True or false. Nurses and doctors look different.

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In my experience, native intelligence seems to affect the way one carries one's face. Probably for this reason, I think that smart people tend to be better looking than less intelligent people. This theory also goes a long way in explaining the preponderance of "butta-faces" among the poor (in our modern meritocratic society, people with poor impulse control, inability to delay gratification, poor school performance, terrible decision-making abilities, etc.). Anyone who has lived in a large urban area can tell you how most poor people are straight up ugly.
I disagree strongly with this although it is off-topic. Poor people aren't poor because they're stupid or have individual issues where they can't climb our meritocratic society. Generally they're poor because they are born into relative poverty.

And poor people tend to have poorer health, which can affect attractiveness. Intelligence has very little bearing.
 
I disagree strongly with this although it is off-topic. Poor people aren't poor because they're stupid or have individual issues where they can't climb our meritocratic society. Generally they're poor because they are born into relative poverty.

And poor people tend to have poorer health, which can affect attractiveness. Intelligence has very little bearing.

no

"Even the poorest people in many developed countries are wealthy by global standards - for example, the poorest five per cent of Americans earn on average the same as the richest five per cent of Indians."

people on welfare make the same money as professionals in the 3rd world. if you add all the government programs we have, they have a much better life. yet, indians/filipinos end up as doctors while people on welfare don't improve.

SOURCE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...obal-elite--half-worlds-richest-live-U-S.html
 
I actually agree that posture and an alert look can confer a certain intelligence that the alternate does not. I'm not sure a lack thereof does the opposite, however.

I'd need 20 random med students and 20 random nursing students mixed together in a line-up - I'm not entirely convinced either way at this point, but I do share the OP's bias.
 
no

"Even the poorest people in many developed countries are wealthy by global standards - for example, the poorest five per cent of Americans earn on average the same as the richest five per cent of Indians."

people on welfare make the same money as professionals in the 3rd world. if you add all the government programs we have, they have a much better life. yet, indians/filipinos end up as doctors while people on welfare don't improve.

SOURCE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...obal-elite--half-worlds-richest-live-U-S.html

There's a difference between absolute poverty and relative poverty. I would argue that an Indian/Filipino who becomes a doctor is ranked far higher in socioeconomical status than the poorest 5% of Americans.
 
I actually agree that posture and an alert look can confer a certain intelligence that the alternate does not. I'm not sure a lack thereof does the opposite, however.

I'd need 20 random med students and 20 random nursing students mixed together in a line-up - I'm not entirely convinced either way at this point, but I do share the OP's bias.

That would be really interesting to see actually. Especially if you had 1 group segregated by gender and 1 group mixed.
 
Currently, while getting ready for the anatomy NBME at the library, I can tell who's a nursing or medical student based on whether they are quietly reading a book/answering practice questions, or loudly laughing and talking about non school things in a group of 5 people.
 
Currently, while getting ready for the anatomy NBME at the library, I can tell who's a nursing or medical student based on whether they are quietly reading a book/answering practice questions, or loudly laughing and talking about non school things in a group of 5 people.

:laugh: this is so true
nursing students are also in scrubs frequently while at the library

then again i just saw a first year med student wearing his anatomy scrubs with his short white on top of it
 
:laugh: this is so true
nursing students are also in scrubs frequently while at the library

then again i just saw a first year med student wearing his anatomy scrubs with his short white on top of it

I wear scrubs to the mall if I have large breaks in btw patients. Guess people think I'm a nurse. Oh well
 
:laugh: this is so true
nursing students are also in scrubs frequently while at the library

Because they're required to. They see/do more clinically oriented things from the get-go and so wear scrubs a lot of the time. That's why you see them wearing scrubs so often.
 
There's a difference between absolute poverty and relative poverty. I would argue that an Indian/Filipino who becomes a doctor is ranked far higher in socioeconomical status than the poorest 5% of Americans.

so the problem is not a lack of wealth, but their mindset. they see people around them with more and they feel like the world owes them or that the world is against them. the reality is that they are better off than 90% of the world. they don't have to worry about certain diseases. our Medicaid plans offer them better healthcare than 99% of the 3rd world. there are a lot more opportunities available in the US than in the 3rd world.

so our poor stay poor not because they lack nutrition, healthcare, education, or opportunities. they stay poor because they think they are inferior due to having less than their neighbors so they create a self-defeatist mentality which manifests as poor impulse control and decision making.
 
so the problem is not a lack of wealth, but their mindset. they see people around them with more and they feel like the world owes them or that the world is against them. the reality is that they are better off than 90% of the world. they don't have to worry about certain diseases. our Medicaid plans offer them better healthcare than 99% of the 3rd world. there are a lot more opportunities available in the US than in the 3rd world.

so our poor stay poor not because they lack nutrition, healthcare, education, or opportunities. they stay poor because they think they are inferior due to having less than their neighbors so they create a self-defeatist mentality with manifests as poor impulse control and decision making.

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I wear scrubs to the mall if I have large breaks in btw patients. Guess people think I'm a nurse. Oh well

well it says nursing on them so probably not


Because they're required to. They see/do more clinically oriented things from the get-go and so wear scrubs a lot of the time. That's why you see them wearing scrubs so often.

okay but it doesn't take more than 5 mins to change clothes
who know what's on there
 
okay but it doesn't take more than 5 mins to change clothes
who know what's on there

I agree with that. However, why would you change your clothes day-in/day-out when you're not done with the day? I know that when I get done with the day, I don't change my clothes until I'm back at my place..

So if you're a student who has to commute to the school/doesn't live nearby, you'd be reluctant to actually want to change clothes and then come back to study at the library. And I don't think they actually want to wear the scrubs, either, but that it's required for them to wear it.

Whereas some med students decide to wear scrubs when they have no reason to. :meanie:
 
so the problem is not a lack of wealth, but their mindset. they see people around them with more and they feel like the world owes them or that the world is against them. the reality is that they are better off than 90% of the world. they don't have to worry about certain diseases. our Medicaid plans offer them better healthcare than 99% of the 3rd world. there are a lot more opportunities available in the US than in the 3rd world.

so our poor stay poor not because they lack nutrition, healthcare, education, or opportunities. they stay poor because they think they are inferior due to having less than their neighbors so they create a self-defeatist mentality which manifests as poor impulse control and decision making.

I don't quite agree that they develop a self-defeatist mentality from jealousy. I think it is society that tells them they are inferior, and outside forces that make it difficult to climb out. I actually do think that, despite the plethora of opportunities in the US, they are generally denied to the poor. There's other stuff in your post I don't agree with but to bring this back on topic....

My whole point is that the argument that: "Dumb people look different from smart people, for example poor people look different because poor people are usually dumber than rich people" is flawed. Because I don't think poor people look different because they are dumb, but because of relatively worse health. It's not the amount of money or level of access to healthcare or a self-defeatist mentality that matters; it's that socioeconomic inequality exists in our world, and that inequality in and of itself worsens health.

TLDR: poor people aren't dumb.
 
At least they're not wearing their scrubs to the bar like a few nurses I saw the other day.

Sick.

Some nights I feel like burning my scrubs, couldn't imagine purposely inoculating everyone around me.

...surely they were stopping at the bar after their shifts.
 
so our poor stay poor not because they lack nutrition, healthcare, education, or opportunities. they stay poor because they think they are inferior due to having less than their neighbors so they create a self-defeatist mentality which manifests as poor impulse control and decision making.

I partially agree. Health care doesn't create health, it treats disease. Good jobs create health by getting people out of the vicious low SES cycle. This is why being pro business is good for low SES people, as opposed to entitlements (enablements).
 
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Who cares change in the hospital if you're going to the bar after, we all know they just wanted everyone to know they were nurses.

I think we can all agree that's not acceptable.

Now I'm even more confused. Why would they want people to know they are nurses? Is that a thing?

When I see someone in a shopping environment with scrubs I always make a scrunchy face to indicate it's gross. It's a uniform for ickiness - why walk around with that on?
 
Now I'm even more confused. Why would they want people to know they are nurses? Is that a thing?

When I see someone in a shopping environment with scrubs I always make a scrunchy face to indicate it's gross. It's a uniform for ickiness - why walk around with that on?

Maybe they think it helps them pick up guys? Idk.
 
Now I'm even more confused. Why would they want people to know they are nurses? Is that a thing?

When I see someone in a shopping environment with scrubs I always make a scrunchy face to indicate it's gross. It's a uniform for ickiness - why walk around with that on?

Definitely a thing, if you have any nurse friends on facebook I'd be surprised you didn't notice already. Every other status update has something to do with being a nurse or why nurses are awesome. I would not put it past any of them to wear scrubs to a bar.
 
Definitely a thing, if you have any nurse friends on facebook I'd be surprised you didn't notice already. Every other status update has something to do with being a nurse or why nurses are awesome. I would not put it past any of them to wear scrubs to a bar.

Actually it's all my pharmacist fb friends that are constantly updating with things like OMG PHARMACISTS RULE!!!!1 or WERE DOCTORS TOO!!!! etc etc. But I'm looking at fb as I post this and youre right, same thing with the nurses.
 
Just very subtle, perhaps, but admittedly noticeable.
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Actually it's all my pharmacist fb friends that are constantly updating with things like OMG PHARMACISTS RULE!!!!1 or WERE DOCTORS TOO!!!! etc etc. But I'm looking at fb as I post this and youre right, same thing with the nurses.

so true
i used to get facts about pharmacists on a regular basis
some crap about "know your pharmacist, know your medicine"
and nurses with their once a month update on how hard they're in the library studying so hard for their cardio exam
 
First - wearing scrubs/whitecoats/etc in public is gross. Libraries/etc is acceptable because you're probably a student/need to study/whatever. But otherwise it's gross.


And to answer why would you want people to know you're a nurse?

People sympathize with nurses. No one sympathizes with the physicians/pharmacists/dentists to the extent that one does with nurses. I'm not saying it's right/wrong, but that it's true. So... they just take advantage of that.
 
so true
i used to get facts about pharmacists on a regular basis
some crap about "know your pharmacist, know your medicine"
and nurses with their once a month update on how hard they're in the library studying so hard for their cardio exam

:laugh:

i have extra pharmacist hate because one told me that she didnt know since when dentists were allowed to write for vicodin

another told a patient of mine she had an STD that she most certainly had no business diagnosing her with

oh oh oh... and one DEMANDED i call him doctor. at that point i had pretty much lost my temper completely so the whole conversation i called him doctor of pharmacy. *****.
 
so true
i used to get facts about pharmacists on a regular basis
some crap about "know your pharmacist, know your medicine"
and nurses with their once a month update on how hard they're in the library studying so hard for their cardio exam

Or about how cutthroat nursing school is
 
so the problem is not a lack of wealth, but their mindset. they see people around them with more and they feel like the world owes them or that the world is against them. the reality is that they are better off than 90% of the world. they don't have to worry about certain diseases. our Medicaid plans offer them better healthcare than 99% of the 3rd world. there are a lot more opportunities available in the US than in the 3rd world.

so our poor stay poor not because they lack nutrition, healthcare, education, or opportunities. they stay poor because they think they are inferior due to having less than their neighbors so they create a self-defeatist mentality which manifests as poor impulse control and decision making.

Disagree with this. While there is an element of truth to this paragraph and certainly to the one above it, making the argument that people are poor in our society because of a defeatist mentality, a bad attitude, and bad decision making is pretty absurdly reductionist. Poverty is more complex than that. Part of the bad decision making that you speak of comes from having to decide between fairly bad options on a regular basis. Let me give you an example: Many banks require a "management fee" if your balance is below a certain amount, and they will keep taking this fee from your balance periodically, even to the extent of incurring overages, which they will charge fees for at a very enthusiastic rate. So a person may choose to keep their puny earnings in cash on their person, which can result in loss or theft. Bad decision making right?

Interestingly, banks often offer incentives for large accounts, such as airline miles, or discounted interest on lines of credit. It is possible, but sort of difficult to make truly bad choices here.

As a wealthy or middle class person, one can make a succession of bad choices without it having a lasting effect, due to the cushioning effect of extra resources. One wrong move for a poor person can really change their day to day living situation.

As far as health equity, having superior health care to persons in third world countries =/= good health care, it just means better than bad, or none.

Education… This should not come as a surprise to you, but discrepancies in quality exist across our national education system.

Opportunities… I’m not even going to go there.

Since I do not want to derail this very important thread, I will add my $.02: Hotter, doctors or nurses? Nurses, obviously. The sexy nurse outfit is a staple of adult novelty stores nationwide. If the general public thought that doctors were sexy, there would be skintight doctor outfits made out of pleather. Sound kind of creepy? There’s your answer.
 
and with all this we conclude poor people are ugly, ... brilliant.
 
Disagree with this. While there is an element of truth to this paragraph and certainly to the one above it, making the argument that people are poor in our society because of a defeatist mentality, a bad attitude, and bad decision making is pretty absurdly reductionist. Poverty is more complex than that. Part of the bad decision making that you speak of comes from having to decide between fairly bad options on a regular basis. Let me give you an example: Many banks require a "management fee" if your balance is below a certain amount, and they will keep taking this fee from your balance periodically, even to the extent of incurring overages, which they will charge fees for at a very enthusiastic rate. So a person may choose to keep their puny earnings in cash on their person, which can result in loss or theft. Bad decision making right?

Interestingly, banks often offer incentives for large accounts, such as airline miles, or discounted interest on lines of credit. It is possible, but sort of difficult to make truly bad choices here.

As a wealthy or middle class person, one can make a succession of bad choices without it having a lasting effect, due to the cushioning effect of extra resources. One wrong move for a poor person can really change their day to day living situation.

As far as health equity, having superior health care to persons in third world countries =/= good health care, it just means better than bad, or none.

Education… This should not come as a surprise to you, but discrepancies in quality exist across our national education system.

Opportunities… I’m not even going to go there.

Since I do not want to derail this very important thread, I will add my $.02: Hotter, doctors or nurses? Nurses, obviously. The sexy nurse outfit is a staple of adult novelty stores nationwide. If the general public thought that doctors were sexy, there would be skintight doctor outfits made out of pleather. Sound kind of creepy? There’s your answer.
agreed, minus the nurse part, there are still a few very hot doctors, the thing is you see a lot more young female nurses than doctors at the hospital.
Oh and yes, nurses do take pride in their make up and shizzle.
 
Hmmm yes it true that there is a difference in clothing of female doctor or a nurse. But overall end of the day they are both related to medical field, which is more important then anything else. what say !!!
 
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