The Rudest Thing EVER!!!!

[ocean11]

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O.K This is the rudest thing an Adcom has said to me... I got my pre-screening rejection from Wake Forest yesterday (stats: 3.53 GPA, and 31O MCAT: 7vr,12bl,12ps) and my Science GPA fluctuates up and down BECAUSE I had surgery my third year (I had a 3.7 solid but due to a 3.11 in my third year it dropped b/c of the surgergy) anyhow, my final year I had 3.45 Science GPA due to the fact that I was taking over the max course load! anyhow, a 3.45 is't bad! but get this.... one fo the Adcoms... let me know if you want to know who... PM me...from the admissions committee said "If you get a 3.45 GPA in your senior year, how will you do at Med School?!?" "Its a cause for some concern, your Science marks arn't very high" so I said "Look at my science MCAT scores.... they arn't exactly low are they!" so then she recanted what she said and focused on my ****ty verbal... now that I can understand.... then she finally told me to re-peal the rejection and see what happens.... all I have to say is FU*K&^G C@NT... that was so rude! well 16 more med schools to go... I've decided NOT to send my secondary to TUFTS because I'm Canadian and will be at a HUGE disadvantage (called them already...)

Good luck all...

 

[BlackPuma]

Originally posted by ocean11
O.K This is the rudest thing an Adcom has said to me... I got my pre-screening rejection from Wake Forest yesterday (stats: 3.53 GPA, and 31O MCAT: 7vr,12bl,12ps) and my Science GPA fluctuates up and down BECAUSE I had surgery my third year (I had a 3.7 solid but due to a 3.11 in my third year it dropped b/c of the surgergy) anyhow, my final year I had 3.45 Science GPA due to the fact that I was taking over the max course load! anyhow, a 3.45 is't bad! but get this.... one fo the Adcoms... let me know if you want to know who... PM me...from the admissions committee said "If you get a 3.45 GPA in your senior year, how will you do at Med School?!?" "Its a cause for some concern, your Science marks arn't very high" so I said "Look at my science MCAT scores.... they arn't exactly low are they!" so then she recanted what she said and focused on my ****ty verbal... now that I can understand.... then she finally told me to re-peal the rejection and see what happens.... all I have to say is FU*K&^G C@NT... that was so rude! well 16 more med schools to go... I've decided NOT to send my secondary to TUFTS because I'm Canadian and will be at a HUGE disadvantage (called them already...)

Good luck all...

in life you will realize that some people might uses excuses for covering the real reason...

don't take it to heart, there are tons of qualified applicants that get rejected for no apparent reason...

as they say, don't put all your eggs into one basket, and most of all avoid making a big scene. Also, more importantly, adcoms frequent this website, and read what posters have to say, so don't give your identity away to them. I know, i've heard some schools are so nasty that they report your behavior to other schools...

I highly doubt that, but take a deep breath, even the best of us get rejected...

I can't say anything to really make you feel better, just the simple fact, that maybe it's "them" and not really "you" 😉 😀

now don't give up so easily,

Watcha 😀

 

[Amy B]

Hi,

As hard as it is... DON'T take this personally. You know your numbers are high and if they can't see past what happened to you due to health issues... well consider it their loss.

Keep thinking positively about yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tictac]

Hi Ocean,

As watcha and amy said, don't let it get to you! Applying to schools can really put one on an emotional rollercoaster, so brace yourself for the ride. Maintain a positive attitude and confidence and move on from the rejections. Of course, it will hurt to feel rejected, but don't you want to go to a school that really wants you (and with your numbers, you have a great chance!)?

Hang in there! It's still early in the app cycle!!

TT

 

[umass rower]

Originally posted by WatchaMaCallit
Also, more importantly, adcoms frequent this website, and read what posters have to say, so don't give your identity away to them. I know, i've heard some schools are so nasty that they report your behavior to other schools...

Can either of these be verified? It seems like it would be more than a little unfair to even partially judge an applicant based on what they say on an anonymous forum.

 

[coldchemist]

Would it be unfair? I'm not so sure. As long as they aren't violating any laws they can do whatever they want to in order to form an ideal pool of matriculants. However, they would have to be able to prove that they new which applicant made which comments, and that puts them in a very precarious position. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they frequent this website (it is a great source of information for anyone involved in the process), but like Watcha, I seriously doubt that they are doing it to spy on their applicants.

 

[DAL]

Originally posted by umass rower
Can either of these be verified? It seems like it would be more than a little unfair to even partially judge an applicant based on what they say on an anonymous forum.

Someone more knowledgeable on the situation can probably explain it much better than me. A few years back an applicant posted a message slamming some school and someone on the ad comm. after they had been rejected. The school knew who it was based on what was typed in the message, the day it was typed (I think it was the same day the poster was rejected and had talked to someone at the school) and maybe a few other things tipped the school off. Anyway, I believe the poster was called into the school and asked to explain themself.

It was something to that effect. Many people post in the interview thread the same day they get interview invites, and talk about interviews and interviewers the day after the interview. I think the big point is be careful about what you say and make sure you represent yourself on this board the same way you would represent yourself in person.

 

[rjmst]

that's not rude

 

[thewzdoc]

Originally posted by DAL
after they had been rejected. ... the poster was called into the school and asked to explain themself.

Why would you bother to "go explain" yourself after you were rejected. It was a juvinial act for the applicant to "slam some school and someone on the ad comm".

 

[vixenell]

Most non-citizens are at a huge disadvantage compared to other applicants. Typically, to get in from Canada or any other country, you would have to have a much higher GPA and MCAT score to compete with citizens with average scores.

 

[swampfox]

I think enough people have already replied and addressed the fact that people should be careful what they reveal on these boards.

What I am interested in is the fact that the admissions representaive invited Oceans11 to appeal the rejection. What do people know about this process? I suppose if you think you are a good fit for a school and you think they didn't give your app adequate attention, you might submit a letter of appeal. I have never heard of anyone doing this before.

comments??

 

[DAL]

Originally posted by thewzdoc
Why would you bother to "go explain" yourself after you were rejected. It was a juvinial act for the applicant to "slam some school and someone on the ad comm".

Yes, it was very juvenile. I'm not sure about the exact facts on that story, it's talked about in a few other threads on SDN. I was going strictly off memory and it's been around a year since the topic was discussed. Do a search on it you want the full details.

 

[bullsI]

Originally posted by vixenell
Most non-citizens are at a huge disadvantage compared to other applicants. Typically, to get in from Canada or any other country, you would have to have a much higher GPA and MCAT score to compete with citizens with average scores.

Makes sense....Can Americans go to Canadian schools?

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

Originally posted by WatchaMaCallit
in life you will realize that some people might uses excuses for covering the real reason...

don't take it to heart, there are tons of qualified applicants that get rejected for no apparent reason...

as they say, don't put all your eggs into one basket, and most of all avoid making a big scene. Also, more importantly, adcoms frequent this website, and read what posters have to say, so don't give your identity away to them. I know, i've heard some schools are so nasty that they report your behavior to other schools...

I highly doubt that, but take a deep breath, even the best of us get rejected...

I can't say anything to really make you feel better, just the simple fact, that maybe it's "them" and not really "you" 😉 😀

now don't give up so easily,

Watcha 😀

This HAS to be exagerration and/or complete BS. In order for a school to "report your behavior to other schools"...they'd have to first pinpoint your identity. Secondly, your comments on an anonymous message board are not one of the factors of admission to medical school. The admissions committee will not look at your GPA, MCAT, LOR, essays, extra-curricular pursuits, and the comments you made on the Student Doctor Network. It's practically impossible for any adcom to get your identity from this message board unless you posted your full name somewhere. Even if they did track your IP address, that would eventually give them a location...but not your full name, AMCAS ID #, etc. Well, that's it for now folks. Have a good day.

 

[Eraserhead]

Yeah, should any of us be concerned about anonymity? Its seem unreasonable to think that schools would do this, for example look and see where else we have interviews, etc.

I don't know, maybe I should take my interview dates down.

 

[voltron77]

Sorry to hear about your expereinces with Wake Forest ocean11. But you have other schools and that's a positive thing. Don't let it get to you......just move one and hope for better things!!! Good luck!!! 🙂

 

[ocean11]

Thanx guys... for all the support 🙂 ANYHOW... as for adcoms comming on this site GOOD! this is a way for us to give our 'honest' feedback on the process... as for schools checking and spying... GET REAL! with 5,000 applicants (on average) or is it 8,000 at some schools? applying I DO NOT think they have time to go through the IP address and everything else... and yeah if they did how could they proove anything?!? I use my friend's computer at her house 50% of the time and actually signed up from there... so what they are going to blacklist her?! she's in Law School.... give me a break....

 

[sacrament]

When I was interviewing at Pitt, I was kickin' back in their office and relaxing between interviews, and I got to talking with their admissions director (I think that's who it was...). She did, in fact, mention something about "keeping up with what the folks are thinking about us, on the internet forums" or something like that. It's been a couple years now, so my memory is a bit hazy. She didn't mention this forum in particular... she might have been referring to the interview feedback site. Anyway.

 

[Super Rob]

ocean11,

First of all, your scores are good (GPA above average and MCAT science scores high enough for Duke). I think that the admissions person was either (a) not doing a very good job of defending her decision to reject you or (b) trying to see if she could push your buttons and determine whether or not you would defend your credentials.

Let us know how you go about repealing the rejection and how it results. The comments you reported her saying were harsh; it can be difficult listening to someone pointing out all of your shortcomings (which really weren't so short), while neglecting the fact that your numbers would have been even more impressive had you not gone for surgery. Try to stay sane over this. Getting pissed off will not help you. It seems very likely (from what little I know) that with your scores, MORE THAN one of the sixteen remaining schools will hold your application in higher regards.

Good Luck

 

[sgilani]

ocean11... don't worry about it. who needs wake forest. i just hope you put the surgery experience in your personal statment so other med schools know.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I wasn't all that impressed with Wake Forest, to be honest. They were pissy with me about being in grad school (even though I was in the last year of my program), and they're very hung up on "technology" and no one appears to have told them that they aren't the only school that posts lectures online and utilizes laptops and PBL. Probably 5 years ago, they were special, but most schools have caught on now. Also, I was never sold on the notion that Winston-Salem enhances your medical school experience by virtue of having few distractions from study. Congrats to people who are happy with WFU, but IMHO, ocean11, there are much better fish in the sea (no pun intended 😛 )

 

[beanbean]

I don't see what was so inappropriate about an adcom explaining why they had concerns about your application. Perhaps the person used a tone of voice that was rude or condescending, but to merely ask you a question about a "weak" point of your application is perfectly normal and should be expected. Your gpa has some fluctuations due to a medical issue and a maxed out schedule and your MCAT is very good, but a little out of balance on verbal. It would be natural for an adcom to have questions about your science gpa fluctuations, especially when your MCAT science scores are so high. Don't be defensive - just explain the circumstances behind the poorer grades. Be careful with the semester in which your courseload was maxed out - it can appear to signal poor judgement or lack of balance if you take on too heavy a schedule and have trouble. With regard to your MCAT, some schools place a great deal of importance on the Verbal score. The fact that your other sectional scores were high makes it stand out a bit and leads to the question 'why?'. The strengths of your application are obvious - adcoms question the gray areas that they need more info on in order to make an informed decision, so expect some tough questions.

Sorry for your bad experience. Even if the delivery of the information was done in a rude manner, at least you have some feedback and it will help you prepare for the next time a school wants explanations to some tough questions.

 

[carrigallen]

i agree - no one is obligated to explain the dismissal of your application this early. So in a sense you have disparaged an individual who has tried to help you (viz. by explaining the situation to you).

As for the concerns about your posts being viewed by admissions. Yes, I'm pretty sure at many schools an admissions rep reads sdn from time to time. I don't think they try to decipher identities tho.

 

[knock knock]

I think the rudest thing ever is the fact that I havent received any interviews yet. Wait, no...that's just the most depressing thing ever....

K.K.

 

[jennie 21]

All I have to say is that calling someone a f***ing c*** is pretty rude too. You come across as arrogant and entitled. Learn some humility and start realizing that this process isn't personal.

 

[MDmiracle]

Originally posted by knock knock
I think the rudest thing ever is the fact that I havent received any interviews yet. Wait, no...that's just the most depressing thing ever....

K.K.

No doubt, i am in the same boat.

 

[ocean11]

Jeannie 21.... um yeah I'm arrogant and entitled just because I want to be treated like a 'human being' and not put down due to my extreemly low GPA of 3.53 yeah.... I'm so arrogant... and so what if I called her a ******* ****, its not like I mentioned her name in public.... let me tell you something YOU are pretty rude for assuming that I am arrogant and entitled when you know nothing about me or my character. So you might want to 'chill out' yourself instead of attacking others.


Have an Awsome Day 😉

 

[Paws]

Hey guy,

Sorry to hear about WF - I have a sinking feeling I might be joining you on their rejection seat. I know that not everyone will like me in this process and that probabaly alot of schools will tell me to get lost, well, politely worked in a nice letter.

That's why I applied to like, a million schools because I hope (believe, pray ... ) that amongst all these fine schools, someone somewhere will say: my God ! we MUST have this student ...

Maybe too, I am a big pessimist and I am trying to protect myself from the guaranteed rejection. Dude, you are a great student and probably a very nice person and will no doubt make a great doctor. In this grueling year, I think we need to protect ourselves from the **** we will get in this process. Just thinking about all the money being spent on traveling, applications etc. ... all for a thin envelope.

And YES! adcoms definitely read thru this site and it's probably not too hard to figure out who we are ...

 

[Thewonderer]

Originally posted by bullsI
Makes sense....Can Americans go to Canadian schools?

Yes, McGill, MUN, U of Toronto....

On another note, it is something I see from Canadian applicants to med schools. In Canada, getting into an undergrad school is pretty much based on marks, so people pretty much know where they are going and do not usually apply to more than a couple colleges (for example, in Vancouver, people might apply to UBC, U Vic, SFU and Langara community college).

However, in the US, starting in highschool, at least the kids with the high GPA and SAT would apply all over the country, Harvard, Princeton, U of Chicago, UC Berkely, etc. and they understand early on that the admissions game is a crap shoot and adcom sometimes rejects you for no apparent reasons just because they can reject you so they can take somebody else. In the end, rejections do hurt but at least kids in the US experience that a lot earlier.

BUt in Canada, there is no harvard, many kids stay home for college and some only apply to a couple undergrads at most, the concept of an "admissions game" does not sink in until med school application comes along. Therefore, handling rejection and the emotions associated with it can also be totally new. This is just going to be a hard learning experience but getting rejections can only make you stronger 🙂

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by jennie 21
All I have to say is that calling someone a f***ing c*** is pretty rude too. You come across as arrogant and entitled. Learn some humility and start realizing that this process isn't personal.

I have to agree, I'm afraid.

It's an expected and normal part of any interview process for you to be queried about possible weaknesses or deficiencies. If you had smiled graciously, and responded "I'm really glad you brought that up, because I'd very much like the opportunity to discuss that aspect of my application. You can see that my academic performance has been consistent and strong throughout, with the exception of this one semester. Unfortunately I found myself facing some difficult medical problems at that particular point in time. Although my grades do reflect the added strain that I was under, I'm very proud of the fact that I was able to remain productive and involved in my coursework throughout that difficult period, and in fact held a respectable GPA of 3.1 despite struggling with a very difficult course load."

The unwarrented hostility and childlike defensiveness of your post made me cringe. I found myself thinking, 'geez, I hope I never end up having to work with her', and I suspect your interviewer had the same impression.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by jennie 21
All I have to say is that calling someone a f***ing c*** is pretty rude too. You come across as arrogant and entitled. Learn some humility and start realizing that this process isn't personal.

And hope to hell that admissions team or other teams don't recognize who you are.

 

[ocean11]

You'd be lucky if you got to work with me... I mean it 😉

 

[ocean11]

O.K I thought about what several of you said... namely WomanSurg and I have to admit you guys do have a point. I am actually an extreemly mature and good person, who just had to vent at a really rude comment made by an Adcom. Maybe your'e right... it was 'childish'... but sometimes this process gets so frustrating and I've invested so much time and money... and when someone is rude to you and puts you down after all your hard work... one just gets annoyed and needs to vent their 'frustration' . That is partially the function of this forum.

I will say this though calling someone a ******* **** is not nice or acceptable... and yeah in some ways I regret it. There are more 'politically correct' and 'polite' terms to use.

But hey whats done is done and just as I can't judge that Adcom from a few comments, you can't judge me or call me 'arrogant or childish or entitled' that makes your comments as bad as my own.

Here is some love for my fellow SDNers😍