The Poll to Show Your True Colors

[BklynWill]

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Please be honest with your vote.

 

[DragonWell]

Define "Positive Change":

• Do you mean anyone who believes craniosacral can actually be effective in certain situations should lose their license, since they obviously have not even a basic grasp of science?
  Or
• Do you mean that that anyone who questions OPP should be expelled from DO school, since they are obviously MD wannabes anyway?
  

Hmmm. Could someone remind me again which of these was the positive option?

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

I picked the last one. Its no secret Im overall not pleased after having finished my first year.

 

[Vox Animo]

I think they need to cut their tuition in half to allow more students to become PCPs, since thats what they claim.

Should be easy since they pay $0 to clinician for rotations 3rd and 4th year, or so the legend goes.

Its a business though.

 

[Idiopathic]

You hit the nail on the head Vox. How easy is it to go into FP with a 200K SL debt?

 

[medhacker]

I picked the second one with the hope the AOA lobbyist can increase the number and quality of osteopathic residencies 👍

 

[BklynWill]

Define "Positive Change":

• Do you mean anyone who believes craniosacral can actually be effective in certain situations should lose their license, since they obviously have not even a basic grasp of science?
  Or
• Do you mean that that anyone who questions OPP should be expelled from DO school, since they are obviously MD wannabes anyway?
  

Hmmm. Could someone remind me again which of these was the positive option?

I hardly think the practice of cranialsacraltherapy is leading to the downfall of osteopathic medicine. The actual number of DOs who practice this therapy is very small, but they also tend to be a very vocal minority.

The term "positive changes" is intended to be vague. The point is to identify the number of students who want to be happy with osteopathic medicine, and can identify that it is not just their lack of MD credentials that are making them feel disenfranchised. It's a systemic issue, not a degree issue.

 

[DragonWell]

I hardly think the practice of cranialsacraltherapy is leading to the downfall of osteopathic medicine. The actual number of DOs who practice this therapy is very small, but they also tend to be a very vocal minority.

The term "positive changes" is intended to be vague. The point is to identify the number of students who want to be happy with osteopathic medicine, and can identify that it is not just their lack of MD credentials that are making them feel disenfranchised. It's a systemic issue, not a degree issue.

Just my opinion, but to me using a term like "positive changes" is ambiguous to the point of being meaningless. I'm sure Israelis and Palesteinians would both agree they are in favor of "positive changes", but getting any agreement about what that means is another matter. I was being sarcastic in my initial response, so please take it with a large grain of salt, but I'm also not surprised almost everyone has picked the positive changes response; asking if people want undefined positive changes is a bit like asking someone "do you like being happy"?

 

[homeboy]

I hardly think the practice of cranialsacraltherapy is leading to the downfall of osteopathic medicine. The actual number of DOs who practice this therapy is very small, but they also tend to be a very vocal minority.

The term "positive changes" is intended to be vague. The point is to identify the number of students who want to be happy with osteopathic medicine, and can identify that it is not just their lack of MD credentials that are making them feel disenfranchised. It's a systemic issue, not a degree issue.

I wouldn't say the downfal, but if there's anything that tarnishes the whole of osteopathy, cranial is it. Yes, they are the vocal ones.
I don't think I'd vote any of those 4 options: I wouldn't necessarily say I'm 'proud' to be a DO, but am fine with it. ie, I don't really care.
It's not the lack of MD credentials that makes many feel disenfranchised--and this goes out to OSUdoc, Frog man, yourself, and anyone else content with the way things are... Those of us not content are not 'embarassed' by the DO title...we're just extremely frustrated with the complacency so many students and DOs have. "Cranial? Go ahead, it doesn't bother me. AOA politics (eg. the "DO difference")? Fine with me. OMM as a whole? I personally think it works, regardless of proven efficacy, so that's good enough for me." It's also a standards issue: for OMT, AOA policies, DO school admissions...everything.

 

[homeboy]

I wouldn't say the downfal, but if there's anything that tarnishes the whole of osteopathy, cranial is it. Yes, they are the vocal ones.
I don't think I'd vote any of those 4 options: I wouldn't necessarily say I'm 'proud' to be a DO, but am fine with it. ie, I don't really care.
It's not the lack of MD credentials that makes many feel disenfranchised--and this goes out to OSUdoc, Frog man, yourself, and anyone else content with the way things are... Those of us not content are not 'embarassed' by the DO title...we're just extremely frustrated with the complacency so many students and DOs have. "Cranial? Go ahead, it doesn't bother me. AOA politics (eg. the "DO difference")? Fine with me. OMM as a whole? I personally think it works, regardless of proven efficacy, so that's good enough for me." It's also a standards issue: for OMT, AOA policies, DO school admissions...everything.

Ie. it's not a matter of "I'd rather be an MD and let the DOs do their thing,' it's a matter of "I want to fix things because they're obviously messed up."

 

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[DropkickMurphy]

it's not a matter of "I'd rather be an MD and let the DOs do their thing,' it's a matter of "I want to fix things because they're obviously messed up."

Why not just be a DO and practice like an MD? Oh wait, 99% of the DO's I know practice that way.

 

[UserNameNeeded]

Why not just be a DO and practice like an MD? Oh wait, 99% of the DO's I know practice that way.

I really think people overstate the difference between DO and MD. Since they are equivalent degrees for the same profession, there's hardly any difference (except a few of the ideals or, rather, the increased imphasis on those few ideals and OMM training).

So you could say that 100% of MDs practice 98% of the way DOs practice. 😉

 

[UltimateDO]

Based on my experience in this and my previous professional life there is always room for positive improvement. The vagueness of the the statement applies to a huge spectrum of sentiments. I am very satisfied with my osteopathic education but feel there always changes that can be made. I know allopaths who feel the same way. I know engineers who feel the same way. No profession is perfect enough to not have room for improvement.

 

[homeboy]

Based on my experience in this and my previous professional life there is always room for positive improvement. The vagueness of the the statement applies to a huge spectrum of sentiments. I am very satisfied with my osteopathic education but feel there always changes that can be made. I know allopaths who feel the same way. I know engineers who feel the same way. No profession is perfect enough to not have room for improvement.

It's not the education per se, it's the way our profession is promoted by the AOA as being intrinsically better than the MD's.