Transitional/Prelims and Fees

[Dwindlin]

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Are transitional/prelim programs considered separate specialties for application fee purposes?

For example, if I am applying to X number of advances, Y number transitional, and Z number of prelims is the fee calculation

X + Y + Z = total programs
or
X, Y, and Z all treated as separate programs.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

All separate.

 

[viciouz]

How about applying to a program where there is an advanced and catergorical option? (ie Anesthesia)

If I select both, do I have to pay double the ERAS fees, even though its the same program?

 

[gasblaster]

How about applying to a program where there is an advanced and catergorical option? (ie Anesthesia)

If I select both, do I have to pay double the ERAS fees, even though its the same program?

I believe no. It's considered one application.

 

[Dwindlin]

All separate.

Many thanks.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Gasblaster is correct. Applying to two tracks inside the same residency is "free" -- it only counts as a single application. This would also include applying for a Primary Care and Categorical track in an IM residency.

 

[username456789]

Gasblaster is correct. Applying to two tracks inside the same residency is "free" -- it only counts as a single application. This would also include applying for a Primary Care and Categorical track in an IM residency.

Not always, at least when it comes to Prelims/TYs. Most places that offer both a prelim medicine and transitonal year track for PGY-1 will accept your application to one as the application to both; however, one program in particular in the mid-atlantic region specifically tells you that you must apply to and pay for both a Prelim and a TY application to be considered for both.

I know it's an oddly specific example, but just wanted to let people know that there are some exceptions out there.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Sorry for confusion. I since Prelim IM and TY are usually two separate programs, I would expect there would usually be separate fees. But applying to categorical IM and prelim IM together would usually be one fee. But, now that I think about it, I'm not completely certain.

 

[username456789]

Sorry for confusion. I since Prelim IM and TY are usually two separate programs, I would expect there would usually be separate fees. But applying to categorical IM and prelim IM together would usually be one fee. But, now that I think about it, I'm not completely certain.

Ah I see. As I was typing my response I wasn't entirely sure we were necessarily comparing the same things, and yet I hit "enter" anyway. C'est la vie.

 

[gasblaster]

But when you're applying to both categorical and advanced at the same program, I still think it's considered one application.

Prelim (technically part of the medicine or surgery residency) and TY (it's own "residency") are usually two different programs although they still may be run under the same department. As I understand it...

 

[username456789]

But when you're applying to both categorical and advanced at the same program, I still think it's considered one application.

Prelim (technically part of the medicine or surgery residency) and TY (it's own "residency") are usually two different programs although they still may be run under the same department. As I understand it...

Guess I hadn't really thought about the Prelim and TY being all that different, but you're probably right. Different "residency programs" I suppose.

As for categorical and advanced, it may vary with specific instances, but I know that at least one of the Derm programs at which I interviewed had spots for advanced and for categorical (the prelim medicine year was linked to the program's medicine department) and we were allowed to rank both as separate entities on ERAS but only required one application/application fee.

 

[gasblaster]

As for categorical and advanced, it may vary with specific instances, but I know that at least one of the Derm programs at which I interviewed had spots for advanced and for categorical (the prelim medicine year was linked to the program's medicine department) and we were allowed to rank both as separate entities on ERAS but only required one application/application fee.

Yeah this is how most of the anesthesia programs that offer both advanced and categorical spots are. You can apply to both with one application and ERAS counts it as one application in terms of fees, but then when you do the ROL, the advanced and categorical options are ranked separately. Although, now that I think back... there was a fee for the number of rankings you submit, so I guess you do end up paying in on the tail end.