Total teaching faculty numbers in DO vs. MD schools....why such difference?

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According to the US News & World report book, MD schools have hundreds if not over a thousand full time faculty while DO schools usualy have less than 100 for similar number of student enrollment. Why is this so?
 
According to the US News & World report book, MD schools have hundreds if not over a thousand full time faculty while DO schools usualy have less than 100 for similar number of student enrollment. Why is this so?

Because everyone under the sun at most university affiliated medical schools gets granted a professorship but may never have any students. Most DO schools are private and do not have affiliated hospitals.
 
Because everyone under the sun at most university affiliated medical schools gets granted a professorship but may never have any students. Most DO schools are private and do not have affiliated hospitals.

Yeah, I was thinking the affiliated hospitals too. Btw - after reading your signature, PCOM goes up a couple of notches in my book.
 
Does research also play a role? All big research universities have plenty of "professors" that just research and don't teach. I don't know if this is the same for med schools, but the researchers at the M.D. schools may count as "faculty" as well.
 
Does research also play a role? All big research universities have plenty of "professors" that just research and don't teach. I don't know if this is the same for med schools, but the researchers at the M.D. schools may count as "faculty" as well.

I think it has more to do with what was mentioned above.

Take PCOM for example.

40 affiliated hospitals and medical centers, maybe with a handful of physicians at each who are "professors" in some capacity.

Now take Jefferson.

1,000 physicians in one hospital all of whom are "professors" simply because they are part of a teaching institution.

I worked with a physician who is listed as a "professor" at 3 different medical schools...and only has regular contact with one school...and that is still limited contact (3 days/week).

Dont get caught up in numbers like that.

Realistically how many physicians can one student have significant educational contact with in only 4 years? Maybe 30.

Just because a physician teaches a guest lecture or 2 doesnt, in my opinion, mean they should be counted towards the total...but they are.

In your first 2 years of school you will be bombarded with basic sciences along with some clinical professors mixed in. At PCOM we had a core group of physicians who taught each block...Cardio, GI, Pulm, Nephro, etc...with guest lecturers to fill in. So there are 10 docs.

In 2 years of clinical rotations you can maybe do 20 rotations or so where you will work closely with some attendings.

I know I havent worked with, rotated with or even MET 80% of the 250+ faculty that PCOM has listed as "professors". Having an additional 700 profs on top of that wouldnt have changed my educational experience.

Quality, not quantity. 👍
 
Agree with JP. Looking at the site of one of my state's MD programs (where I did my undergrad) under the "faculty" area they basically list a lot of the physicians who are involved to any degree with the clinical sites at hospitals and clinics around the state..... At some level eventually involved with the school as they'll have students rotate through, but actively teaching full time or available for the students full-time, no.
 
It is much more accurate to look at average class sizes.
 
Because everyone under the sun at most university affiliated medical schools gets granted a professorship but may never have any students. Most DO schools are private and do not have affiliated hospitals.

Makes sense. Thanks everyone.
However, if you read one of the earlier pages from US News & WR book (before the list of schools begin), it tells the students to choose a school which has a good ratio or faculty to student since it'll mean you'll get more help/attention from professors. I think it even has an example of an Allo school's ratio (high faculty to student ratio) vs an Osteo school ratio (lower faculty to student ratio). That's unfortunate that US News printed that without really knowing what these numbers mean. But, I'm sure no one really reads all the prelude text.
 
Makes sense. Thanks everyone.
However, if you read one of the earlier pages from US News & WR book (before the list of schools begin), it tells the students to choose a school which has a good ratio or faculty to student since it'll mean you'll get more help/attention from professors. I think it even has an example of an Allo school's ratio (high faculty to student ratio) vs an Osteo school ratio (lower faculty to student ratio). That's unfortunate that US News printed that without really knowing what these numbers mean. But, I'm sure no one really reads all the prelude text.

US News doesnt understand medicine or medical education? Im shocked.
 
Hey "Dr JPH"

Just noticed your name change 🙂. How's your residency treating yah? Congrats, btw, on making it through the past 4 years...
 
Hey "Dr JPH"

Just noticed your name change 🙂. How's your residency treating yah? Congrats, btw, on making it through the past 4 years...

So far so good. Cant wait until I am on a different service though. 😳

Thanks for the congrats. 👍
 
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