TUCOM-CA students accepted for fall 05

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deejayshakur said:
hey all, just an fyi to keep in mind while searching for housing.

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/
http://www.ci.vallejo.ca.us/GovSite/default.asp?serviceID1=305&Frame=L1
http://vallejo.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm

not sure how releveant these sites are so maybe somebody more familiar with the area can comment.


so now i'm feeling a little uneasy...

... i've been talking to people i know from up there and they've been saying it's not as ghetto as everybody thinks. as with a lot of places, it has it's bad parts and it's good. They say it's not as bad as LA, but no where close to the equivalent of irvine/la jolla (sorry, i'm from socal, my view is limited of the rest of the world 😉 ) . non of you happen to big strong men that would be interested in protecting us, would you?

j/k i'm sure we'll be fine...just keep an eye out.
 
Hey guys... since Davis is truly farm country, I've driven through the Vallejo area probably 10 times in just the past week alone. I'm sure the current TUCOM students can give you more facts, but just a few observations from me:

- the downtown core area of Vallejo's beaten up, but it's definitely not gang-bang central. It's far from West Oakland, Compton, East Palo Alto, or what not.

- the east/north areas of Vallejo look great. A lot of newer townhomes, condos, houses, etc. Very suburban feel.

- I don't really know much about Glen Cove/Benecia. It sounds very cute, albeit a few decades old.

- there's basically 2 ways to Mare Island from the I-80: via Tennessee street, or highway 37. Tennessee winds through downtown, and that's the route you'll take coming from the south (if you live in Benecia). It takes a good 10-15 min. Highway 37 is on the north end of Vallejo... and right now can get busy during traffic hours. But construction on 37 will be completed by December of this year, turning it into an uninterrupted 4-lane highway all the way from I-80 to Mare Island. By the end of this year, 37 will be a more convenient way of getting to Touro.

- And with that in mind... let me put in a word for anyone that might consider being neighbors with us in Fairfield. 🙂 We looked at a very nice, very new apartment complex with incredibly convenient freeway access called the Bridgeport Ranch. Here's their website:
http://www.bridgeportranchapartments.com

Rents and apartment sizes seem roughly comparable to Spyglass. Pool, spa, gym, those big bowl-type master baths... The area is brand spanking new, with new shopping/restaurants/malls off of Green Valley Rd. Check out both complexes!

- By the way, Lennar Mare Island reports 47 homes now sold as of March 1st, with no home remaining unsold for more than 24 hours... you'll see these new homes off on your right side as you drive to campus. 4 new homes sold per week, currently. Some multifamily units (apartments) on MI have been fully approved by the city, but Lennar hasn't announced when they'll start construction as of yet.
 
Hi Everyone...I just have a quick question...Why did you guys choose Touro over other schools??? besides the fact that it's in California! 🙂
 
Highest MCAT scores of any osteopathic school. Intelligent, interesting students.
 
Congrats all for getting accepted,

I am applying to TUCOM, working on my supplemental app at the moment. Just wondering how long after your application was complete that you got an interview. Also, what kind of statistics it will take to get an interview and accepted if you don't mind giving your own numbers. Do I have much of a chance applying so late? My GPA is 3.35 and MCAT of 34 from 2002.
 
You should get in no problem. Except that you are applying so late.
 
apotrophy said:
Congrats all for getting accepted,

I am applying to TUCOM, working on my supplemental app at the moment. Just wondering how long after your application was complete that you got an interview. Also, what kind of statistics it will take to get an interview and accepted if you don't mind giving your own numbers. Do I have much of a chance applying so late? My GPA is 3.35 and MCAT of 34 from 2002.
You should still have a decent chance of getting in with those numbers, even though it is late. My application wasn't complete until mid January, and about 3 1/2 weeks later I got my interview. My GPA is 3.4 and MCAT 24, yes 24! and I still got in. You just have to have good recs, extra-curriculars etc. and do well if you get an interview. Good Luck!
 
Ha, cute article in the local Vallejo article. And reassuring to know TUCOM does have this type of patient interaction training. Do most COMs?

http://www.timesheraldonline.com/Stories/0,1413,296~31531~2769626,00.html

Touro University looking for a few good medical patients

By RACHEL RASKIN-ZRIHEN, Times-Herald staff writer

If you don't mind the idea of being the subject of medical students' practice, then has Vallejo's Touro University got a part-time, occasional job for you.
The Mare Island osteopathic medical school is paying people to pretend to be patients for its medical students, but it's not as scary as it sounds. In fact, at least one local resident who's done it says it's fun and interesting. And a local doctor insists it produces better medical professionals.

The program works by training people called "standardized patients" to pretend to have certain symptoms as well as medical and family histories. Medical students examine and diagnose them, said the program's lab director Cee Harrelson. There are no invasive procedures.

"They use this system to hone their communication and clinical reasoning skills," Harrelson said. "All medical schools do this. Stanford, U.C. Davis, U.C. San Francisco, all have these programs."

Touro is offering an explanatory demonstration Tuesday of the program, called the OSCE (Objective Structural Clinical Evaluation) System.

Most medical schools have an OSCE program, which helps medical students practice their bedside manner and diagnostic skills.

Touro's Dr. Greg Troll of Sebastopol, said standardized patients have become an important tool for turning out well-rounded doctors, pharmacists, medical assistants and other medical professionals. The practice was devised about 25 years ago.

"My training at Stanford included it in the early years of the movement," Troll said. "We've gotten more sophisticated at it over the past decade.

"In the old days, they only gave doctors written tests, and there was no way to see if he was good at talking with patents or getting information from them or giving exams," he said.

For $10 per hour, the standardized patient is told what his or her medical symptoms are, along with the answers to questions the medical student will likely ask, Harrelson said. "Patients" are expected to remain in character in an exam room, as medical students visit them and others in an assembly-line-like manner.

The "doctor's appointment" is designed to be as realistic as possible, including its brevity.

"The medical students greet the patients and visit with them for 13 minutes," Harrelson said. "Then a bell rings, and they leave, and spend seven minutes documenting their findings, and then go on to the next patient."

Harrelson said all Touro's medical and physician assistant students will be tested in this way twice a year, with each session lasting eight to 10 days.

The school needs people of all ages 18 and older, of both genders, all sizes, shapes, colors and ethnicities, Harrelson said.

The sessions are digitally documented and later the students are assessed by their "patients" and graded by their professors, based on their performance.Pamela Hudson of Vallejo, 51, has been a pretend patient at Touro twice once as a patient with menopause and once, suffering from headaches.

"It's difficult in that I had to evaluate 15 students in one day," said Hudson, whose daughter is a fourth-year medical student at Touro. "It's interesting to see the different approach each student takes how confident or nervous he or she is."

Harrelson said she enjoys seeing her students transformed.

"It's wonderful to see the student come through the door and be the doctor they're training to be," she said.

- E-mail Rachel Raskin-Zrihen at [email protected] or call 553-6824.

********************************
Get paid to be a patient

What: "Standardized patient" demonstration and explanation
When: 1 to 3 p.m. Tuesday
Where: Touro University, Building H-86, Room 122, Mare Island
Call: 638-5869
 
i was under the impression that all medical schools--osteopathic ones included--utilized standardized patients. seems like tucom's just advertising to the community, which is a good thing.
 
Anyone receive the financial aid packet yet? Have you done the Graduate entrance test online?
 
deejayshakur,

I heard WVSOM, for one, doesn't hire standardized patients because of budget problems. I've heard they use faculty and other staff to act as patients as a cost-saving measure.

I did a google search, and I see that COMP/Western received a 3-year grant to experiment with a "new" standardized patient program back in 1998... but obviously, those 3 years have elapsed. I don't know if Western/COMP received new funding, and/or offer standarized patient training at this point.
 
No, haven't got it. Should I have?
 
bth7 said:
No, haven't got it. Should I have?

Hmmm....I figured everyone that got accepted so far got one already. I received my fin. aid packet in the mail last Thursday (in a big yellow envelope). I'm in the process of trying to figure out what kind of loan to get. I've never asked for a loan before so all this is new to me. In undergrad, I was able to pay for my tuition via calvet (a fee waiver program for dependents of those in the military...my dad is retired from the navy).
 
got mine last week. still working on fafsa/tax forms. it's kinda scary.
 
Hi everybody,
just decided to go to TUCOM Cali after weeks of soul searching and comparing the other 5 DO programs that I got into. So you guys don't think that the way the campus looks is a big turn off? That was almost a deal breaker for me, but the San Francisco and Napa Valley area and the high possibility of ending up in California for Residency is what did it for me. It was between Des Moines, Tampa Bay, and San Francisco. I hope I made the right choice.

D
 
I think the way the campus looked (past-tense) is a big turn-off. But it's getting better, I think. (For one thing, I finally played Mare Island Golf Course a few weeks ago. It's cute! Any other golfers out there? You'll love the Vallejo area; several great golf courses ranging from the cheap to the very nice within a 10 mile radius.)

And here's a view of the new model homes that Lennar just opened up on Mare Island this past weekend. By the time you guys start school, there will be ~100 of these $700k+ homes on the drive to campus.

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http://www.timesheraldonline.com/Stories/0,1413,296~31531~2775752,00.html#
 
welcome denon! If you truly care about being in CA for residency, how the campus is for your 2 years of preclinical shouldn't matter. It's only two years, then you have 2 years rotations in great CA sites. Then you have a better shot of getting that coveted CA residency. You'll have fun here anyway those first two years. We'll make sure of that!
 
Unless of course your tag means you're a Laker fan. Then we may have issues 😀
 
For those of you from the bay area and know about these things -- are there many A's or Giants games on non-cable channels, or are they mostly on cable?
 
MasterShakeDO said:
Unless of course your tag means you're a Laker fan. Then we may have issues 😀

what about maverick fans? (or cowboys/texas rangers/texas stars fans for that matter) 😉
 
uhoh man. i'm from philly and we're kinda known for hating cowboys fans.
 
apotrophy said:
Congrats all for getting accepted,

I am applying to TUCOM, working on my supplemental app at the moment. Just wondering how long after your application was complete that you got an interview. Also, what kind of statistics it will take to get an interview and accepted if you don't mind giving your own numbers. Do I have much of a chance applying so late? My GPA is 3.35 and MCAT of 34 from 2002.

my application was complete 3/11 (friday) and I received my interview invite 3/13; my interview invite & post card indicating my file was complete arrived the same day. but then again.. my interview is scheduled for late april; which lowers my chances of a seat. but an interview is atleast a shot 🙂
 
MasterShakeDO said:
welcome denon! If you truly care about being in CA for residency, how the campus is for your 2 years of preclinical shouldn't matter. It's only two years, then you have 2 years rotations in great CA sites. Then you have a better shot of getting that coveted CA residency. You'll have fun here anyway those first two years. We'll make sure of that!


Thanks MastershakeDO! Don't worry I'm not a Lakers Fan.
 
Hi everyone! I have been reading this thread for a while now and I am glad to see that I will be going to school with a great group of people this fall. I never say anything because quite frankly, I'm reading SDN while at work (when I should be working) and I never have time to actually reply. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and promise to start posting responses. 😳

Has anyone found a place to live yet?
 
Alisha09 said:
Hi everyone! I have been reading this thread for a while now and I am glad to see that I will be going to school with a great group of people this fall. I never say anything because quite frankly, I'm reading SDN while at work (when I should be working) and I never have time to actually reply. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and promise to start posting responses. 😳

Has anyone found a place to live yet?

I think its about time I start doing the same.
 
lktm831 said:
my application was complete 3/11 (friday) and I received my interview invite 3/13; my interview invite & post card indicating my file was complete arrived the same day. but then again.. my interview is scheduled for late april; which lowers my chances of a seat. but an interview is atleast a shot 🙂
I checked out the TUCOM website today. They've extended the interview process through June. So I think you have a pretty good chance of getting in. 👍 Good luck with your interview :luck:
 
calichik said:
I checked out the TUCOM website today. They've extended the interview process through June. So I think you have a pretty good chance of getting in. 👍 Good luck with your interview :luck:


What do you think this means? I think they did this last year. It feels a little odd to me, especially that they would put this banner on their website. Are they saying "we're desperate, please apply"? What's the message here?

I'm looking into living situations. A few questions, maybe one of you knows. Does Wilderman hall have single rooms, or is everything shared? Are they're any cooking facilities in the building? Has anyone actually been inside it? I don't need creature comforts, but I at least need a private bedroom. I would live there for the convienece and to havea sense of community with other students.

In the same vein, I'm seriously thinking about living in the East Bay. I'm just looking for a little life, a walkable neighboorhood with interesting places to eat, cool people, etc. I figure I'm more likely to have a life outside studying if I at least live in a cool place.
 
There are singles and doubles. You can ask for either. I think the singles are 9 by 12 in Wilderman, with a private bath in each. If you want one, you should send in a form and a $50 deposit soon -- it's first come, first serve. I am planning living there first year, and maybe try to live somewhere slightly outside of Vallejo second year.
The rooms are small, but there is something nice about being able to wake up at 7:55 for an 8:00 class.
 
9x12 feet? That seems pretty small. Is there any other living space? Like a shared room? Any cooking facilities in the building?

From looking at the PDF online, it seems like the rooms in this Mare Island Residence Hall are perhaps a bit bigger? Any thoughts on Wilderman v. MIRH?

Agreed, the 5 minutes to class thing can't be beat. But I'm going to be 29 in August. I feel like I'm past the "dorm" phase of my life. Maybe I'm being silly.
 
Whoops... 9'*16'


bth7 said:
9x12 feet? That seems pretty small. Is there any other living space? Like a shared room? Any cooking facilities in the building?

From looking at the PDF online, it seems like the rooms in this Mare Island Residence Hall are perhaps a bit bigger? Any thoughts on Wilderman v. MIRH?

Agreed, the 5 minutes to class thing can't be beat. But I'm going to be 29 in August. I feel like I'm past the "dorm" phase of my life. Maybe I'm being silly.
 
the rooms are different sizes depending, and priced likewise. there's a shared fridge/oven on the first floor.
 
bth7 said:
What do you think this means? I think they did this last year. It feels a little odd to me, especially that they would put this banner on their website. Are they saying "we're desperate, please apply"? What's the message here?
I don't think it necessarily means that they are desperate. You have to keep in mind that May 15 is the deadline for applicants to hold multiple acceptances (correct me if I'm wrong). So it's not guaranteed that those that have been accepted and turned in their initial deposits are really going to choose TUCOM. IMO, I think it's more of a precautionary step to ensure that the class will be full by the time school starts. I mean who knows?..They could be short a couple of seats by the time applicants have made their final decisions on May 15. So then the adcom would have to re-review their stack of applications and decide who else is worthy of an interview.

Just my thoughts 😉
 
dignan said:
If you want one, you should send in a form and a $50 deposit soon -- it's first come, first serve.
So what does this mean? Are we expected to print out the form now and send it in asap? Or are we supposed to wait to hear from TUCOM first regarding housing?

I myself would prefer the 5 minute walk to class over commuting during my first year of med school.
 
I will be starting in August along with the rest of you young whiper snappers!!! :laugh:

I look forward to school - I have waited along time to realize this dream and may even show up for a beer or two (kids will be sleeping anyway 😴 )

Good luck everyone and lets have a collegial year working together and succeeding!

The Old Man
 
how are utilities billed in the dorms? any other costs involved besides rent? we didn't get a chance to see them during our tour.
 
oldManDO2009 said:
I will be starting in August along with the rest of you young whiper snappers!!! :laugh:

I look forward to school - I have waited along time to realize this dream and may even show up for a beer or two (kids will be sleeping anyway 😴 )

Good luck everyone and lets have a collegial year working together and succeeding!

The Old Man

Congratulations Old Man! Welcome to our class!! :clap:


As for the housing, I didn't get to see it on my tour either. My tour guide gave my group the impression that it was not a desirable place to live. I would also prefer a 5:00 commute to school but I think that I may loose my sanity if I don't have a sanctuary to go to when class gets a little rough. How much does it cost to stay on the island anyway?
 
Hey guys,

I've been accepted to and am really excited but am still trying to figure out some details about residencies and living situation.

Anyone have some info on whether residencies are done locally? ie. can we live in one spot?
 
Zoolanderr said:
Hey guys,

I've been accepted to and am really excited but am still trying to figure out some details about residencies and living situation.

Anyone have some info on whether residencies are done locally? ie. can we live in one spot?

I meant rotations
 
Zoolanderr, take a look at TUCOM's hospital affiliations page.
The students at TUCOM-Mare Island are more likely to travel and relocate, than the students at TUCOM-Henderson. Check out the MISL webpage as well. You will see lots of students writing about out of state clerkship experiences.
Touro University-Nevada wants its students to do clerkships primarily in Nevada, so relocating is optional, but are set up so that we can do all of our clerkships in Henderson and Las Vegas.
 
this has nothing to do with tucom, but

happy birthday, mastershakeDO! :clap:
 
hahaha. thanks buddy. I feel old now, but my guess is that oldmanDO2009 is older than I am since I'm not calling anyone whipper snappers soon =)
 
Is there any married housing on the Island? Does anyone know?

I'm not in yet, but I am being optomistic.

Congrats to all those that got in.
 
Is anyone planning on making a trip down to campus to find housing if they're not living on campus?
It might be helpful to meet up?
Maybe not..hehe =)
 
Hey aphasia, how'd you make out on the poker tour! Give us details about sin on the high seas! And are you still working up at Harrah's this spring?

(pjpajamas and I just got back from Vegas. Somebody, anybody, keep me from that cursed craps table for the rest of my life.)

I'm expecting to move into my house in Fairfield in early July. Anyone that's coming from out of town to look for housing then (and has no criminal record.. or at least, no active warrants, thanks) are more than welcome to crash at my place for a few days while they get settled!
 
happy bday mastershakedo - I probably am the oldest (whipper snaper might be an over statement - LOL). I am going up to the campus tomorrow to look around and figure out the commute. I am living in sunnyvale right now and will begin looking for housing a little closer to school but not to far from my wife's job. I will probably keep my job and just work one day a week (will be sooooo broke 🙄 ) and more on breaks - so i want to be a little closer to work which is by my wife's work....anyway look forward to meeting everyone soon enough.

BTW - is anyone starting to review. I am working on biochemistry right now and hope to get to microbiology before school starts. just compensating for my advanced age :laugh: :laugh:


old man
 
I got in! I got in IgotinIgotinIgotin!

::does the patented happy dance::

I'll be seeing you guys in the fall.

Also, does anyone know anything about how on campus/on Mare Island housing works? I was led to believe that if I wanted it I could get it. Is this true? Does anyone know?

Any information is greatly appreciated. 🙂
 
Windbringer1 said:
I got in! I got in IgotinIgotinIgotin!

::does the patented happy dance::

I'll be seeing you guys in the fall.

Also, does anyone know anything about how on campus/on Mare Island housing works? I was led to believe that if I wanted it I could get it. Is this true? Does anyone know?

Any information is greatly appreciated. 🙂

how long after you interviewed that you were notified of your status? just curious. thanks!

and congrats on the acceptance!
 
Windbringer1 said:
I got in! I got in IgotinIgotinIgotin!

::does the patented happy dance::

I'll be seeing you guys in the fall.

Also, does anyone know anything about how on campus/on Mare Island housing works? I was led to believe that if I wanted it I could get it. Is this true? Does anyone know?

Any information is greatly appreciated. 🙂


Congratulations Windbringer1 and Zoolanderr! Also, happy birthday mastershakeDO! :clap:

Ok, I have a little issue. I have been so excited about going to Touro that I didn't realize that the majority of the population has no idea about osteopathic medicine. I have a friend that is from the Benicia area and when she asked her mom talk to some people about housing her mom said that " It's not a real medical school, and that I must not be specializing in anything"

Now I do admit that I want to go into primary care and don't plan on going into something like cardiac surgery, but I would still go into primary care even if I were going to an MD school. I guess my question is: Is anyone else dealing with the same problem? If so then how are you dealing with the misconceptions? 😕
 
lktm831 said:
how long after you interviewed that you were notified of your status? just curious. thanks!

and congrats on the acceptance!

Two weeks. That's because I interviewed the week before the admissions commitee was meeting. I think it depends exactly when you interview. Also, because they told me within two weeks, I was given two weeks to respond.
 
Alisha09 said:
Ok, I have a little issue. I have been so excited about going to Touro that I didn't realize that the majority of the population has no idea about osteopathic medicine. I have a friend that is from the Benicia area and when she asked her mom talk to some people about housing her mom said that " It's not a real medical school, and that I must not be specializing in anything"

Now I do admit that I want to go into primary care and don't plan on going into something like cardiac surgery, but I would still go into primary care even if I were going to an MD school. I guess my question is: Is anyone else dealing with the same problem? If so then how are you dealing with the misconceptions? 😕

My mother is an MD. When I told her I wanted to go DO, she was totally 110% supportive. We had a talk about this issue, and this is what she told me. First, you should in no way *believe* it when people tell you DO is "less than MD" or "not real medicine", because it is simply not true. Second, most MDs and DOs interact very well, and the only ones who try to put down DOs are probably the kind of stuck up bastards you don't want to talk to anyway. Third, there are a lot of people who know DOs but don't know that they do. For example, my uncle is kind of an ass, and he was grilling me about DO not being "real med school". My aunt shushed him and then sotto voce informed me that *one of his physicians whom he greatly respects* is a DO. It's not like you're going to go up to people and say, Hi, I'm Dr. So-and-so, DO. Nobody does that. There are DO cardiac surgeons, orthopods, psychiatrists, ER docs, everything. The DO I shadowed under here is the head of infectious disease in my area.

Also, your friend's mother is being silly, because in CA and in the SF Bay area especially, the focus on more holistic medical practices actually means quite a few DOs. She probably just hasn't had that forcibly brought to her attention.

Don't let people tell you you are lesser. You're going to run into ignorance wherever you go, really, and you just have to learn to set them straight. It's all going to be fine, because we're going to go out there and kick ass and show them what great doctors we can be! :clap:
 
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