Tougher to get a PP gig w/ a mid-range residency?

[Rocket777]

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I'm closing in on getting ready to enter the big bad world, and was trying to figure out how much the brand name of your residency program matters for getting a PP gig.

I figure there's a whole bunch of CA-3s and others who were just / are still looking for a job. Is there a difference between having completed a residency at a top 20 program (however you nebulously define top 20) vs. a mid-range program (again, however you nebulously define mid-range) in terms of:
* getting interviews
* getting a (any) job
* getting a prime / highly desired location
* getting a better comp package
* getting something else that's important that I haven't thought of?

Thanks!

 

[urge]

I'm closing in on getting ready to enter the big bad world, and was trying to figure out how much the brand name of your residency program matters for getting a PP gig.

I figure there's a whole bunch of CA-3s and others who were just / are still looking for a job. Is there a difference between having completed a residency at a top 20 program (however you nebulously define top 20) vs. a mid-range program (again, however you nebulously define mid-range) in terms of:
* getting interviews
* getting a (any) job
* getting a prime / highly desired location
* getting a better comp package
* getting something else that's important that I haven't thought of?

Thanks!

It matters. There is a reason you are bringing this up. You already know the answer.

 

[lane]

BS.

Your skills and personality get you a job in the real world. I was offered multiple jobs in major cities nowhere near my training program, even though it's not a "name brand." Conversely I saw an applicant from a Harvard program get essentially brushed off during one of my interviews. It may matter in academia, but don't feel like you'll be relegated to BFE if you don't go to some Top 5/10/20/x program.

 

[Rocket777]

Would it possible to elaborate? I actually don't know. I'm at what most people would consider to be a "top 20" program, but I don't know how much it actually matters. I've heard my PD say that after a certain level of competence, what's important is speed, ability to get along with the surgeons, and then getting along with the other anesthesiologists in your group to be successful in your group.

Since we are all trained in academic centers, I would imagine there is a certain bias towards brand names within academia. I don't know if that really translates to PP. Which of the above points (interviews, job opps, compensation, other) do you feel is increased with a brand name? Is that for an academic institution or PP? I would genuinely like to hear your thoughts, as this seems to be a subject always shrouded in secrecy.

Thanks.

 

[Trisomy13]

One thing that never comes up when we are at our staff meeting, in the break room, or taking over a complex case from a colleague -- where we trained.

That's not entirely true. We have one guy who will say "actually, back at XYZ..." and we all roll our eyes and pretend to answer a page.

 

[DrBeaker]

One thing that never comes up when we are at our staff meeting, in the break room, or taking over a complex case from a colleague -- where we trained.

That's not entirely true. We have one guy who will say "actually, back at XYZ..." and we all roll our eyes and pretend to answer a page.

Funny

 

[IlDestriero]

One thing that never comes up when we are at our staff meeting, in the break room, or taking over a complex case from a colleague -- where we trained.

That's not entirely true. We have one guy who will say "actually, back at XYZ..." and we all roll our eyes and pretend to answer a page.

It comes up at the interview, and is featured on the applicants CV that everyone is looking at.🙄
Once you're in you're in. You've got to get in first.
It's a complex subject because it's not just as simple as training at some top 10 program. Some programs have strong reputations for clinical ability, regional, etc. Maybe the group has experience with residents from your program, etc. That can work in your favor or against you. The big name programs are all big. That network is something that helps their residents secure jobs.
One thing you can do anywhere is to try to be Chief Resident. That will get you an interview. It means you can handle your work and have the leadership traits to mentor others, take on admin responsibility, etc. Usually the chiefs have game.