top med school that DOESN'T emphasize research experience

[bluedevil61212]

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Hey all, I know that most of the top 20 med schools are research oriented and really value applicants with strong research backgrounds. With that said, do any of those not put an emphasize on research experience for applicants or are willing to take applicants with little or no research experience? Specifically, any of those emphasize public service or international experience? Thanks!

 

[Evergrey]

Hey all, I know that most of the top 20 med schools are research oriented and really value applicants with strong research backgrounds. With that said, do any of those not put an emphasize on research experience for applicants or are willing to take applicants with little or no research experience? Specifically, any of those emphasize public service or international experience? Thanks!

It's not that the top 20 med schools just happen to be research oriented, they are the "top 20" because they're ranked on a research rank list. If you have extensive accomplishments in other areas, they might overlook your lack of research, but they are ranked in research for a reason. They want to train academicians and researchers.

 

[NYBills987]

It's not that the top 20 med schools just happen to be research oriented, they are the "top 20" because they're ranked on a research rank list. If you have extensive accomplishments in other areas, they might overlook your lack of research, but they are ranked in research for a reason. They want to train academicians and researchers.

Yup, what he said.. If you are looking at the research rankings, you aren't going to find a non-research oriented school and thats what people use for the rankings generally. If you are really interested, check out the primary care rankings and see which of those are/aren't on the research rankings and you should at least a decent answer to your question.

 

[ilovelanguages]

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...ols/top-medical-schools/primary-care-rankings

 

[IvyHopeful20]

In truth, research rankings don't matter all that much.

However, primary care rankings don't matter at all.

When someone is talking about a top-20 school, they aren't talking about a top 20 primary care school. The reason being, if you want to land that dermatology residency, going to a research unranked school may not help you (whether it hurts you is up for debate and if it does, it's a small negative - other things matter much more than med school prestige). But if you go to Harvard and want to land a primary care residency, you're not going to be hurt. However, going to a top ranked research school with hundreds of millions of $$ will allow you many more opportunities to be at the forefront of cutting edge research, and going to 'publish-factories' will certainly help your residency. You can do research anywhere, but just the sheer number of labs and PIs at Hopkins for example will give you vastly more opportunities to find the exact type of research you enjoy and want to do compared to a less research intensive school. That's pretty much the advantage, rather than name recognition (though obviously the name does matter a little).

Fact of life is research rankings = rankings.

Again, rankings for law schools matter a lot. For med schools, they don't matter much.

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Also, research $$ doesn't really mean better quality of clinical education. I would make my decision to go to research heavy school if you want to do significant research (e.g, MD/PhD or a year off or weave it in throughout your curriculum). If you're in it for a summer of research plus maybe a block in your fourth year, you can really do it anywhere - you're not going to author a Nature article in eight weeks, and it doesn't make sense to pick a school based on that if that's the level of research involvement you're aiming for.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Buy an mars and look up the top 20. See which one has the lowest percent of matriculants with research experience.

 

[NickNaylor]

It's not that the top 20 med schools just happen to be research oriented, they are the "top 20" because they're ranked on a research rank list. If you have extensive accomplishments in other areas, they might overlook your lack of research, but they are ranked in research for a reason. They want to train academicians and researchers.

This.

I've found that while some of the schools in the top 20 have extensive research opportunities, research isn't as big of a deal as at other schools (I got this vibe at Chicago and Vandy). Really the only way to figure this out for sure is to research schools individually and/or interview at them.

 

[Law2Doc]

It's not that the top 20 med schools just happen to be research oriented, they are the "top 20" because they're ranked on a research rank list...

This. OP, your question is the equivalent of asking "which of these blue houses is least blue". The US News research ranking is largely driven by research funding. So anyplace with research funding is going to attract faculty/adcoms with an interest in research, who in turn are going to favor applicants with at least some interest in research, simply as common sense. If you use such rankings to define "top" programs, then no point saying which of these research factories is going to be the least interested in research -- they all are or they wouldn't be at the top of this list. Period. If you are less interested in research you may be more attractive to places further down such a list. But then you have the issue of whether you still consider them a "top" med school.

There are many potential barometers that can be used to determine whether a med school is "top" notch. But since most of what makes a med school great is going to be subjective things like quality of teaching, and a learning friendly atmosphere and faculty that goes that extra mile, you won't really find a good list. Simply means you have to interview more, talk to more current students/alumni and be super critical in evaluating what you see and hear.

 

[Silverfalcon]

Just as a side note, OP asked another question about "getting into top 10 medical schools" on another thread.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=10593138#post10593138

... In other words, let's not waste time with questions like this.

 

[darlin]

Just as a side note, OP asked another question about "getting into top 10 medical schools" on another thread.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=10593138#post10593138

... In other words, let's not waste time with questions like this.

It looks like OP just started posting, so I see what he is thinking. Top schools are always swirling around in premed future fantasies.

OP, running a search may be helpful. Top 10 medical schools admissions is sort of a subject that gets beaten into the ground around here. There should be plenty of input already on the subject.

As other posters have said, for top schools, research is just sort of an expected part of the package. Though, there are of course other factors that are taken into consideration

 

[IvyHopeful20]

This.

I've found that while some of the schools in the top 20 have extensive research opportunities, research isn't as big of a deal as at other schools (I got this vibe at Chicago and Vandy). Really the only way to figure this out for sure is to research schools individually and/or interview at them.

Isn't Chicago now going to require a research thesis to graduate?

 

[NickNaylor]

Isn't Chicago now going to require a research thesis to graduate?

I don't remember hearing about that, but that seems to be the trend these days, though "research" and "thesis" are usually interpreted very, very loosely.

 

[Barcu]

Maybe Mayo. But they aren't technically a "top 20" school.

Plus, you have to be superhuman to get in.