The Under M1 Club: Come on in! part 01

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Sounds like you have a very busy schedule.

As long as you can maintain that 3.3 or higher you should be fine.

Are you happy taking all of those classes?
 
Ouch! What a schedule! Good luck! 😀
 
They're not too bad so far... I've been able to manage the work so far (but that doesn't say much, considering this is only the second week of the semester). Modern Law & Medieval Past will probably be my most difficult class, and if things get too rough, i'll just drop that one.
 
Agent and other UM1ers-
Great thread! I wish I'd found it earlier...I'd begun to phase out my SDN time, seeing as reading everyone asking questions about applications was getting to be a bit much.
I have ALWAYS wanted to be a doctor, but I began school a little too early to make a rational decision about my future - so much for getting a head start! - so I got my Bachelor's in a health related field (Occupational Therapy), and was out in the real world in 4 years. I left the good ol' USA to play pro hockey in Europe, and came back after 9/11. I began work as an OT again, and began to fill the pre-reqs that I didn't get in my undergrad. I'm currently taking courses at Binghamton University (Gen Chem II, after my A- in Gen Chem I and A- in Physics II!!!!). I'm still two O-Chems away from joining the application threads, which will take a few years, as I'm working fulltime.
I hereby forward my application to enter this little club U-M1ers.
Best of luck to EVERYONE!!!
 
Good luck Dan!

Keep us updated.


Agent's Journal -- Entry #5 (I'm starting a journal here to post updates. I hope no one else minds. Maybe someone has ideas on how to help me 😉)

On another note, I saw my GI last night and I'm going to have another colonoscopy to see whats going on with the pain in my lower left side. It's probably just some polups or something related to my Crohn's but still I'm a bit uneasy about it.

I'm doing really crappy in Pre-calc and I don't know what my problem is! I usually get straight A's but on the last two quizzes I've done really poorly. I think the issue is that most of what we are doing now is review and they expect you to remember things I did in 9th grade. I hope things look up. I just don't have money or time to waste on a class that I won't do well in.

Another problem is it meets twice a week at night for 4 hours. Each class we are assigned about 300 problems. I never have any time to study well because I'm too busy working through all of the problems.

Then my stupid b*itch teacher told us we'd have the quiz over section 2.2. When she handed out the uiz it was over sections 1.3, 1.4, 1.6. Both I was pissed. I wrote at the top of my paper, I thought this quiz was supposed to be over section 2.2!?


Oh btw, I created a little form which emails my senators about a funding bill for Crohn's. If anyone wants to sign it for me.

www.finallyfantasy.com/crohns/
 
Hey I just had a quick question. I was wondering how many people took some of their pre-req's in the summer sessions? I'm contemplating taking Chemistry 1 w/lab in a 5 week session and chem2 w/lab in the next 5 week session back to back. Does anyone think this is a bad idea? Since it is accelerated will i still learn everything that I need to know for the MCAT? The lecture portion is for and hour and forty minutes m-f and the labs are for 3 hours three days a week. Thanks for any comments on this subject.🙂
 
Agent, I think your journal entries are a mighty fine idea. Everyone likes to know what you're up to. 😉 I signed your online petition for Crohn's....good luck.

JCPhelps, Im actually wondering the same thing you are about summer sessions. My bio lab teacher (who WAS pre-med, didn't make it, and became a teacher) recommended I take Physics over the summer, sincei t's pretty tough, a lot of people have trouble with it, and over the summer I would have a few less stressors than during the school year. But I don't know...it all just seems so condensed, I worry whether I will have the time to actually absorb the infomation, and LEARN it well enough to be able to recall it on the MCATS.

Any insight from anyone?? 🙂 Hope you're all having a nice day...I got another snow day!! :clap: :clap:
 
Ive taken quite a few classes over the summer. The only pre-req I've taken was General Bio. I would do it again. It was condensed, but I still felt I gleaned enough from it that if I studied again for it for the MCAT I'd be fine.
 
I agree but so far I have tried to leave most of studies in the summer for history,gov and lit. But this year a summer class in chem may be unavoidable.🙁
 
Yeah its best to take your "blowoff" classes during the summer.
 
I was just wondering if anybody had some words of wisdom for me. 🙂

My husband is a Sargeant in the Army, and while the pay isn't wonderful, it's enough to provide for the two of us, with (usually) enough left over each month to put away into my college/med school fund. I suppose I'm one of the lucky one's who doesn't HAVE to work...but I feel I should. I really feel guilty about just being a "full time" student, and placing all of the financial burden on his shoulders, although he's been wonderful and SO supportive. However, I don't want to lose this chance to really put 110% into my studies, while we still have the money so that I may do so. I'm afraid that if I try to take on too much---being a newlywed (and an Army wife, to boot), just recently returning to school, my volunteer work, etc....I'm gonna burn myself out too soon, and bye bye med school!

My question to all of you is: If you did work while you were an undergrad, or are working now, what kind of effect did this have on your studies? I've heard from several people that working helped keep them stay more focused. But, I'm one of those people that if I'm tired after an 8 hour day of work, Im gonna go to BED...not sit up and write an english paper. 🙄 Call me lazy if you must, I suppose. So should I maybe go out and try to find a job (I also volunteer at a hospice, which cuts out a good amount of study time to start with)...or should I just shut up and enjoy it while it lasts and keep my butt at home!?!? It may sound kinda silly, but I would just like to hear from some of you about it. For all of you who actually read thru this chatter...lol thank you. 😀
 
Hey Sarah!

I think it depends a lot on the type of job that you have. Last year I worked two jobs during the school year (I was still in high school) to help pay for college this year. After not working for my first semester at school I have found that having a job does help me focus and manage my time more effectively. At some part time jobs (that I know of) you can even bring your reading, etc. and do some schoolwork when it's slow. How many hours would you want to work per week? What kind of job were you thinking about?

-Danielle
 
hey sarah...

my first year of undergrad I worked full-time waiting tables. although i did very well grade-wise, i felt it was a little too crazy. the second year i worked part-time (also in a restaurant) and this worked out much better. i was still jealous of all those people who didn't work, though, so this year (b/c my husband makes enough to support us) i decided to try not working. i hated it! I spent a lot of time volunteering at hospitals, which was great, but i had a hard time getting motivated to study with all that free time! so now I'm taking an EMT course, hoping i can find a job part-time job in EMS for my last few semesters.

my advise...work part-time if you can. or maybe just try not working for awhile and see how it works for you. i'm glad i tried it, b/c now i know it's not for me! 😉
 
JC,

Be sure that you are ready to take an accelarated course. Right now, I'm taking GenChem I in a ten week course, and it is a lot of information to absorb. I'd imagine that a five weeker would be light speed. If you have a strong chemistry background and are confident that you know the basics, go for it. However, if you haven't had any chemistry in a few years, I wouldn't recommend taking it accelerated. If I have learned one thing from this site it is that grades matter. Even though you want to get done with these pesky pre-req's and advance to the admission process as soon as possible---you might be better served to take your time, get the A's and go into the ap game one cycle later with a 3.8 instead of a 3.0.
 
sarah,

if you don't have to work--DON'T! During my last 2.5 years, I worked 60 hrs a week and kept a full schedule. It was tough. My advice is to count your lucky stars that you have the time to volunteer and attend the classes you want, while spending time with your husband at home. Being in the military myself, I am fully aware (as you probably) know, that the divorce rate for soldiers is higher than any other profession--even docs. So take the extra time you have to study, volunteer, and be with your husband.
 
I am a pre-post bacc student meaning. that i have every intention of going to college full time to complete all my prerequisites once I get out of the Air Force in 04. I am taking the second semester of BiO but with my schedule, I work shift work in the ER, its too hard to go to school .. and we just had our second daughter so i'm just gonna wait. That and I figure my app will be a lot stronger if I take my classes at a university (and i'll be better prepared) as opposed to a very bad community college. so anyway...
 
Sarah,
I know this is against the grain in some folks books, but I started out pitiful in college. After I started working full time, I have done great(48 hrs a week). I reckon I would just say do what you think you can handle.

For the rest of the group, Im glad I found this thread. I was glad to see people getting accepted, but I havent even started applying. Im in my last semester of my pre-reqs (physics II and Ochem II). This is all post bac in nursing.

Hopefully over the next few years, we can be talking on the other threads about our acceptances.

Good Luck to all
 
Sarah-
In regards to your question about working, I'd say it's all up to your "style". If you're going to school full time, I'd say stick with that...if you're picking up classes here and there, you may want to pick something up. I've been told (or is that misled?) that Ad Coms try to "rate" your undergrad experiences among those of other applicants. So...courses at junior college are looked at differently than those at a 4 yr., for example. The Ad Com director that I met with at SUNY Syracuse told me to keep working full time (40 hrs., with both clinical and administrative duties in my specific case!) while filling the pre-reqs I needed one at a time. She said they wanna see that we can handle LOTS of different responsibilities at one time - which kinda makes sense.
For me, I don't think that I am any more focused with work, but I have a VERY low procrastination level, knowing that I have to study, work, sleep, and eat within a 24 hr period.
Nonetheless, doing well seems to supercede all other factors - so be sure to do that. If you have a 4.0 and 40 MCAT, I'm SURE you could reason around "hanging out".
Best of luck in any regard!!!!
 
CJ2Doc, thanks for the insight. I'm currently in a remedial chemistry class since my last exposure to it was 8 yrs ago in high school! Although it does seem to come easy to me...I'm one of those people who struggles with classes like hist, eng, and the like. I guess I'll see how this remedial class goes to see what I do this summer. I'm hoping that it will make all the difference since it will be fresh on my mind. Thanks again for the response.
 
Just checking back in after the downtime.

2badr, I tried to reply to your pm, but I got an error about the mail server. I'm not sure if it went.

Sarah, count your blessings. I have to work 40 hrs+ and its hard to go to school at least 3 nights a week and still find time for the family and homework. Somehow I still have a decent gpa 😉

Big Dan, that makes sense. I guess if anything, I have proven that I can handle lots of different responsibilities and not crack like a weak egg.
 
Hello all...just want to see how everyone is doing, after the looooooong days w/out SDN. I took my first exam, and promptly got a C and had a temper tantrum (only my puppy was there to witness it, so it wasn't very effective). I studied SO hard for it, but I just flaked, I suppose. I went through the test and it seems the EASY ones are the ones I missed. Go figure. My husbands been gone for weeks, and it's been really hard to concentrate...not that I'm trying to use it an an excuse, but for those of you that have been there, you know how it is. He should be home on Friday, and I think things will start to look up, then. Of course, then the waiting game begins for Middle East deployment....

Anyone else have any tests over the break? Good luck to all of you who have them coming up. At least at my school, it seems all the teachers are in cahoots to schedule them ALL in the same 5 day period!! 🙄 Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about working...I'm going to stick with my routine this semester and see how my GPA ends up, then see where I'm gonna go from there.
 
My first big pre-calc test is tonight. I studied quite a bit. I created a 14 page study guide for myself.

I hope I do well.

I also have a quiz in psych tommorrow.
 
Ok I got another question. From what everone says, research is really important. My question is does it really matter what kind of research? Or do they just want to see your ability to come up with some original ideas and go through that whole thing? I'm just asking because i have the chance to get involved in some research that falls under environmental health. Basically to link lung cancer and radon gas in Kentucky---because of all the karst it's a problem here apparently. Its really cool, but will something like that matter? Thanks in advance for any responses.🙂
 
I would definitely do that.

From what M1's have told me, you just need to do enough to talk about at your interview.

One person told me they only did something like that for 1 day but it was plenty to talk about at the interview.

Good luck 😉
 
That research sounds fine JCPhelps.

only doing research for 1 day is - um - not a good idea. sorry agent. They will take it for exactly what its worth - and probably as an indication that you lacked interest in research and/or the committment to even try to follow through.
 
All I was saying is if that was the only opportunity that your EVER had, it would be better than no research.

Obviously a good research experience should generally last at least a few weeks, often months.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
This is my experience. I've had jobs during school(i currently do and it will stay this way), and periods where I tried not working at all...in the hopes that I would have more time to study. Funny thing is it didn't work out like that at all. Seems like the more time I had the more I put things off, so with a busier schedule it forces me to schedule things. I guess it's different for everyone----kinda like how I set the time on my alarm ahead to trick myself into thinking it is later than it actually is:laugh: . Stupid I know but it works, go figure 🙄 . So I forget Sarah...do you go to APSU? I live in the same area as you just wondering, I go to Western Ky Univ. Ok I'm out--later🙂
 
Yes JCPhelps, I'm at Austin Peay. Not by choice!! I'd rather be at home in FL at UF...but the Army didn't want us there. I love my school... I just can't handle this snow too much longer. 🙁



Agent best of luck w/ the pre-calc test. How have you been feeling? I know before SDN went down you were going to be going to the doctor...hope everything worked out ok.
 
Hopefully one of the SDN vets who peek in on this thread can help. . . What the hell is the Texas Match? I thought the match was for residency? Someone please explain!
 
Research is great and all but you better make sure you know ever last bit of info on your research before heading into your interview. I got nailed during my interview about the fine details of my research.

Agent,

What kind of research involves one day? I think your missing the point of research. I sure wouldn't put myself through the long hours required to do a thorough project for the benefit of an interview.

What impressed my interviewers the most was my EMT cert and the amount of time I'd spent in the ER, not my research (mostly because it sucked).
 
agent

I feel your pain. .🙂:laugh:

I see that you, too, have a pesky day job. I'm finishing up my last pre-req (physics) and taking an MCAT review class for April, and teaching 5 days a week, plus laundry, groceries, bills, and all the usual stuff.

When are we supposed to have time for 'research' and community service? I'd go the extra mile and get EMT certification, or find the cure for cancer, or whatever, but there just aren't enough hours in the day.

At least we can say that we are excellent multi-taskers.🙂:laugh:
 
Originally posted by rotatores
Research is great and all but you better make sure you know ever last bit of info on your research before heading into your interview. I got nailed during my interview about the fine details of my research.

Agent,

What kind of research involves one day? I think your missing the point of research. I sure wouldn't put myself through the long hours required to do a thorough project for the benefit of an interview.

Let's just say your were assisting one of your professors with a project for a day, yesh its not the best experience but its better than nothing.

I'm glad I opened my mouth. I think i'll leave for awhile and allow the more astute pre-meds to continue with this conversation.
 
During SDN's hiatus, I received my scores from my first gen chem test. It was a B-.🙁 The disappointing part was how I studied. I concentrated on the stoiciometry, because the vast part of the lectures centered on them. But the test was very balanced between the 3 chapters that we covered. What angered me the most was how it was scored. We had two Quantatative Analysis of Balanced Equations, which took me a bulk of time. They were each worth 2 points! That's the same amount given to the definition questions like "What is a gas?" and "Who created the Atomic Theory?" Needless to say I was p1ssed! The only good point is that she allows a drop, so this will be my mulligan for the semester.
 
Its nice that they allow a drop on a test. I'm sure I only got a B on my pre-calc class, but its a 5.0 course so thats still equivalent to a 4.0.

My test was hella hard last night. I swear I saw the teacher smile as student struggled with one of her word problems.
 
^bump

It seems SDN is back.
 
yeah sdn is finally up (thanx for working hard to get it done guys!!).
i think i have a job next summer working with our family doc.if i don't go to summer school i might try to do it this summer.sounds like it ought to be fun!
 
Welcome back everyone 🙂 Hope everyone did well over SDN's little "break". How did your pre-calc test turn out agent? I did really well on 2 tests I had this week....both A's, and I studied my butt off for them! Of course one can argue the difficulty of freshman history and psychology exams, but I'm pleased with myself all the same.

Happy Valentine's Day, all!! And hope your long weekend is restful..
 
I ended up getting an 85% on the exam, but its a 5.0 course so I think thats fairly well.

This next test is going to kill me though.
 
I'm mostly ready. I memorized the relevant cations and anions, did the homework and practice problems, reviewed notes, etc. But there are a couple of problems I think I'd have trouble zipping through in five minutes. I don't quite feel that I "own" the material. So I'm a little nervous. We'll just have to see how I do. I don't usually clutch on tests, but it's been quite a few years since I've had to take one.

Knock wood!

And I've already figured out how I'll alter my study schedule so I'll be more prepared for the next test.
 
samenewme, I hope you do well on your Chemistry test 🙂

I'd just like to let you know that I'll be in the same boat as you at the end of the month (MY first Chem test of the semester 🙁 )

Speaking of Chemistry, I think that my class is unique. See, my textbook is "Chemistry" (Third Edition) by Olmsted and Williams. What's funny, is that my Chemistry professor is Dr. John Olmsted III. Think about that. One of the textbook's authors is a John Olmsted III, and my professor is John Olmsted III. No coincidence, my prof. was one of the book's authors! 😎

So, if there's something in the book that I do not understand, I can go and point it out to Dr. Olmsted and see if he put it in as a typo 😀

I feel kinda funny taking a class with the professor that wrote the book, but a fellow pre-med suggested Olmsted for the Spring semester, because he wrote the book. Some people might see that as a con, but I see it as a big pro. Of course, I only visited his office once so far, but I plan on more visits.

I am actually enjoying Chemistry now (don't get me started on how much I HATED high school chemistry). I guess part of it comes from Dr. Olmsted, and part of it comes from my lab TA.

Lab is fun. While my fellow students bought their labcoats at the expensive price of $22.95 plus tax, I got mine brand-new for the extremely cheap price of $4.00 😀

It helps to have a mother who's a former seamstress, and also thinks that 23 - 25 bucks for a labcoat is a rip-off. But I digress...

My lab TA is a guy from Kenya. His first name's Sam, and his last name is...difficult to pronounce. He's only been in the U.S. for 18 months (and it shows in his accent), but he's good for a lab instructor. Probably the best I've had so far. He's cool, too. He let me use my home-made lab coat for our labs (and no, it's not quite as bad having "home-made" as people think), he's efficient without being stern, and he really helps us out in lab whenever we get stuck or do not completely understand our instructions.

I messed up several times in lab, in very embarrassing situations, but Sam was very cool about it. Let's just say that I'm a klutz when it comes to laboratory technique.

In short, Chemistry has been fun.

This semester is more relaxing for me despite the fact that I'm taking two more units than last semester. My schedule is certainly more predictable. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I go to class at 11:00 a.m. and go home at 1:00 p.m. Tuesdays and Thurdays are more packed - 7:00 a.m. to 2:20 p.m., but at least I don't have any night classes, which is what I hated about last semester. I'm a morning person, not a night person.

If you've read this far, I genuinely thank you for putting up with my rants 🙂
 
Love the rant, Biodude!

Chemistry test was tough. 11 problems, one is basically extra credit. I got a whacked out answer for one, another I'm not sure of, and the rest I think I set up and calculated correctly, but had no time to check on myself. So we'll just see. If the prof. curves on top o the throwaway question, I'm in good shape. If not, this will be the one exam score this semester I discard, and either way I'll embark on my new study schedule tonight:

Read the chapter and eyeball the homework problems the first night, do them the second night, review them and prep the lab the third night, REDO THEM ALL, along with the "odd ones" we don't have to do, the fourth night/weekend. That's the plan, yes it is.
 
Well, that B- is gonna stick, cause I just had another test which I bombed. I didn't bomb in the sense that I didn't know the material. Rather, I bombed because the way I learned to do the problems was incorrect. Confused? Well, so was I. As I stated in earlier posts, I hate my prof--she's dry, monotone, and reads directly from overheads. She also doesn't work equations out for us, she has them already completed. So in a nutshell, I spend the entire class copying her overheads and not listening to her. So when we went over net ionic equations, I just did normally and copied the material, then went over it the next day myself. I was confused about how to do them, so I asked a co-worker who has a forensic science degree. She showed me how to do them, or so I thought. To make a long story short, I calculated the equations the way she showed me--AND GOT EVERY SINGLE NET IONIC EQUATION WRONG (10 out of 35 questions)! Add that onto the four questions I got wrong for blanking on how to calculate a joule and I got a big, fat, flaming, F. I haven't gotten an F on a test since first semester junior year of undergrad! Needless to say, I was bummed and questioning whether I was cut out for the sciences. Gratefully my wife was a great support. She made me figure out how to correctly do net ionic equations and calculation of a joule, then made me take the exam over at home. On that unofficial test, I only missed one question (damn joule's). It was a big confidence booster. I have no doubt that I will rebound on the next exam, which is coming up fairly soon. So keep your fingers crossed for me!
 
Originally posted by CJ2Doc
I hate my prof--she's dry, monotone, and reads directly from overheads. She also doesn't work equations out for us, she has them already completed. So in a nutshell, I spend the entire class copying her overheads and not listening to her.

I know how you feel.

Good luck 🙂

BTW I start my 2nd job tonight. My next big pre-calc test is tommorrow.
 
And to think, I haven't even begun to take gen chem yet (so I'm hopelessly lost in the most recent posts in this thread LOL) 🙁

Agent, how'd your exam go? (OMG, and TWO jobs? you poor thing)

Now that I'm back from lurking for the moment....
 
Originally posted by manna
And to think, I haven't even begun to take gen chem yet (so I'm hopelessly lost in the most recent posts in this thread LOL) 🙁

Agent, how'd your exam go? (OMG, and TWO jobs? you poor thing)

Now that I'm back from lurking for the moment....
2 jobs? 🙁 .You must be master of time management,agent! Are you taking a full course load too?
 
Yeah I've gotten fairly good at time management or so I like to tell myself.

It's really hard, but hopefully I'll only have to do the second job till the fall.

That's when I will start at Roosevelt U (new school)

My math test was just 🙁 I really studied my ass off for the time I had and felt prepared.)

Here's from a journal entry I do at my other site
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The title of this journal entry should be "My Teacher is Unusually Cruel.."

Last night I had my 2nd math test in Pre-Calc. First of all she lectured before the test on new material which sucks cause I just try to ignore it and keep the test material in my head.

Secondly, while she did give us a review sheet that was like 45 problems, none of the problems on the test were easily factorable or came to clean (non-fractioned, imaginary, etc) solutions.

Also she didnt give us enough time because of her damned lecture. We're supposed to get out at 9:20 pm and most of us didnt leave till 10:15 pm.

I swear the teacher sat there with a smirk the whole time. I poured my heart into that test and I probably got a C. The whole class suffered cause you could here the sighs and moans and groans. Some people quit the test halfway though and just handed it in.

She had 1 extra credit on their that I probably spent about 20 mins on. It was finding all possible zeros of a completely unfactorable, 4th degree polynomial. I tried almost all rational zeros using synthetic division, but couldnt even find one zero.

F#$@cking sucks. I studied my ass off in comparison to my free time. I'm so tired right now

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So I don't know how I did, I just know I put my heart into it.

My 2nd job is at a local Blockbuster where I used to be a manager. I'm hoping to just work 2 shifts on the weekends. I just started the other day.

I can't wait till this class is over so I can take another bio course or something I'm stronger in.
 
I'm a freshman at NYU having fun in Gen Chem II, Principles of Bio II, Econ Principles II, and Writing the Essay.

This thread rocks. 😎
 
Now I know I have to simply do more practice problems and less memorizing, and I'll be better prepared for the next test. AND there's a possibility that this prof curves at the end of the semester. There were two grades over 100, 2 in the 90's, two in the 80's, and an average around 52. So there's plenty of hope for me if I stick to it and polish up my study skills.

So off to do homework now!
 
I'll find out tonight how I did on my math test.
 
Hey again everyone! I haven't replied to many posts in a while because I've been studying, so unfortunately for everyone out there, I'm only gonna reply to posts on threads that I subscribe to (at least until I get a lot of free time) 😀

Of course, the Under M1 Club thread won't die out any time soon 😉

Well, as to my situation right now, I am currently typing up an essay for English 101 (that class is as bad as everyone here at my university says 😛 ). I also have a large lab report to turn into Sam's office by Friday (you know, my lab TA). I have a quiz for Psychology 101 to study for and my first exam for Political Science is also coming up. Basically, this is going to be one really packed up week, and I am so tired. I am also really glad that Dr. Olmsted was nice enough to push back the first Chemistry exam to next Monday, because honestly, I don't think I would have done to well on it with all of this other stuff to do.

I'm keeping a journal of my experiences in pre-med so far, though I only write in it whenever I have time...sometimes I update it days later, and sometimes weeks later.

Going into another rant here

I'd like to say that I do not like the way my mom reacts to my volunteering. She'll say "go volunteer in this" and "don't volunteer in that" and she'll assume that just because only a few pre-meds volunteer in hospice, that I can still apply to medical school without a hospice volunteer experience. In fact, she thinks that I'll hate volunteering for hospice.

The opportunity is there, and I would like to experience volunteering in a hospice to see how it is like to help in taking care of a terminally ill patient, to put myself into a situation in which the patient's dignity and one's compassion are what I can offer to the patient. You never know, we as future doctors may definitely run into a situation in which we just simply cannot cure the patient of the disease, and this is what we have to offer.

I hate it whenever my mom and I talk about my hospice volunteering. Perhaps I should add this to the "Parents are funny in this process" thread

Situation 1:

Me: "Hey mom, I got assigned a patient today."
Mom: "Oh, really, dear? Well, why can't you go volunteer at the hospital instead? You'll see patients there, too."
Me: "I'm doing that too, mom, but I'd like to see this from different perspectives."
Mom: "Well, you can still volunteer to teach people to read, or to do community service, or-"
Me: "I'm also doing that and planning to do that when it fits into my schedule."
Mom: "Fine, do whatever you like, dear, I won't bother you."

Situation 2:

(after calling my patient's primary caregiver to see when a good time would be to come over and stop by to meet the patient and the caregiver)
Me: "Ah, darn. The primary caregiver doesn't seem to want me to come over."
Mom: "Well, that's good! Now you won't have to go over to that house."
Me: "Mom, it sounds like you don't want me to do this kind of stuff."
Mom: "Well, there are so many other things you can do. Like volunteer to do paperwork, clerical work, etc. in an office."
Me: "Mom, I won't have patient contact or clinical experience doing THAT stuff."
Mom: "Well, if you are so worried about that, then go volunteer at the hospital."
Me: "Mom! You don't understand how hard it is to get into medical school-"
Mom: "Well then you can go talk to your auntie Chao (not her real name). She's a nurse after all, she'll know just what you should do to get into medical school."
Me: "Mom, why are you against my volunteering in hospice?"
Mom: "I'm not against it. You misinterpret me. What I am trying to imply is that since your patient doesn't know you, you are a complete stranger, and to allow you into her house, well, of course she would be afraid. Besides, not many pre-meds do this kind of stuff."
Me: "That's EXACTLY WHY I'M GOING TO DO IT!"
Mom: "What I am trying to say is that it is very difficult for a volunteer in this area to find a patient. But, do what you want, I won't bother you, dear."
Me (mumbling to myself): "Sure you won't."

(So, how y'all feelin' here? Here's how I'm feeling 🙄 😡 )

Today, Situation number 3:

Mom: "Biodude, you forgot to inform your boss (volunteer coordinator) about what happened when you tried to make contact with your patient."
Me: "I'll do it Wednesday, mom."
Mom: "You know what you should do, dear, is to volunteer at the hospital."
Me (feeling like this 😡 but showing this 🙁 on my face): "Mom, I'm going to do that, ok? Besides, I'm going to see my boss on Wednesday."
Mom: "How long will this meeting be, then?"
Me: "From 2 to 5 p.m."
Mom: "What! Why so long?"
Me: "Well, if I have time, I can stay back and help doing office tasks."
Mom: "Well, then, can you ask your boss to give you only office tasks to do for volunteer work at the hospice?"
Me (very mad now): "Mom, you sound so much like you are against my volunteering at hospice. Why, mom?"
Mom: "You don't have any experience doing any work whatsoever, that's why. I think that you will go in and do something that you aren't supposed to."
Me: "Mom, the hospice volunteers (including myself) are trained in not only providing care, but also in what we are allowed to do and what we are not allowed to do in the eyes of the law, so don't get worried about my accidentally doing something illegal!"
Mom: "You will hate talking care of a sick person, you know that? That's why you should go volunteer in doing something else. Also, I haven't seen that many pre-meds volunteering here. They usually volunteer at the hospital."
Me: "Mom, why do you think I want to volunteer in a hospice for? I will hate taking care of sick people? Then I think I'll just stop studying to become a doctor then, if it will make you happy!"
Mom: "What! Why are you giving up so easily? I just make some suggestions and I don't even push you, and you quit! You don't have the strength to resist other people's pushing! I am only making suggestions, not pushing you."
Me: "Mom, you don't understand what it takes -"
Mom: "I understand that you need to do very well in your classes."
Me: "Medical schools don't just look for intelligent people. They look for well-rounded people, people with interests outside of science, not just nerds. They want people who can socialize-"
Mom: "You can socialize by volunteering at an office. Besides, you don't HAVE to volunteer at a hospice and see terminally ill patients, you know."
Me: "Mom, you don't understand. Medical schools look for people who stand out from the rest of the crowd. I mean, think about it, are they going to choose a biology major with 3.8 GPA 32 MCAT and only hospital volunteering and basic research? Or are they going to choose the guy with an english major, 3.6 GPA 30 MCAT and a whole host of volunteering in addition to clinical and research experience?"
Mom: "Dear, you can still be an individual by volunteering in other things. Since you don't believe me, I'll let you experience it yourself. You'll see that you will hate doing it."
Me: "And what if I like it?"
Mom: "I don't know."
Me: "It's because of your 'suggestions' that I'm mad about this."
Mom: "Then I won't bother you anymore, dear."

Yeah, right

I'm just mad at my mom for pushing me and claiming not to. I'm also mad at the fact that she thinks that I should follow every other pre-med. How can I be an individual then? How can I stand out from the crowd then? My mom just doesn't understand.

I'll be surprised if she can keep quiet about this matter and not bother me about it for a month.

You people who've moved out of your homes to go to college are lucky! It really sucks to be 18 and still have an overprotective mother who worries too much about her "little" boy in the same house as you. I mean, sure, that shows that she loves me very much, but I hate the fact that my mom is SSSOOOOO overprotective of me. I'm 18 for crying out loud!

End of rant

Well, I've got an essay to finish up and a lab report to type out, so until next time everybody!
 
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