The Official 3/23/13 MCAT Thread

[Redpancreas]

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Figured I'd start this one out. I'll be registering for the MCAT first thing tomorrow. Who else is taking it on this date? How do you all plan on studying over the school year?

 

[sworzeh]

That wouldn't really give you a great shot at MDs would it? I'm not entirely sure what the range for DO is but wouldn't that give you a decent shot at DO but not MD

Yeah, I would save the money rather than applying with a 25 to MD schools. It has been done, but I'm not that much of a gambler.

 

[Albein]

Yeah, I would save the money rather than applying with a 25 to MD schools. It has been done, but I'm not that much of a gambler.

Haha I tend to agree with you. Hopefully I don't come to that because I've been told by a lot of advisers that taking this beast 3 times is frowned upon.

 

[hope2b62a]

That's another thing - I've also heard taking it over and over looks bad. That might be a rumor, though. Maybe it shows tenacity? 👍 I also know four people from my undergrad class years back who got into MD programs with scores in the 27-29 range and I didn't pay a lot of attention to most of the neurotic behavior related to application back then. Don't take my word for it...look at the statistics that AMA puts out. People who apply with an MCAT score in the 24-26 range with a GPA north of 3.5 have a 24% acceptance rate. For those with scores in the 27-29 range with the same GPA, 49.8% have been accepted. The reality is, according to the numbers, if you have an MCAT score in the 27-29 range and a GPA above 3.5, you still have a 1 in 2 change of getting accepted, historically (Note that I am using the statistics for the "White" racial group so check the other charts, if necessary.)

 

[AlabamaPop]

That's another thing - I've also heard taking it over and over looks bad. That might be a rumor, though. Maybe it shows tenacity? 👍 I also know four people from my undergrad class years back who got into MD programs with scores in the 27-29 range and I didn't pay a lot of attention to most of the neurotic behavior related to application back then. Don't take my word for it...look at the statistics that AMA puts out. People who apply with an MCAT score in the 24-26 range with a GPA north of 3.5 have a 24% acceptance rate. For those with scores in the 27-29 range with the same GPA, 49.8% have been accepted. The reality is, according to the numbers, if you have an MCAT score in the 27-29 range and a GPA above 3.5, you still have a 1 in 2 change of getting accepted, historically (Note that I am using the statistics for the "White" racial group so check the other charts, if necessary.)

Thats why people should still apply *smartly and early* and try it out. Can't listen to neurotic and uninformed premeds who only believe MD is ONLY for 3.5+ and 30+

 

[Albein]

That's another thing - I've also heard taking it over and over looks bad. That might be a rumor, though. Maybe it shows tenacity? 👍 I also know four people from my undergrad class years back who got into MD programs with scores in the 27-29 range and I didn't pay a lot of attention to most of the neurotic behavior related to application back then. Don't take my word for it...look at the statistics that AMA puts out. People who apply with an MCAT score in the 24-26 range with a GPA north of 3.5 have a 24% acceptance rate. For those with scores in the 27-29 range with the same GPA, 49.8% have been accepted. The reality is, according to the numbers, if you have an MCAT score in the 27-29 range and a GPA above 3.5, you still have a 1 in 2 change of getting accepted, historically (Note that I am using the statistics for the "White" racial group so check the other charts, if necessary.)

I wish I would've remembered to ask my adviser that today. I have my second go around tomorrow and while reviewing things today, I started to blank and breakdown. Now I don't think there's anything stopping me from taking it tomorrow but with a less than stellar GPA, I'm curious what a 3rd take if tomorrow doesn't work out, will look like

 

[MTHFR]

I wish I would've remembered to ask my adviser that today. I have my second go around tomorrow and while reviewing things today, I started to blank and breakdown. Now I don't think there's anything stopping me from taking it tomorrow but with a less than stellar GPA, I'm curious what a 3rd take if tomorrow doesn't work out, will look like

You NEED to be positive going into it. Just remember that this does not test you on rote memorization, and most things can be found in the passage. Do your best to understand the passage and eliminate wrong answers to give yourself a better chance should you need to guess. Hit the passages you feel comfortable with first to make sure you get the points you should, being they all count the same. I spent too much time on passages testing areas I was somewhat deficient in and had to speed through passages testing content I should have easily gotten every question right in. Again, confidence is big. Believe in yourself!

G'luck!

 

[Albein]

You NEED to be positive going into it. Just remember that this does not test you on rote memorization, and most things can be found in the passage. Do your best to understand the passage and eliminate wrong answers to give yourself a better chance should you need to guess. Hit the passages you feel comfortable with first to make sure you get the points you should, being they all count the same. I spent too much time on passages testing areas I was somewhat deficient in and had to speed through passages testing content I should have easily gotten every question right in. Again, confidence is big. Believe in yourself!

G'luck!

Thank you. I was feeling fine until I thought information was leaking out and then went back to the books and it got worse. Closed them now and just memorizing formulas for the tutorial section where I dump them and that's it. The rest I hope comes to me when I read the question.

 

[pablosohn]

Several of my friends broke 35+. I sometimes wish/wonder if I didn't void the test, but there's no use over thinking that. I'm still trying to figure out what I am going to do in terms of the next MCAT test date. Will register for sure before the change happens. Taking 1 gap year. Need to figure out what I'm going to do for that year. Also, will need to schedule time to re-study, and start reading more articles.

 

[Alwayshungry]

Hey everybody. First post here!
My average score for my aamc FLs were 29.5 but I ended up scoring a 32 somehow. I had no upward trend in my practice tests and i couldn't figure out why, but i kept studying and trying to improve.
The only reason I'm sharing this is because I don't want people who are capable of scoring well on this test to give up and lose hope. Keep trying and as long as you understand why you are making the mistakes you're making, you will go far. Sorry if I sound cliche but I truly believe this and I hope this could motivate at least one person out there. I even made an account just to write this lol

 

[tibetanowl]

wow. my score on this test was lower than I ever scored on a practice test, ever. I don't even....🙁🙁🙁

 

[MTHFR]

wow. my score on this test was lower than I ever scored on a practice test, ever. I don't even....🙁🙁🙁

Me too. Back at it again.

 

[NuttyEngDude]

i'm suffering from some minor neurotic moments and thinking of retaking but i think it would be too difficult to work it all in for this cycle. have you guys thought about a test date and if it's "good" for this cycle? june 20 would have been ideal with july seeming to mean test scores in august and completed application by sept right?

 

[Captain Sisko]

i'm suffering from some minor neurotic moments and thinking of retaking but i think it would be too difficult to work it all in for this cycle. have you guys thought about a test date and if it's "good" for this cycle? june 20 would have been ideal with july seeming to mean test scores in august and completed application by sept right?

NED you're fine as is. If you're ok with Osteo and apply broadly I don't think you'll have a problem. Each of us has our own goals for this test, but each of us has our own broader goals too. Don't lose sight of yours- if you can accomplish the one, don't get caught up chasing the other. Good luck buddy- you'll figure out what's best for you in the end 🙂

 

[LaughingMan]

NED you're fine as is. If you're ok with Osteo and apply broadly I don't think you'll have a problem. Each of us has our own goals for this test, but each of us has our own broader goals too. Don't lose sight of yours- if you can accomplish the one, don't get caught up chasing the other. Good luck buddy- you'll figure out what's best for you in the end 🙂

Great Advice. 👍👍

 

[NuttyEngDude]

NED you're fine as is. If you're ok with Osteo and apply broadly I don't think you'll have a problem. Each of us has our own goals for this test, but each of us has our own broader goals too. Don't lose sight of yours- if you can accomplish the one, don't get caught up chasing the other. Good luck buddy- you'll figure out what's best for you in the end 🙂

Great Advice. 👍👍

You guys are right, thank you for setting me straight. Sorry for the neuroticism, this stuff has a way of doing it to you. 😛

 

[Redpancreas]

You guys are right, thank you for setting me straight. Sorry for the neuroticism, this stuff has a way of doing it to you. 😛

No need to apologize but I concur NED. Better start mobilizing the forces for app cycle! Info comes out in 3-4 days!

 

[Caroline3690]

I've been following this feed, but I'm a first time poster (still getting the hang of SDN).
Congratulations to everyone! You should all be proud!
I'm taking the MCAT for the first time on 5/11- just wanted to get some gentile but honest feedback from some veterans!

Practice FL's in chronological order
Kaplan 6- 31 -- P9/V11/B11
took a long break
AAMC 9- 25 -- P7/V8/B10
AAMC 8- 26 -- P9/V8/B9
Kaplan 10- 31 -- P9/V12/B10
AAMC 10- 27 -- P8/V9/B10
AAMC 11- ?
Goal score: 30-32

I have revamped my study tactics as of last week to focus on flash cards, a daily verbal passage, and drilling material in my weak topics. I expect my score to go up for AAMC 11 and the real exam. My raw scores (% correct) are improving dramatically however, the discrepancy in scaling between each Kaplan test and each AAMC test is driving me nuts. I'm reaching standard neurotic pre-med panic mode.

Bucknell University grad
Major= Neuroscience Minor=Spanish
cGPA= 3.45 sGPA=3.42
Currently a Postbac at NIH
2 Scientific Publications
Shadowing cardio-thoracic surgery at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center
Applying to be a hospital scribe
Medical related service work in Central America and Africa
Various other awards/extracurriculars

... Would be more than satisfied with a mid tier MD

 

[Entadus]

I'm tired of all of this nonsense that's going on in this thread right now so I will attempt to put it to rest.

Let me list a series of events from my perspective:

1) Entadus took 8 practice tests. 5 of his 8 practice tests were above a 40. None were below a 38, which were his first two tests. His latter tests are all 40+.
2) He takes the real thing and receives a 36 and is disappointed.
3) A bunch of randoms log in and bash him for being disappointed.

With that said, let's move on...

Given the facts in #1, I would actually question his drive if he weren't disappointed. He took a bunch of tests (that are supposed to be indicators of how he will score), set a goal based on those results, and then his performance came up short on both. It is clear that (as it should be for everyone attempting to become a doctor) he isn't satisfied with having "a good enough score". Sure, people would give up a lot to get a 36, but that doesn't mean he should be thrilled himself. He felt like he underperformed (and he did) and based on this thread, that is apparently okay in this world - we wouldn't want gunners (ya know, the people who actually give two ****s) would we?

It's sickening to know that there are people who are trying to be doctors in this world who are bashing someone for not being content with not reaching their goals and expectations.

It's important to point out that he went through this cycle last year. He didn't get accepted. You bet he damn well has a chip on his shoulder about this whole situation.



If this talk doesn't end, I'm out. I will inform all the "regulars" of a private subreddit if they still want to continue the highly supportive thread that we had during the studying process.

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Note: This isn't trying to say the "regulars" are better than the new people, but the 3/23 was the most genuinely supportive thread I've seen on SDN. No one that was a part of that thread would bash Entadus for being disappointed for not reaching his goal. It's discusting.

Entadus was nothing, but respectful during the whole process and I think you all owe him the same. I was originally testing here and he told us he applied last year and wasn't admitted into his schools for whatever reasons. To those of you who didn't know his story, please keep your judgements to yourself. He has schools he was aiming for and it didn't work the first time around. If I was in his position and hitting a ridiculous amount of 40s on practice tests, I would be disappointed too. His score is good yes but I would still be disappointed. That doesn't give you the right to bash him. We all have different goals and the practice tests are there to tell you what you can roughly expect barring something crazy. Don't bash him for thinking he did below what he's capable of.

Sometimes underperforming happens. Everyone here is human and sometimes we don't meet expectation. What's important is to accept that sometimes things don't go as planned which Entadus has. As a doctor, things will happen that he will be unhappy with but he won't be able to do anything about. It's just how life works and it's important that he's not freaking out.

No one should be bashing anyone for being disappointed they didn't reach their goals. Setting high expectations is good because it makes us try to do well. I'd be surprised if anyone in this thread was not at least a little disappointed in at least one part of their MCAT. Everyone always wishes they could have done at least a little better. Wanting perfection is part of being human.

agree agree agree! Entadus, youre inspiring and i support you and your disappointment! Shoot for the moon, even if you miss youll end up among the stars. You did really incredibly well, and the disappointment is just a side effect of your super hard work and dedication. I think as the weeks go on the disappointment will fade and youll begin to realize that you are going to have an INCREDIBLE application season, and your dreams of going to a top med school will come true.

Thanks for the support guys. It's easy to bash people over an anonymous forum, but it's also possible to inspire others. I'm glad for every word you guys write here.

This is awesome. A bunch of pre-med type A's arguing about Entadus. Everyone thinks they are right. Everyone thinks that their advise is the best for Entadus.

Also, a person scoring in the 95% asking for advice. Also amusing.

I'm glad I was able to entertain you. The pre-med word, and indeed the entire universe, revolve around Entadus. Welcome to the fanclub

 

[NuttyEngDude]

I'm glad I was able to entertain you. The pre-med word, and indeed the entire universe, revolve around Entadus. Welcome to the fanclub

for what it's worth Entadus, I am in your fan club 🙂

I've been following this feed, but I'm a first time poster (still getting the hang of SDN).
Congratulations to everyone! You should all be proud!
I'm taking the MCAT for the first time on 5/11- just wanted to get some gentile but honest feedback from some veterans!

I think I qualify as a non-jew so will offer my honest feedback

Practice FL's in chronological order
Kaplan 6- 31 -- P9/V11/B11
took a long break
AAMC 9- 25 -- P7/V8/B10
AAMC 8- 26 -- P9/V8/B9
Kaplan 10- 31 -- P9/V12/B10
AAMC 10- 27 -- P8/V9/B10
AAMC 11- ?
Goal score: 30-32

.... the discrepancy in scaling between each Kaplan test and each AAMC test is driving me nuts....

Use the TPR and kaplan tests as tests to discover weaknesses not tests that predict score. once you know this, drill those topics hard using TBR passages, TPR SWB or qbank -- PS seems to be what's giving most test dates fits right now so either choose to work on that (happens to be your weakness by the looks of it, or choose to solidify your strengths looks to be bio/orgo). do verbal every day.

with less than 2 weeks left, make a choice to either shore up your strengths or continue with your weaknesses. either way, solidify your strengths in the last week.

 

[Caroline3690]

for what it's worth Entadus, I am in your fan club 🙂



I think I qualify as a non-jew so will offer my honest feedback


Use the TPR and kaplan tests as tests to discover weaknesses not tests that predict score. once you know this, drill those topics hard using TBR passages, TPR SWB or qbank -- PS seems to be what's giving most test dates fits right now so either choose to work on that (happens to be your weakness by the looks of it, or choose to solidify your strengths looks to be bio/orgo). do verbal every day.

with less than 2 weeks left, make a choice to either shore up your strengths or continue with your weaknesses. either way, solidify your strengths in the last week.

Thanks for the advice. How do you feel about Exam Crackers?

I meant gentle*** Sorry, long day of studying. 😉

 

[NuttyEngDude]

i only had their verbal 101 book, liked it but found it frustrating sometimes, worth it though. use it!

their other stuff looked good but i didnt use it. their bio is great. audio osmosis is a really good, if underrated product because of the jokes.

 

[Caroline3690]

Okay cool. Thank you!

 

[NuttyEngDude]

no prob, good luck! btw, take #11 sooner rather than later 😉

 

[Redpancreas]

Thanks for the advice. How do you feel about Exam Crackers?

I meant gentle*** Sorry, long day of studying. 😉

Take 11 soon!

Also take all the Self Assessments as practice and purchase the AAMC Guide to the MCAT and do all those! Do as much legitimate material as possible before the real thing!


Lol, I checked AAMC and it was down and today I had a dream that it was down and when I checked my email there was a note saying that the MCAT site had been hacked and MCAT scores were swapped! (it ended there)

 

[Captain Sisko]

Take 11 soon!

Also take all the Self Assessments as practice and purchase the AAMC Guide to the MCAT and do all those! Do as much legitimate material as possible before the real thing!


Lol, I checked AAMC and it was down and today I had a dream that it was down and when I checked my email there was a note saying that the MCAT site had been hacked and MCAT scores were swapped! (it ended there)

haha yeah part of me retains some dim hope that there was an issue with their answer key for the VR section that they discovered some time after scores were released (now). It'd make for some good drama, whether or not they'd be all ethical and change everyone's scores, or if there'd be some internal wing within the AAMC that would put a quash on that "in order to preserve the legitimacy..." haha how's that for a conspiracy theory? Seriously though, it seemed like a lot of people scored a couple points below their verbal average on this one. Damned if I'll be dragged into that whole mcat lanscape is changing debate though!

 

[NuttyEngDude]

No need to apologize but I concur NED. Better start mobilizing the forces for app cycle! Info comes out in 3-4 days!

thanks, but what info comes out?? 😳

 

[plumazul]

thanks, but what info comes out?? 😳

I don't know what the other user meant, but the 2013/14 resources were online as of April 1 and the application goes live on May 8th at 9:30am ET. First day of submission is still June 4!

 

[Redpancreas]

I don't know what the other user meant, but the 2013/14 resources were online as of April 1 and the application goes live on May 8th at 9:30am ET. First day of submission is still June 4!

👍👍👍

Sorry for the confusion! I didn't know. I thought it opened May 1st and started June 1st. Technically you can start April 1st. My bad!

 

[MedGrl@2022]

👍👍👍

Sorry for the confusion! I didn't know. I thought it opened May 1st and started June 1st. Technically you can start April 1st. My bad!

How can you start April 1st? Can you start sending your transcripts and stuff to AMCAS?

Thanks for your help!

 

[Jr MD]

Hey all

I'm sticking to my home thread here the 427ers are just bashing each other lol so I took my MCAT this past Saturday and it went well... Now what????

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[Captain Sisko]

Hey all

I'm sticking to my home thread here the 427ers are just bashing each other lol so I took my MCAT this past Saturday and it went well... Now what????

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

Breathe, relax, and try not to think about your performance.

 

[Albein]

Hey all

I'm sticking to my home thread here the 427ers are just bashing each other lol so I took my MCAT this past Saturday and it went well... Now what????

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

👍

 

[MedGrl@2022]

Hey all

I'm sticking to my home thread here the 427ers are just bashing each other lol so I took my MCAT this past Saturday and it went well... Now what????

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

work on your application... do whatever you need to do to ensure your acceptance into medical school... 🙂

 

[Entadus]

I'm choosing schools... the question is how many?

I'm trying to be realistic and pick a number I can actually manage to complete. I'm leaning towards 16 schools. CA resident

California (7)
*UC Irvine
*UC Davis
*UCLA
*UCSD
*UCSF
UC Riverside
Univ. Southern California (private)

OOS: (9)
*Mt Sinai
NYU
NYMC
Rochester
Columbia
MC Wisc.
Creighton(Nebraska)
Tufts
Dartmouth

(*) the 6 schools I am reapplying to.
I'm considering adding Einstein, Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt. Are any of my picks too reachy for someone with little research (no pubs)?

Are any of these a bad idea? Any additions?

 

[Captain Sisko]

I'm choosing schools... the question is how many?

I'm trying to be realistic and pick a number I can actually manage to complete. I'm leaning towards 16 schools. CA resident

California (7)
*UC Irvine
*UC Davis
*UCLA
*UCSD
*UCSF
UC Riverside
Univ. Southern California (private)

OOS: (9)
*Mt Sinai
NYU
NYMC
Rochester
Columbia
MC Wisc.
Creighton(Nebraska)
Tufts
Dartmouth

(*) the 6 schools I am reapplying to.
I'm considering adding Einstein, Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt. Are any of my picks too reachy for someone with little research (no pubs)?

Are any of these a bad idea? Any additions?

Certain Midwest public schools are oos friendly. Osu Michigan and Cincinnati come to mind. I've been told Wisconsin at Madison is oos friendly too. Maybe add Rush as a safety? It's a lower stats private in Chicago. I will apply to all the schools I've mentioned.

 

[Entadus]

Certain Midwest public schools are oos friendly. Osu Michigan and Cincinnati come to mind. I've been told Wisconsin at Madison is oos friendly too. Maybe add Rush as a safety? It's a lower stats private in Chicago. I will apply to all the schools I've mentioned.

I heard a rumor that U Michigan was looking for publications. I will consider Rush and OSU. U of Cincinnati is looking very appealing. Thanks for the advice

Should I even bother applying to Columbia?

 

[Back 5]

How can you start April 1st? Can you start sending your transcripts and stuff to AMCAS?

Thanks for your help!

AMCAS starts May 8.

AACOMAS starts May 1.

 

[medic86]

I heard a rumor that U Michigan was looking for publications. I will consider Rush and OSU. U of Cincinnati is looking very appealing. Thanks for the advice

Should I even bother applying to Columbia?

Can't hurt to apply to some reach schools, IMO.

 

[Sphenoid927]

Hey all

I'm sticking to my home thread here the 427ers are just bashing each other lol so I took my MCAT this past Saturday and it went well... Now what????

Sent from my Nexus 7 using SDN Mobile

4/27 tester here, too. This forum is more active as is 4/26. There was some judgmental bs happening on the other thread, too, that I felt the need to comment on myself, but then just backed away. It's not worth my time or energy anyway. I am sure it will fizzle out, though.

I am keeping myself busy with coursework and hoping my test amnesia holds out. The last thing I want to do is remember question after question and keep looking things up and getting myself worked up. Just try to relax and busy yourself with other things. Hard to do when so much depends on this test score, but at least we are all in the boat and can try to offer suggestions.

 

[hope2b62a]

4/27 tester here, too. This forum is more active as is 4/26. There was some judgmental bs happening on the other thread, too, that I felt the need to comment on myself, but then just backed away. It's not worth my time or energy anyway. I am sure it will fizzle out, though.

I am keeping myself busy with coursework and hoping my test amnesia holds out. The last thing I want to do is remember question after question and keep looking things up and getting myself worked up. Just try to relax and busy yourself with other things. Hard to do when so much depends on this test score, but at least we are all in the boat and can try to offer suggestions.

One thing I can recommend is NOT looking answers up. I had myself convinced that I had done way worse on BS after trying to look things up to the best of my recollection of the exam (Which was poor.) Don't torture yourselves. 😉

 

[BMEng]

I second that! DON'T LOOK UP ANSWERS AFTER. I looked up BS answers and knew (based on what I could remember) that I had gotten 3 wrong. And those were only the ones I could remember, so I was freaking out for the last month about my BS score... Turns out that was my best section. I got a 15.

Best advice is to completely forgot about the test until your scores come out.

 

[MedGrl@2022]

I second that! DON'T LOOK UP ANSWERS AFTER. I looked up BS answers and knew (based on what I could remember) that I had gotten 3 wrong. And those were only the ones I could remember, so I was freaking out for the last month about my BS score... Turns out that was my best section. I got a 15.

Best advice is to completely forgot about the test until your scores come out.

Wow... that is awesome! I hope I got a 15 in Biology... I can't remember anything that I got wrong in biology... I just hope I understood all the passages correctly...

9 PS 10 VR and 15 BS might look weird to medical schools though... right? 😛

 

[Sphenoid927]

I second that! DON'T LOOK UP ANSWERS AFTER. I looked up BS answers and knew (based on what I could remember) that I had gotten 3 wrong. And those were only the ones I could remember, so I was freaking out for the last month about my BS score... Turns out that was my best section. I got a 15.

Best advice is to completely forgot about the test until your scores come out.

AWESOME BS score! Clearly can't do any better than that.

I tested on Saturday and have little recollection of it but every now and then I will be studying for school and something will remind me of something that may or may not have been on the MCAT and I purposely move on to something else as quickly as I can. I will do everything in my power to put the information out of my head because I do not want to be freaking out in the next month. I freaked out enough before the exam and now I have to focus on school and other things and I will not be dominated by the MCAT anymore. Not to mention I have the bad habit of looking up answers after school tests and the habit is starting to annoy me. It's useless. What's done is done and I will find out how I did eventually. At least, though, with school exams we can find out exactly what we got wrong. However, I don't care anymore. I can just hope for a nice balanced score and not have to retake.

 

[Sphenoid927]

9 PS 10 VR and 15 BS might look weird to medical schools though... right? 😛

It may look weird, but I'd take it!

 

[MedGrl@2022]

It may look weird, but I'd take it!

ditto! 🙂

 

[MacNCheesy]

I heard a rumor that U Michigan was looking for publications. I will consider Rush and OSU. U of Cincinnati is looking very appealing. Thanks for the advice

Should I even bother applying to Columbia?

Plenty of students at U Mich don't have publications. It's definitely not a requirement. I got in there and I didn't have any.

 

[Entadus]

Plenty of students at U Mich don't have publications. It's definitely not a requirement. I got in there and I didn't have any.

I'm considering Michigan, I wonder if a Cali fellow like myself can handle the weather there (?) 🙂

EDIT: Adding Michigan and Cincinnati to my list, possibly removing USC. May add Einstein.

 

[LiamNeesons]

Good luck you brave, brave souls.

 

[Redpancreas]

Plenty of students at U Mich don't have publications. It's definitely not a requirement. I got in there and I didn't have any.

@ Entadus: You'll survive the MI if you end up coming here. It's not as bad as it's chalked up to be.

For myself, I'm applying (In state) to UMich w/ a 34/3.8. See my WAMC if you want. Do I have a chance with no significant research experience?

 

[gettheleadout]

Good luck you brave, brave souls.

If only a real hero like Bruce Willie would wish them luck!