What about herpes, DR TB, Hepatitis, HPV ? Should all those be felonies as well?
Yes.
They absolutely can (and do) because TB actively transmits to rando bystanders
maybe you should lead an initiative to get that converted into a felony as well if you think they should be treated equally. Surprised to see all the self proclaimed libertarians on this forum jump up for more policing and laws and state interventions between individuals.
everyone can still indiscriminately bang each other, it's just that all the people banging have right to know if someone in the pile knows they have HIV.....
i thought you believed government intervention was the devil tho.
I believe govt violating rights is the devil.....no one has a natural right to hide a seriously transmittable disease from a sexual partner or blood recipient.....
This is a little bit of an over reaction. Do you feel this way about HSV-1?
libertarians need laws for that? And enforcement by police? How do you propose paying for that by the government forcing you to give up money in the form of taxes?
HIV can be passed on to a great number of people care of the magic of infidelity and drug use. I completely disagree with this decision.
And the entirety of New England? I'm legitimately surprised by that.
most libertarians aren't against having police, a properly sized govt could be funded just fine with user fees
A better analogy would be what is the difference between giving someone HIV versus, say, intentionally poisoning someone that you offer a sandwich? Let's say it's with a high-potency aflatoxin, which would give them a virtual 99% chance of liver cancer down the line, but causes minimal immediate effects. Either way, they're accepting activity with you and getting a disease as a result.
I dont know to be honest. I think it should not be singled out. If there is no transmission should it still be a felony?
The difference being that >90% of people are HSV-1 positive and could potentially pass the disease at any time. While I'd be furious to no end if I got herpes, it's really not that bad of a disease to the majority of those infected, and only a small percentage end up with the classic stress outbreaks multiple times per year.
If they lied, yes.
if I drive past a picnic and shoot my gun at a large crowd but manage to quite hit anyone, should it be a crime?
or a bunch of cowards who care more about their pride and chances of getting laid than the lives and autonomy of others
There is said zebra...
Why not hepatitis? Or drug resistant TB? Or herpes? you need the same life long therapy for some of those conditions Even a BJ or spitting on someone counts as a felony if you have HIV and dont disclose. Knowing that those pathways of exposure have an almost nil chance of infection should they continue to be felonies?
The big difference is that this is generally voluntary on one party. To use your baseball bat analogy, it's like if a guy said, "alright, it's okay if you hit me with that bat" but then the guy got hit waaaaay harder than he expected. He still consented, so it wouldn't be assault, but it might be attempted murder, manslaughter, or murder, depending on the nature of what went down. While some might consider it assault in the "I wouldn't have initially consented" sense, that would carry a much lower sentence and much weaker connotations than my described scenarios.
Thats what I meant, why single out HIV when there are other devastating disease that can require life long treatment. should probably have similar consequences. and BJs and spitting should probably not be considered felonies considering transmission is almost non existant through those means.
Disagree. HPV, for instance, is carried by roughly 80% of the population. Should everyone have a subtyping, and then have to share their paperwork before engaging in intercourse? That could get really complicated, since of the 4 out of 5 people with HPV, many do not have the same strains. What about a person with hand warts? Going to throw them in prison every time they shake someone's hand? The unfortunate fact is, human interaction spreads disease. What about a person who refuses to get tested for herpes, but keeps having partners turn up with it even though they're asymptomatic? Criminalizing it would do much more harm than good, except for in exceptional cases like HPV, and would cause an explosion in the criminal justice system population and the destruction of countless lives.
Why's that?
