NY) -- ManchesterDoc

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

WSU/Sinai-Grace -- dkpwalker, ManchesterDoc

 

[RockfordWF]

These rejections before the Dean's letter or some recommendation letters are in make it clear that the board scores are all some programs care about...

 

[zinjanthropus]

These rejections before the Dean's letter or some recommendation letters are in make it clear that the board scores are all some programs care about...

also some programs reject osteopathic and FMGs right off the bat as well (I'm not condoning this, just noting it - and I have no knowledge about the programs specifically listed in this thread)

 

[RockfordWF]

also some programs reject osteopathic and FMGs right off the bat as well (I'm not condoning this, just noting it - and I have no knowledge about the programs specifically listed in this thread)

I have high board scores, and can only assume that LSU-NO rejected me due to that very reason. It is ironic, however, considering the fact that they have DO's in the programs. My friend who graduated from there this summer was the first one they had ever taken.

 

[hyperbaric]

I have high board scores, and can only assume that LSU-NO rejected me due to that very reason. It is ironic, however, considering the fact that they have a DO in the program. Of course he was the first one they had ever taken.

Not true. LSU-NO has a long history of DO's in their program.

 

[EM OR BUST]

Albany (NY) -- ManchesterDoc, EM OR BUST

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

WSU/Sinai-Grace -- dkpwalker, ManchesterDoc[/quote]

 

[RockfordWF]

Not true. LSU-NO has a long history of DO's in their program.

That's interesting, since my friend who actually graduated from there this summer told me he was their first DO. The class after him (the current PGY-4 class) has zero DO's.

Since that time, it appears as though they began accepting more DO's and even Caribbean grads.

 

[hyperbaric]

That's interesting, since my friend who actually graduated from there this summer told me he was their first DO. The class after him (the current PGY-4 class) has zero DO's.

Since that time, it appears as though they began accepting more DO's and even Caribbean grads.

I recently met a former (DO) chief resident from there. Don't recall his exact year of graduation from the program, but I know that he has been in practice >5 yrs.

It has only been a few (3-4?) years that Louisiana has accepted the COMLEX for licensure. I suspect that has something to do with it.

 

[RockfordWF]

I recently met a former (DO) chief resident from there. Don't recall his exact year of graduation from the program, but I know that he has been in practice >5 yrs.

It has only been a few (3-4?) years that Louisiana has accepted the COMLEX for licensure. I suspect that has something to do with it.

They must reject people randomly then, because I only had half my application in (including my high COMLEX score) and they sent me a rejection.

 

[medicRN669]

I sorta thought they wanted USMLE also, and figured I was rejected because I only had COMLEX, but at least they told me no..lol, now I dont have to wait on them.

 

[RockfordWF]

I sorta thought they wanted USMLE also, and figured I was rejected because I only had COMLEX, but at least they told me no..lol, now I dont have to wait on them.

I sent them steps I and II of USMLE, and I had an average score.

They are the only residency program that won't return my emails also.

For the record, I have 5 allopathic interviews and a couple at far superior programs to this one. I'm not sure what their issue is, but I'm kinda relieved as I didn't want to live in that area and train for an extra year.

 

[2bnevryorfis]

Albany (NY) -- ManchesterDoc, EM OR BUST, 2bnevryorfis

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

WSU/Sinai-Grace -- dkpwalker, ManchesterDoc

 

[hyperbaric]

I sent them steps I and II of USMLE, and I had an average score.

They are the only residency program that won't return my emails also.

For the record, I have 5 allopathic interviews and a couple at far superior programs to this one. I'm not sure what their issue is, but I'm kinda relieved as I didn't want to live in that area and train for an extra year.

For the record, I am in no way affiliated with that program.

But, you may want be careful with your comments. You will frequently hear it said that EM is a small community. Last year at SAEM, a program director spoke specifically about candidates not being as anonymous on an 'internet forum' as they would like to think.

 

[chumbojumbo]

Albany (NY) -- ManchesterDoc, EM OR BUST, 2bnevryorfis

Allegheny (PA)-- jazz27

LSUHSC-New Orleans (LA) -- RockfordWF, chumbojumbo, EM OR BUST, medicRN669, that dr. jack, ManchesterDoc

Mississippi -- ziffy 850

WSU/Sinai-Grace -- dkpwalker, ManchesterDoc

USF/Tampa-- chumbojumbo

 

[Bring It On]

Three of these schools do take FMG.....look up their websites.

 

[HokiMD]

I sent them steps I and II of USMLE, and I had an average score.

They are the only residency program that won't return my emails also.

For the record, I have 5 allopathic interviews and a couple at far superior programs to this one. I'm not sure what their issue is, but I'm kinda relieved as I didn't want to live in that area and train for an extra year.

A program validating why they select an applicant is like a man validating his girlfriend, its all in the eye of the beholder. You will be surprised at some programs that reject people why other "superior" programs interview same said applicant. its all part of the process. When you have 100s of applicants that are all essentially the same, its just personal taste as to what each program wants, nothing more.

 

[RockfordWF]

I heard this from someone close to LSU-NO:

"The program has bounced back since Katrina and is considered top tier. They received so many apps in the first week that they set the USMLE cutoff VERY high. They have had HUNDREDS of applicants with 240+ on both boards. There are not many other things a program can do to screen people out when they have 750 applications....can't expect them to go through them all. They are not FMG friendly either, as they have one right now, and he is their first Caribbean grad ever."

 

[Apollyon]

I heard this from someone close to LSU-NO:

"The program has bounced back since Katrina and is considered top tier. They received so many apps in the first week that they set the USMLE cutoff VERY high. They have had HUNDREDS of applicants with 240+ on both boards. There are not many other things a program can do to screen people out when they have 750 applications....can't expect them to go through them all. They are not FMG friendly either, as they have one right now, and he is their first Caribbean grad ever."

Not close enough, as both 2005 and 2006 had people that went to St. George's with me (and didn't transfer out), which is still in the Caribbean. The current AUC guy is NOT "their first Caribbean grad ever".

 

[shawred]

I heard this from someone close to LSU-NO:

"The program has bounced back since Katrina and is considered top tier. They received so many apps in the first week that they set the USMLE cutoff VERY high. They have had HUNDREDS of applicants with 240+ on both boards. There are not many other things a program can do to screen people out when they have 750 applications....can't expect them to go through them all. They are not FMG friendly either, as they have one right now, and he is their first Caribbean grad ever."

VERY high USMLE cutoff? Hmmm. I must have slipped through. I am not close to 240+ on both boards. I am assuming your source is unreliable.

 

[ditch doctor]

Not close enough, as both 2005 and 2006 had people that went to St. George's with me (and didn't transfer out), which is still in the Caribbean. The current AUC guy is NOT "their first Caribbean grad ever".

According to EMRA he's the first guy in the past 5 years. Also, they have a listing of their residents on the LSU-NO homepage and there aren't any other FMGs. LSU-SH and LSU-BR have taken lotsa FMGs. Still, I can't imagine it's the *first* IMG ever at LSU-NO, though. They do have like 4 or 5 DO's (didn't feel like recounting) in multiple years, so they seem pretty DO friendly. I interviewed their last year, their new ED was nice, and the PD was cool and laid back.

Maybe the high cutoffs (240+) is for Carib's/DO's and not for allopathic; and also I suspect it is probably more like 220/230, not 240. Scuttlebut is that EVERYONE is getting 600+ applications this year. With electronic submission it's easy (albeit expensive) to apply to 40-50 programs. Although, 220+ is reasonable even for allos; last year EM went 99.5% matched, which are Ortho/Derm/Optho type numbers, thank God there are a bunch more spots in EM.

 

[that dr. jack]

According to EMRA he's the first guy (or girl?) in the past 5 years. Also, they have a listing of their residents on the LSU-NO homepage and there aren't any other FMGs. LSU-SH and LSU-BR have taken lotsa FMGs. Still, I can't imagine it's the *first* IMG ever at LSU-NO, though. They do have like 4 or 5 DO's (didn't feel like recounting) in multiple years, so they seem pretty DO friendly. I interviewed their last year, their new ED was nice, and the PD was cool and laid back.

Maybe the high cutoffs (240+) is for Carib's/DO's and not for allopathic; and also I suspect it is probably more like 220/230, not 240. Scuttlebut is that EVERYONE is getting 600+ applications this year. With electronic submission it's easy (albeit expensive) to apply to 40-50 programs. Although, 220+ is reasonable even for allos; last year EM went 99.5% matched, which are Ortho/Derm/Optho type numbers, thank God their are a bunch more spots in EM.

well, that explains why i got the axe from them (DO, kinda sucky step 1 although decent step 2). it helps a lot to know the likely reason, cuz i was a bit sad and wondered if it was my picture that offended them or something.

 

[Apollyon]

According to EMRA he's the first guy (or girl?) in the past 5 years.

Ah, I see where the disconnect is. One guy from St. George's started 2001 and finished 2005, and the woman was 2002-2006. From that angle, first in 5 years.

The 2005 guy may be the "first Caribbean grad ever" - not sure. In addition, he's Canadian, and also a Pharm.D. (from SUNY-Buffalo).

 

[EM_Rebuilder]

I heard this from someone close to LSU-NO:

"The program has bounced back since Katrina and is considered top tier. They received so many apps in the first week that they set the USMLE cutoff VERY high. They have had HUNDREDS of applicants with 240+ on both boards. There are not many other things a program can do to screen people out when they have 750 applications....can't expect them to go through them all. They are not FMG friendly either, as they have one right now, and he is their first Caribbean grad ever."

I was FAR frm that cutoff last year and they offered me an interview last year.... I canceled it late in the season though after I went to BR and saw the shambles that NO was still in.

I think they get lots of apps b/c people just wanted to go see NO....I figure the Vegas program gets over applied to for vacation reasons. I'll admit I applied to Vegas just for the hopes of a 'vacation' with no intentions of going there...

 

[EM2BE]

awww...hopefully you'll get to post more in the other thread soon chumbo!

 

[AmoryBlaine]

For the record, I am in no way affiliated with that program.

But, you may want be careful with your comments. You will frequently hear it said that EM is a small community. Last year at SAEM, a program director spoke specifically about candidates not being as anonymous on an 'internet forum' as they would like to think.

Especially when the candidate in question has the name of a city in his screen name...

 

[zinjanthropus]

Especially when the candidate in question has the name of a city in his screen name...

well, i don't think he said anything unprofessional or offensive

 

[drbon]

Ah, I see where the disconnect is. One guy from St. George's started 2001 and finished 2005, and the woman was 2002-2006. From that angle, first in 5 years.

The 2005 guy may be the "first Caribbean grad ever" - not sure. In addition, he's Canadian, and also a Pharm.D. (from SUNY-Buffalo).

wow, i hope you know that guy personally or that's some very creepy level research you got going on there

 

[Apollyon]

wow, i hope you know that guy personally or that's some very creepy level research you got going on there

Oh, yeah, I do. At one of the intro/meet parties when med school started, I was wearing this shirt from a Toronto radio station, and I'm originally from Buffalo, so that's how the connection was made.

 

[DrQuinn]

Not close enough, as both 2005 and 2006 had people that went to St. George's with me (and didn't transfer out), which is still in the Caribbean. The current AUC guy is NOT "their first Caribbean grad ever".

Actually, one of my attendings in residency graduated from LSU-NO Charity, but this was maybe 3-5 years before I started residency (2003). So that would make him maybe the class of 1996-2000. Not sure which school he went to, but he definately was a Carib grad.

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