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trying to figure out what went wrong

Discussion in 'What Are My Chances?' started by talbo, May 30, 2008.

  1. talbo

    talbo 7+ Year Member

    May 30, 2008
    i would like to get some opinions regarding my chances

    i am graduating from a california school
    i have a 33 mcat (VR:9 PS: 14 BS: 10)
    GPA 3.88 ish
    BPCM 3.9 ish
    major: engineering

    -extensive leadership roles - a lot of them with long commitment (longest one is 4 years): probably my best EC - won awards cause of this
    -2 summer research
    -1 long term research in molecular biology ~2.5 yrs
    -1.5 yr hospital volunteer
    -0.5 yr free clinic volunteer - clinic assistant
    -worked 15-20 hrs/wk since sophmore year
    -numerous scholarhips (6+)
    -numerous awards (service, scholastic, some big ones from my school, etc) (5+)
    -IM sports
    -some other random stuff?

    i was wondering what my chances are... i am actually a re-applicant and applied in mid august last year n received interviews at some places including UCLA, etc but WL everywhere

    i tend to believe my lack of success is due to a late application and mediocre essays since everything was finished around mid october to november and there were a lot of things i did not know (didn't find out bout SDN till later... =(..) i dont have a lot of pre-meds in my classes and did not know this process was THIS demanding. Also my GPA dipped a little since the 2008 cycle ( was a 3.9 cum and a 3.92 BPCM). I was even reconsider taking the MCAT again to score better since I thought that was the factor, didn't take a formal MCAT prep course.

    thank you and i hope to hear some inputs
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  3. scarletgirl777

    scarletgirl777 7+ Year Member

    Mar 25, 2008
    Call the schools and ask what went wrong. There is something else wrong here. You might have a bad letter of recommendation or personal statement. Or you might have applied to only top 30 schools. Also, the schools you were WL'ed at, you still have a chance for. Send them numerous letters of interest/update.
  4. paradocs we are

    paradocs we are In love with you 2+ Year Member

    Apr 2, 2007
    The Falls
    Apply earlier this time round.

    Also, make sure all your LORs are 150% SUPPORTIVE ones.

    Let every person you know read your PS. You'd be surprised.

    Contact the schools you have been waitlisted and send them LOIs.

    Ask the rest of the schools if they can give you feedback on why your application wasn't succesful.

    If you're rejected at the end from all schools, contact the schools that offered you an interview and try to gain feedback.

    Good luck! Don't give up hope. It will happen.
  5. jetspeeder

    jetspeeder 5+ Year Member

    Nov 27, 2007
    like the previous post, i would suggest to apply early and more broadly this time around

    also contact schools that you did not get interviews and make sure your PS and other stuff are all well written

    good luck!
  6. talbo

    talbo 7+ Year Member

    May 30, 2008
    thanks everyone for the input,

    all my LORs are good to excellent except for maybe 1 which unfortunately is from the lab i worked in the longest, need to talk to my PI

    i just e-mailed some schools getting feedback on what went wrong with my application hopefully will get some feedback

    i will need to edit my PS a lot, i think it wasn't well written, i did spend a decent amt of time on it, but i am not a good writer so i think it still turned out to be mediocre

    thanks again to everyone
  7. flip26

    flip26 2+ Year Member

    Dec 20, 2007
    The only thing that really stands out is that you did not return secondaries soon enough. Otherwise there is not enough info here without knowing where you applied.
  8. talbo

    talbo 7+ Year Member

    May 30, 2008
    here are the schools i applied to

    rosalind franklin
    albert einstein
    boston university
    mount sinai

    and some other schools i cant recall off the top of my head
    i interviewed at some UCs, albert einstein, NYMC, and drexel
    most of my secondaries were finished in mid october to november

    i think my secondary essays were mediocre to very good, depending on the topic addressed. i try to debug what went wrong and believe it's applying late and maybe perhaps my patient contact experience was not as sufficient compared to a lot of ppl which I am trying very hard to correct this time around by volunteering 9 - 15 hrs/wk at a local clinic with direct contact with patients.

    my activities secton wasn't as good as it could be b/c i left some stuff out cuz i thought it was too much (it was pretty stupid...) i don't think i painted the best picture to adcom last time around which i m also trying to fix

    my new list of school this time around are:

    UC Davis
    Mount Sinai
    Saint Louis
    Univ of Vermont
    Univ of Virginia
    Albert Einstein
    Univ of Maryland
    Univ of Chicago
    Univ of Miami
    Medical College of Wisconsin

    don't know if i should even keep these on the list
    Washington Univ

    there are reach schools on my lists and also schools i think have a decent shot at getting in as well as safety schools, what do you guys think of the list of schools?
  9. cleothecat

    cleothecat 10+ Year Member

    Feb 1, 2007
    Many schools look at the LOr's after the interview

    One lukewarm (or worse negative) letter could sink the best application
  10. 194342

    194342 Physician 7+ Year Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    I'd add u on cinci and ohio state. Both are very receptive to oos'ers with numbers like yours.

    good luck!
  11. talbo

    talbo 7+ Year Member

    May 30, 2008
    i have a big dilemma right now, so i am preparing my application to reapply and asking my LOR writers to write new updated letters. I am trying to fix whatever mistake I made last cycle and I believe I am doing quite well on that track but stumbled upon something that I need suggestions.

    So my LOR from the lab I have been working the longest I believe is mediocre and I believe like many of you have noted taht it will raise a flag, or make a very good application look not as good. I have been putting a lot more hours recently in his lab b/c course load has been gettin more light and I have more time to spend on my projects. I will most likely continue to research in his lab half time during the year taht i re-apply but will not be there this summer since i have an obligated job that i took on for the summer period. i was wondering if i should ask him to write me a LOR now or wait till I come back in september (but I won't be doing nething over the summer in the lab). Should I explain my situation to him asking him to write a longer LOR (I never read his LOR but I saw it was only 1 page long when he printed it out before sealing it) and tell him taht I really need a strong LOR from him? I need some advice here. Thank you.
  12. talbo

    talbo 7+ Year Member

    May 30, 2008
    neone have ne suggestions to my question above?
  13. Didmybest

    Didmybest 2+ Year Member

    Aug 1, 2007
    Mayo is a waste of money, but as has been mentioned before you have good numbers and nice extracurricular activities, something went wrong beyond your control (unless its the essays).

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