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Trust me, nobody cares.
um, okay you did not answer the question.
nobody cares.
Pretty sure I did.
I'm interested in your opinion, if you were a reader would you give a bonus point to a 4.0 GPA in a single major or to a triple major with a 3.97. Obviously, it is much more complex then this but assuming everything else was equal (ideal world).
No bonus/extra points are given for a triple major.I'm interested in your opinion, if you were a reader would you give a bonus point to a 4.0 GPA in a single major or to a triple major with a 3.97. Obviously, it is much more complex then this but assuming everything else was equal (ideal world).
Ok let me spell it out. This isn't how admissions works at all so the hypothetical is worthless. The "everything else" is never equal. It's clear you are looking for someone to validate an opinion that you already have set in your mind, but the truth is that nobody cares and someone with three majors won't be getting bonus points over another applicant.
Set aside Double/ Triple majors and wondering about the extra course work of upper division in humanities and sciences would be useful? I mean what if you decided not to go to med school?
Ok. I understand that your view is the extra course work may not matter for admission but what if those extra course work allows you to get a higher mcat, score higher on the boards and finally get into a better residency program. Because your one step ahead of the people who are just learning the material? And more review in medical school will make it easier for you to digest the material and essentially be review. Wouldn't this make you a better doctor?
1. What you take in undergrad is not going to help you score better on step 1.Set aside Double/ Triple majors and wondering about the extra course work of upper division in humanities and sciences would be useful? I mean what if you decided not to go to med school?T
Ok. I understand that your view is the extra course work may not matter for admission but what if those extra course work allows you to get a higher mcat, score higher on the boards and finally get into a better residency program. Because your one step ahead of the people who are just learning the material? And more review in medical school will make it easier for you to digest the material and essentially be review. Wouldn't this make you a better doctor?
1. What you take in undergrad is not going to help you score better on step 1.
2. You may be ahead of someone in a subject but you're still behind the line that you need to be at to succeed in medical school. And you're undergraduate education will not cover the full breadth and detail you need.
3. A mastery of the facts and basic science material does not make someone a good doctor.
sigh, I never said undergrad will go over all medical school topics.
I disagree with #3, I would think that bigs factors out of many is to be able to have the knowledge, social skills (excellent communication) and mastery in the sciences and topics covered in Med School. I.E the reason there is the mcat. lol
Set aside Double/ Triple majors and wondering about the extra course work of upper division in humanities and sciences would be useful? I mean what if you decided not to go to med school?
Ok. I understand that your view is the extra course work may not matter for admission but what if those extra course work allows you to get a higher mcat, score higher on the boards and finally get into a better residency program. Because your one step ahead of the people who are just learning the material? And more review in medical school will make it easier for you to digest the material and essentially be review. Wouldn't this make you a better doctor?
I disagree with #3, I would think that bigs factors out of many is to be able to have the knowledge, social skills (excellent communication) and mastery in the sciences and topics covered in Med School. I.E the reason there is the mcat. lol
No.
No. I don't care if you majored in every undergrad major there is, it will only help you for a few weeks/maybe the first semester of med school. You won't be ahead of everyone else for very long. Unless you are in medical school you can't understand how much you don't learn in undergrad. I'm a Physiology major and covered details in the first week of med school Physiology we never mentioned in UG. None of it will help you for boards or be a better doctor.
Yes those things are important for becoming a good doctor, but someone masters medicine by mastering the topics presented in medical school and (even more so) residency, not by triple majoring in different sciences in undergrad.
No.
No. I don't care if you majored in every undergrad major there is, it will only help you for a few weeks/maybe the first semester of med school. You won't be ahead of everyone else for very long. Unless you are in medical school you can't understand how much you don't learn in undergrad. I'm a Physiology major and covered details in the first week of med school Physiology we never mentioned in UG. None of it will help you for boards or be a better doctor.
Yes those things are important for becoming a good doctor, but someone masters medicine by mastering the topics presented in medical school and (even more so) residency, not by triple majoring in different sciences in undergrad.
Oh the naivety.If you are physiology major and medical school covered your undergrad major in the first few weeks, you must have been to (excuse my language to a very ****ty UG)
Educate yourself please.If you are physiology major and medical school covered your undergrad major in the first few weeks, you must have been to (excuse my language to a very ****ty UG)
i agree with you, but someone has an easier time (+ additional review, easier to learn (i.e anatomy and physiology, bacteriapathology) if they took more courses on the topics of medicine (i said triple set aside). In the long run for different opportunities having more courses can only be a plus.
Easier time studying for mcat science sections, Step 1, and boards. 🙂
If you are physiology major and medical school covered your undergrad major in the first few weeks, you must have been to (excuse my language to a very ****ty UG)
I dunno, the old UG was good enough to get me an MCAT score better than the vast majority of test takers and a medical school seat but what do I know.🤣I see a 123 in your future.![]()
News flash: the classes taught in undergrad barely scratch the surface of "topics of medicine". Oh and the MCAT science sections contain exactly 0% of upper level science.
But if you think it will help then go right ahead and waste your time.
The CARS section will be difficult for you... I see a 123 in your future.I dunno, the old UG was good enough to get me an MCAT score better than the vast majority of test takers and a medical school seat but what do I know.
News flash: the classes taught in undergrad barely scratch the surface of "topics of medicine". Oh and the MCAT science sections contain exactly 0% of upper level science.
But if you think it will help then go right ahead and waste your time.
The CARS section will be difficult for you... I see a 123 in your future.I dunno, the old UG was good enough to get me an MCAT score better than the vast majority of test takers and a medical school seat but what do I know.
Your friends are having an easier time bcuz they were more easily able to adapt to the rigor of medical school and learned how to study efficiently much faster than most others. Not because they had a stronger content base. Like others have posted, wait until you get into med school and you'll realize how vastly different ugrad and med school courses are.Did you go to a state college? I have friends who went to the UCLA and Cornell. They are having an easy time learning and specifically told me because of their undergrad they studied minimal for each exam. And had a life.
If I do a double or triple it would be for my self and no one else. I would love to take graduate level courses and more advanced sciences. At the very least it reduces the chance of Alzheimer's.
Your friends are having an easier time bcuz they were more easily able to adapt to the rigor of medical school and learned how to study efficiently much faster than most others. Not because they had a stronger content base. Like others have posted, wait until you get into med school and you'll realize how vastly different ugrad and med school courses are.
Also your second statement makes zero sense. Double or triple majoring will hinder your ability to take more higher level and grad level courses.
-There is no world where everything else is equal
-There is no such thing as an ideal world
-every UG school is different
-every med school is different
-every major is different
-and every applicant is different
The only thing is for certain is that the hypotheticals are just a waste of time, energy and resources.
Now if you have a real question where you are considering a course of study and what to know the impacts then please ask
Did you go to a state college? I have friends who went to the UCLA and Cornell. They are having an easy time learning and specifically told me because of their undergrad they studied minimal for each exam. And had a life.
If I do a double or triple it would be for my self and no one else. I would love to take graduate level courses and more advanced sciences. At the very least it reduces the chance of Alzheimer's.
OP doesn't make much sense. At this point, I think he's just trying to get his message count up.Just so I understand what you are saying...asking if med schools will give you bonus points for triple majoring yet you purely want to do this for yourself? Seems a little contradictory don't ya think?
Cars section is difficult for native speakers and of course it will be harder for ESL students.
OP doesn't make much sense. At this point, I think he's just trying to get his message count up.
Nope, no bonus points. We don't care what your major or minor is, only that you do well.I'm interested in your opinion, if you were a reader would you give a bonus point to a 4.0 GPA in a single major or to a triple major with a 3.97. Obviously, it is much more complex then this but assuming everything else was equal (ideal world).
sigh, I never said undergrad will go over all medical school topics.
I disagree with #3, I would think that bigs factors out of many is to be able to have the knowledge, social skills (excellent communication) and mastery in the sciences and topics covered in Med School. I.E the reason there is the mcat. lol
Dox gets it. What UG school prepares you for in medical school is not the material, but learning how to learn...how to be a good student and all that goes with it.Your friends are having an easier time bcuz they were more easily able to adapt to the rigor of medical school and learned how to study efficiently much faster than most others. Not because they had a stronger content base. Like others have posted, wait until you get into med school and you'll realize how vastly different ugrad and med school courses are.
There are six different competencies that medical students and residents have to master. Only one of these is the scientific knowledge domain. The rest are all humanistic domains. They are the majority of the education in Medicine that makes one a good doctor.
Dox gets it. What UG school prepares you for in medical school is not the material, but learning how to learn...how to be a good student and all that goes with it.
The material in my own course that I teach now in a week or two at most was covered over an entire semester when I was a UG student.
so majoring in psych or phil or anthro looks good as a double / triple? Thanks for input
sigh, I never said undergrad will go over all medical school topics.
I disagree with #3, I would think that bigs factors out of many is to be able to have the knowledge, social skills (excellent communication) and mastery in the sciences and topics covered in Med School. I.E the reason there is the mcat. lol
If you are physiology major and medical school covered your undergrad major in the first few weeks, you must have been to (excuse my language to a very ****ty UG)
so majoring in psych or phil or anthro looks good as a double / triple? Thanks for input
I didn't answer the earlier question about how do non-Bio or non-typical pre-med majors look.so majoring in psych or phil or anthro looks good as a double / triple? Thanks for input
I didn't answer the earlier question about how do non-Bio or non-typical pre-med majors look.
For me, this does get attention in a positive way. We're flooded with Bio majors, so the kid who is "the English major" sticks in our memory. I even have a set of interview questions for specific non-science majors. No, I'm not sharing.
Psych majors are relatively common; Anthro far less common and Anatomists tend to like them!
I strongly suggest that you major in things that interest you, NOT because you think that they will look good to Adcom members. This type of thinking tends to blow up in pre-med's faces, especially when they find out that the coursework is more challenging or less interesting than they thought.
I triple majored, and while at some points in my app I brought it up and tied it up to the "interdisciplinary/diverse perspectives" I came to appreciate, I'd never bank on it. I did for myself and my own passion to learn, as should you if you really want to—don't kid yourself and think it'll give you any boost.
Get a stellar MCAT and some sweet EC's and you're set.
There's nothing wrong with that! All we're saying is don't bank on it making your application any more competitive than someone with one major. Two majors is nice, but as far as medical school admissions go, it is virtually inconsequential.The person above made me nervous about the MCAT..........
But I really want to study more in college and have one year extra to take classes and learn for fun. Whats wrong with that?
They can offer more interesting perspectives on human behavior at times.Are Psych Majors more interesting in your opinion than the Bio ones? Thanks for your advice Goro.
The person above made me nervous about the MCAT..........