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Hey guys, I figured to start a new thread for TMDSAS 2010 since it officially started today.

Hope this cycle will bring everyone here on SDN good news and please feel free to ask any questions regarding TMDSAS application process (although I donno how much I can help).
 
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I am glad you started this thread.I didn't want to start 2010 😀 .
good luck 👍
 
Good luck to all applying!!


I was wondering if anyone was planning on applying outside of the three texas schools? i am getting mixed signals from people, some say just apply to the three in-state schools, and others say go out of state. please state which out-of-state schools you also plan on applying to.

Also regarding TMDSAS, it doesn't let me login sometimes... I know its the first day and all but is anyone else having problems with this?

thanks! and again
GOODLUCK!! 👍
 
Good luck to all applying!!


Also regarding TMDSAS, it doesn't let me login sometimes... I know its the first day and all but is anyone else having problems with this?

thanks! and again
GOODLUCK!! 👍

Yeah, I'm feeling pretty dumb right about now....is this thing only open during the day or something possibly(it's midnight right now and I randomly guessed that)?😕

But yeah, the application button is not available to click and login won't work for me, firefox or IE.
 
Good luck to all applying!!


I was wondering if anyone was planning on applying outside of the three texas schools? i am getting mixed signals from people, some say just apply to the three in-state schools, and others say go out of state. please state which out-of-state schools you also plan on applying to.

Also regarding TMDSAS, it doesn't let me login sometimes... I know its the first day and all but is anyone else having problems with this?

thanks! and again
GOODLUCK!! 👍

yeah I'm having the same problem. Yesterday when I tried to login before 8am it wouldn't let me. They told me it didn't open until 8. I thought it was just for that day but it seems like it's doing that again today. They've got some bugs to fix but it was nice how as you put in your grades, it calculates your GPA!

I'm going to apply to Louisville and Midwestern apart from the 3 texas schools. We'll see how it goes.
 
yeah I'm having the same problem. Yesterday when I tried to login before 8am it wouldn't let me. They told me it didn't open until 8. I thought it was just for that day but it seems like it's doing that again today. They've got some bugs to fix but it was nice how as you put in your grades, it calculates your GPA!

I'm going to apply to Louisville and Midwestern apart from the 3 texas schools. We'll see how it goes.

I am trying to find out which out of state schools, will be more chance, IMO if we don't get in any state school, there will be little possibility for out of state.
good luck to all. 👍
 
I am trying to find out which out of state schools, will be more chance, IMO if we don't get in any state school, there will be little possibility for out of state.
good luck to all. 👍

Yeah I pretty much agree with you there. But you have to think that maybe there will be something on your app that stands out to another school that one of the texas schools didn't care about. Who knows...

I really just don't want to mess with the aadsas or whatever its called...

I came up with Louisville and Midwestern just by checking out the ADEA guide to dental schools.
 
Apart from the Texas dental schools i plan to apply to Western, Howard, Meharry,and Uop. Quick question about the TMDSAS application: Does it hurt your chances of being accepted by a texas dental school if you are applying outside of texas? in the application it mentions "if your applying out of state schools" to enter the school names does anybody know if it would be a good idea to mention the schools you plan to apply outside of TEXAS?
 
Just thought I would throw in my Redskins logo to combat that ugly blue star 😀
 
I am still having problems with TMDSAS. I e-mail the administrator, and they said it was a problem with interfolio, which would be corrected by 8AM today (May 19). And it was, briefly. I logged in at 8:00PM and was booted promptly at 8:30PM. Can't get back in. Anyone else still experiencing difficulty?
 
I am still having problems with TMDSAS. I e-mail the administrator, and they said it was a problem with interfolio, which would be corrected by 8AM today (May 19). And it was, briefly. I logged in at 8:00PM and was booted promptly at 8:30PM. Can't get back in. Anyone else still experiencing difficulty?


It was working earlier around 10am - 1pm when I was using it. But now I can't login again. I really wonder if it is only open during the day? That would suck.

Also in the application, does anyone know what a DENTPIN is? This is located in the section where you answer questions about when you took or will take the DAT. Also in this section because it asks for the date of the day I took the DAT, does this mean I still have to send TMDSAS my dat scores from ADA?
 
Yeah, it would totally suck. I work all day. I don't think that's it, though. It wouldn't make much sense...
 
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It was working earlier around 10am - 1pm when I was using it. But now I can't login again. I really wonder if it is only open during the day? That would suck.

Also in the application, does anyone know what a DENTPIN is? This is located in the section where you answer questions about when you took or will take the DAT. Also in this section because it asks for the date of the day I took the DAT, does this mean I still have to send TMDSAS my dat scores from ADA?

Yeah, it would totally suck. I work all day. I don't think that's it, though. It wouldn't make much sense...

Same here, whats wrong with this new website?😕
 
Question: when i registered for TMDSAS today it said I already had an Interfolio account and that it was also giving me one. can i use the same one that I already had?

also, I called the lady at TMDSAS the other day and asked about the evaluation form, she said that if i already had letters in my account that i just had to sign some form called a "request" which is different from the evaluation form.. basically just something that I can fill out myself and waive my rights to see the letters? can anyone confirm this, i can't remember what she called it, but it was something which would save me from going back to the requestor to fill out.
 
Good luck to all of you this year!
 
Could anyone tell me what DENTPIN is? It's on the TMDSAS application when entering the DAT information. I haven't taken the test yet so what the hell is DENTPIN?
 
Wish I could tell you what DENTPIN is. I've taken the DAT and even applied/rejected last year and can't think of anything off the top of my head.
 
Just wanted to know how many of you guys are answering the unique characteristics or qualities essay on the TMDSAS?
 
Well I got a reply back about DENTPIN. Apparently you're supposed to leave that blank because the ADA was supposed to issue that at the beginning of the year but they delayed the launch.
 
I'm sick of this new site already. I'm constantly getting booted off! I can't even freaking get my letters of evaluation in because it keeps coming up with errors... Annoying. I think I'm just going to have them do it the old way.

I was told that if we applied last year DAT we have to send the scores again. That's 25 bucks per school. How lame.
 
So I havn't actually done it yet but I was watching my gf apply for some other program and came up with a question.

So at my school if you retake a class they replace the old score with the new even though both still show on the transcript.
So I'm guessing I just enter both times I took the class and the correct times and they just average out?😕
 
Right. It won't replace the grade. It will just count it as another class effectively averaging the two.
 
First optional essay about unique circumstances or life experiences relevant to application, what the heck goes here? What type of things would yall write about?
 
can anyone find the TMDSAS transcript request form for this cycle? i had the older form from last year but it should be updated now.

I CAN"T FIND THIS FORMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

can someone please send me the link of the form if you have it?

thanks a bunch. =)
 
You have to print off the request form from within your application. It will have your info and a bar code on it. Then you will ave to go to your undergrad school and submit your request and make sure they enclose that form when they send the transcript.
 
I have also wondered about these optional essays. If I was an immigrant from another country I might write about my experience adapting to a new country, and how overcoming that would prepare me to adapt to dental school and its new environment. But I've got nothing!
 
I just saw and opened up my application and one thing I saw was that the LOR's needed to have a letter of evaluation with them from the person as well. Before classes ended (and to stay on top of the ball), I asked for all the LORS from a dentist, teachers, etc. and sent them to my health advisor committee at the school and they are holding them now. I was wondering, would I have to go back and find all the people that wrote me a LOR to fill out the evaluation? That might be difficult due to it being summer and what not.

Any help? Usually, I thought the school health advisor committee was just going to send the letters to TMDSAS, is there something I am missing?
 
Today I was entering my classes to TMDSAS.I realized that I had one not pass grade(from bio anthro class) which I did not care about that at that time. While I was trying to enter the grade which was displayed as F (and reduced my non-science GPA incredibly). I am wondering is this true or not? Normally pass/fail grades do not include in GPA calculation. Do guys have any idea what I need to do? I will be super pissed if this is the case. It is the first time I heard that NP course evaluated as F (which is very ridicilious).
 
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I imagine it counts as an f. But to be sure call tmdsas and ask them. They can correct the problem if there is one
 
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I imagine it counts as an f. But to be sure call tmdsas and ask them. They can correct the problem if there is one

Today I e-mailed them and they told me it is equal to F (0 from 4 units class). I am very disappointed with TMDSAS application system. According to my school NP/P grades are not evaluated in GPA calculation. I called my schooland they told me that they do not include P/NP courses in GPA calculation (as I know). Even my advisor at that time told me not to worry about it since it does not affect my GPA. TMDSAS does not count P as a grade (which makes sense), but NP as F ( which does not make sense at all). I got 4 Ps (originially A) but they do not count as a grade, however my d+ (no-pass grade) evaluated as F. Please not try to defend the system since it does not make sense on the evaluation of P/NP courses.
 
I just saw and opened up my application and one thing I saw was that the LOR's needed to have a letter of evaluation with them from the person as well. Before classes ended (and to stay on top of the ball), I asked for all the LORS from a dentist, teachers, etc. and sent them to my health advisor committee at the school and they are holding them now. I was wondering, would I have to go back and find all the people that wrote me a LOR to fill out the evaluation? That might be difficult due to it being summer and what not.

Any help? Usually, I thought the school health advisor committee was just going to send the letters to TMDSAS, is there something I am missing?


Yes, you just give the the LOR form to the health professions committee and they will take care of it. The individual letters are for people who do not have the committee letter, so you don't have to worry about that portion of the application.
 
Please help!!! Is it okay to submit the application and send the check even though TMDSAS hasn't received any of the required documents such as transcripts, evaluation letters, and test scores? I want to submit it ASAP but I'm not sure if I should wait until they receive all the documents.
 
Please help!!! Is it okay to submit the application and send the check even though TMDSAS hasn't received any of the required documents such as transcripts, evaluation letters, and test scores? I want to submit it ASAP but I'm not sure if I should wait until they receive all the documents.

You must believe that Texas ds operate their admission criteria based on a first come first served basis.
 
Please help!!! Is it okay to submit the application and send the check even though TMDSAS hasn't received any of the required documents such as transcripts, evaluation letters, and test scores? I want to submit it ASAP but I'm not sure if I should wait until they receive all the documents.

Yep. Just make sure you submit your application before you send the check or else they will send the check back.
 
Today I e-mailed them and they told me it is equal to F (0 from 4 units class). I am very disappointed with TMDSAS application system. According to my school NP/P grades are not evaluated in GPA calculation. I called my schooland they told me that they do not include P/NP courses in GPA calculation (as I know). Even my advisor at that time told me not to worry about it since it does not affect my GPA. TMDSAS does not count P as a grade (which makes sense), but NP as F ( which does not make sense at all). I got 4 Ps (originially A) but they do not count as a grade, however my d+ (no-pass grade) evaluated as F. Please not try to defend the system since it does not make sense on the evaluation of P/NP courses.

Wow, I did not know this. That is really kinda messed up. It punishes you severely for not passing, but doesn't give points whatsoever for passing. You may be able to go back and change some of those P/NP grades to the actual letter grades (if you would want to ) and therefore boost your GPA in that fashion. I had to change one of my P/NP classes from pass to an "A" so that I could graduate. Kinda jacked up, but maybe you can do the same thing, except for 3 classes.
 
Has anyone tried to access Baylor's supplemental app?? I keep getting "website not found"
 
Is anyone from texas applying out of state? if so did you include that on your TMDSAS application? Does it hurt your chances of being accepted at a Texas school if they see you are applying out of state?
 
Might be a silly question but to Who do we send the Check to when we submit our application?
 
Is anyone from texas applying out of state? if so did you include that on your TMDSAS application? Does it hurt your chances of being accepted at a Texas school if they see you are applying out of state?

Its always best to be honest. They will ask you in your interview most likely too. And, no, I don't think that it hurts your application. I think that it shows that you are willing to go anywhere to pursue your dream of becoming a dentist. I mean, how serious are you about dentistry if you are not willing to go out of state, right? I don't think its a bad thing.


Might be a silly question but to Who do we send the Check to when we submit our application?

There should be instructions about this on the application instructions page. Its some address in Austin from what I remember.
 
Hello everyone,
It looks like it has been a while (2006) since anyone started a thread about the Texas dental schools. There is another thread, a survey ("can you answer these questions about your dental school") and it is very helpful. However, I disagree with certain aspects, those that pertain to student-faculty interaction at San Antonion dental school. No offense to the student who submitted it, but the experience can vary somewhat from student to student. I thought I would share this with other up and comers who are trying to decide where to go to school. I can't tell you anything about other schools, but hopefully someone else can.
First off, I'm thankful to be in dental school, nearly finished actually, and I still believe dentistry is a great profession. However, dental school is a tough, often discouraging experience, at least at San Antonio. Several of the faculty here are ex-military and while some faculty are kind and respectful toward students, many are not. For instance, there is one group practice in which nearly one-half of the juniors could potentially fail the year and either have to repeat or remediate over the summer and the faculty of that group and administrators who have been made aware of the situation do not seem to be too concerned. Some of the students in that group are very good students. In my perspective, there has been an ever increasing disregard for the education of students here and the preferred option appears to be failing students rather than helping them recognize deficiencies and improve. I'm not basing this upon a few isolated incidents and while I have had my fair share, I know others have had it worse.
I pretty much agree with everything else that was posted on the survey (although we do have about 10 cut-throat gunners in the class, but I suppose that is about normal). If such is the case at the other two schools, then I guess y'all will just have to deal with it... and it's not unbearable, but is sure can make for a long day, month...year if you get stuck in the wrong group.
Some of the faculty have been given way too much authority (one in particular, and all of you at UTHSCSA know who I am talking about) and if they think you should fail for poor performance, poor professionalism (a word that can often be applied capriciously to include anything the faculty doesn't like but has yet to be added elsewhere in an evaluation form). My group is great and I'm glad to be in it, but in other groups, the students are treated very disrepectfully. It is possible for students to fail, learn from it, and still not be humiliated. Somel of the faculty fail to grasp this notion and inflict a level of humiliation upon students that I am certain they would not want inflicted upon themselves. And, in general, I would say the greivances of the students are not generally addressed, especially in the clinic. A fact that the building of a new student lounge will not ameliorate or disguise.
This is not meant to be a gripe thread, I could have said a lot more, rather it is intended to give future dental students an honest perspective of what I, and several others who prompted me to write this thread, have experienced here. While I hold several of the faculty in high regard here and am grateful to them, some chages are in order and long overdue.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8219982

Dang...
 
alright, i have a few questions.

1) i plan on submitting my application the first week of June. I should have all my transcripts and LORs submitted. However, i don't take the DAT till june 28th. Can they go ahead and review my application, or will they wait for my test scores? Also if they wait on test scores, do they wait for the official scores, or can they review your application if you fax them the unofficial test score sheet.

2) on the TMDSAS application where you list all your courses and grades, do you go ahead and list the classes you plan on taking next year?

3) is it recommended to write the optional essays? everything i would write about in the optional essays is already talked about in the required essay. I feel like it would be redundant for me to write about them again.

4) in the required dental essay, it says to write about your motivation, philosophy, and goals for and about dental school. However, when i wrote my essay i also talked about my volunteering experiences and travel experiences. Should i take all that out of the essay, and just keep it focused on my goals and motivation?

sorry, i have lots of questions and i wrote this in a hurry so please forgive my spelling errors.
 
alright, i have a few questions.

1) i plan on submitting my application the first week of June. I should have all my transcripts and LORs submitted. However, i don't take the DAT till june 28th. Can they go ahead and review my application, or will they wait for my test scores? Also if they wait on test scores, do they wait for the official scores, or can they review your application if you fax them the unofficial test score sheet.

2) on the TMDSAS application where you list all your courses and grades, do you go ahead and list the classes you plan on taking next year?

3) is it recommended to write the optional essays? everything i would write about in the optional essays is already talked about in the required essay. I feel like it would be redundant for me to write about them again.

4) in the required dental essay, it says to write about your motivation, philosophy, and goals for and about dental school. However, when i wrote my essay i also talked about my volunteering experiences and travel experiences. Should i take all that out of the essay, and just keep it focused on my goals and motivation?

sorry, i have lots of questions and i wrote this in a hurry so please forgive my spelling errors.

1. Yes, they will review your application if you send it in without the DAT. But they will not offer you an interview without the DAT scores. Only Baylor will extend an interview with faxed DAT scores. I faxed them my scores and got an interview in the mail all within 3 days. Houston and SA will take the faxed copies, but they will not extend an interview until the get the official scores, which means about a three week wait.

2. Yes, you can update this if your plans change.

3. I wrote just a little bit in the optional essay (a paragraph). But I did not got full out for another essay.

4. No, write about what you want them to know about you. If you like the way it sounds, and others say that it sounds good, leave it the way it is.
 
Its always best to be honest. They will ask you in your interview most likely too. And, no, I don't think that it hurts your application. I think that it shows that you are willing to go anywhere to pursue your dream of becoming a dentist. I mean, how serious are you about dentistry if you are not willing to go out of state, right? I don't think its a bad thing.




There should be instructions about this on the application instructions page. Its some address in Austin from what I remember.

TMDSAS
702 Colorado, Suite 6.400
Austin, TX 78701
 
alright so i have a few more questions.

I'm assuming everyone is using interfolio right? Can I go ahead and submit my application, then later submit my transcripts and LORs? Is this possible if you're using interfolio?

Would someone be able to explain the process?

Thanks everyone... your feedback helps ALOT!
 
alright so i have a few more questions.

I'm assuming everyone is using interfolio right? Can I go ahead and submit my application, then later submit my transcripts and LORs? Is this possible if you're using interfolio?

Would someone be able to explain the process?

Thanks everyone... your feedback helps ALOT!

Yes everyone is using Interfolio because TMDSAS is using interfolio; there is no other option.

TMDSAS:
What are the Supporting Documents?
The supporting documents include official transcripts, official test scores and evaluation letters. For detailed information go to the Application Instructions section.

It is suggested on the TMDSAS website that you "ensure all supporting documents are sent to TMDSAS promptly" after submitting your application.

So, you can submit your application then send your scores, etc. in, but dental schools will not evalute you for an interview until they have everything usually.
 
haha, i feel really annoying asking so many questions, but i've got a few more in the bag.

1) I'm assuming you list the organiztions you're a part of under "extracurricular/ leisure activities". If so, how should you answer the cumulative and hours per week question? Do you count the hours towards meetings, IM games, etc?

2) Where do you list your shadowing hours under? Volunteer work of extracurricular activities?

3) Under leisure activities, is it recommended to list all your important hobbies? For example, i play the piano, saxophone, and workout alot. Should i list hobbies such as those?

Some of these questions may seem dumb, but they help. thanks once again! 🙂

p.s. is it okay to just crop any picture and submit it? or do they want a passport type picture?
 
Finally finished with the application. I'm so happy and relieved. Well, basically I'm done. I just need a few people to review my personal statement and then I'll play the waiting game with my transcripts and LORs, but those should be on their way so I think I'm good. Probably submit tomorrow or Wednesday. 🙂

How's everyone doing with their application?
 
Finished my application the 28th of May. Have been requesting transcripts evers since, today I faxed admissions and also mailed them a copy of the TMDSAS form and letter transcipt request form. Also mailed TMDSAS payment. Its been a long process!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are any of you planning to apply elsewhere?
 
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