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So i was in the "on hold" pile that was for the highly desirable candidates, and today, my status check is no longer available. Like, I sign in, and I'm lead to a blank page. Does this mean that they closed my file and rejected me? I think someone at umich said that if you're rejected, they just delete your status page...

any thoughts?
 
oreo85 said:
So i was in the "on hold" pile that was for the highly desirable candidates, and today, my status check is no longer available. Like, I sign in, and I'm lead to a blank page. Does this mean that they closed my file and rejected me? I think someone at umich said that if you're rejected, they just delete your status page...

any thoughts?

i bet its just a computer glitch. they are meeting on the 15th. this is post-interview right?
 
I checked my status page for you to make sure the whole system isn't down. However, mine is working just fine. I don't think they'd take yours down if they were rejecting you though. I'm like 95% sure they would NOT do that.

FYI, I was accepted 10/15.
 
Anyone know anything more about this?
 
You will not move from the deferred decision list to the rejection list. That does not make sense. You have a greater chance at getting accepted than those on the regular waitlist. So unless something changed over the last few months (for instance, egging the Dead of the Med school's house), you will get a new (or the same) status change within the next few days.

Could also just be a weird glitch, but I very highly doubt that.
 
thegenius said:
You will not move from the deferred decision list to the rejection list. That does not make sense. You have a greater chance at getting accepted than those on the regular waitlist. So unless something changed over the last few months (for instance, egging the Dead of the Med school's house), you will get a new (or the same) status change within the next few days.

Could also just be a weird glitch, but I very highly doubt that.

Being deferred doesnt mean there is a greater chance of being accepted than those on the waitlist. Deferred decision just means the app wasnt worth rejecting and wasnt worth accepting or placing on the waitlist. It just means action will be taken later.
 
attaboybambeeks said:
Being deferred doesnt mean there is a greater chance of being accepted than those on the waitlist. Deferred decision just means the app wasnt worth rejecting and wasnt worth accepting or placing on the waitlist. It just means action will be taken later.
That is not the explanation I received from the admissions staff. Deferred decision candidates have their file review on a regular basis because Michigan wants to give them the opportunity to accept them at any time. If you are on the regular, normal waitlist, it is just like every other waitlist. As spots open after people start sending withdraw notices, they will pull people off the waitlist.

But preference is given to those on the deferred decision waitlist.

In summary it is all one, big waitlist but those categorized as "deferred decision" are higher up that the other ones.
 
my status page now says:

Application Status as of 03/10/2006
We cannot make an admissions offer to you this year, therefore, we are closing your file.
 
noonday said:
my status page now says:

Application Status as of 03/10/2006
We cannot make an admissions offer to you this year, therefore, we are closing your file.
Were you interviewed?
 
for those of us interviewing late in the cycle that were told we'd hear by march 15. Can we expect to see an update on our status page (if the news isnt good, that is) on the 15th? Also, I recall TI89 being accepted soon after our feb 24 interview date. Do you believe that by this point they wont be handing out anymore acceptances (unless from the waitlist)? I always thought Mich to be the type of school that accepts kids they really like pretty soon after their interview. Id appreciate any illumination here.
 
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attaboybambeeks said:
for those of us interviewing late in the cycle that were told we'd hear by march 15. Can we expect to see an update on our status page (if the news isnt good, that is) on the 15th? Also, I recall TI89 being accepted soon after our feb 24 interview date. Do you believe that by this point they wont be handing out anymore acceptances (unless from the waitlist)? I always thought Mich to be the type of school that accepts kids they really like pretty soon after their interview. Id appreciate any illumination here.


According to their chat last week (before the 3/10 interview date) they had ~10 maybe up to 15 offers of admission left to make.


Additionally, I am pretty sure there will be some waitist movement this year.

I haven't seen anyone on here post that they got an acceptace lately (alteast non from feb onwards) except mine. Although obviously many people don't post here.
 
ti89 said:
According to their chat last week (before the 3/10 interview date) they had ~10 maybe up to 15 offers of admission left to make.
Someone who interviewed last Friday (with ~25 people) said that they were told that the committee still could offer admission to everyone interviewing. Not that they would be doing that, but they could...

ti89 said:
Additionally, I am pretty sure there will be some waitist movement this year.
I'm also pretty sure that will be the case. I know they planed to offer fewer acceptances initially so that they didn't end up "overbooked" like last year.
 
SailCrazy said:
Someone who interviewed last Friday (with ~25 people) said that they were told that the committee still could offer admission to everyone interviewing. Not that they would be doing that, but they could...

I'm also pretty sure that will be the case. I know they planed to offer fewer acceptances initially so that they didn't end up "overbooked" like last year.
Maybe they're saying "they could add more acceptances if they wanted to" in addition to the ones they're planning to give out. (Meaning, they said there will be 38% of 800 accepted, but they can always accept more if they like them enough.)
 
happydays said:
Maybe they're saying "they could add more acceptances if they wanted to" in addition to the ones they're planning to give out. (Meaning, they said there will be 38% of 800 accepted, but they can always accept more if they like them enough.)
Could be. Who knows!?! 😕
 
SailCrazy said:
Could be. Who knows!?! 😕
It's got to be like that, because 38.2% of 800 is 306, and 5% of 306 is 15. and 15 is not equal to 25.
 
happydays said:
It's got to be like that, because 38.2% of 800 is 306, and 5% of 306 is 15. and 15 is not equal to 25.
I'm sticking with my authoritative "who knows." 😀
In one of the earlier chats they said they'd be accepting somewhere around 320 this year, which doesn't equal 38.2% of 800. 😛
Maybe it will only be 306, maybe it will be more.
 
SailCrazy said:
I'm sticking with my authoritative "who knows." 😀
In one of the earlier chats they said they'd be accepting somewhere around 320 this year, which doesn't equal 38.2% of 800. 😛
Maybe it will only be 306, maybe it will be more.

I never really understood mich's status page...here is the latest:
can anyone explain this to me? thanks


2006 Admission Facts

Applications Received: 4775

Interviews
Offered:
Scheduled: 799
Remaining: 1

Admissions
Offers made: 98%
Updated 03/06/2006
 
They said by around 5pm wed it should be updated.

Best of luck to all those waiting!
 
ti89 said:
They said by around 5pm wed it should be updated.

Best of luck to all those waiting!

My status has changed...waitlist for me... 🙁 good luck to everyone.
 
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maria219 said:
My status has changed...waitlist for me... 🙁 good luck to everyone.

Me too. More waiting. I'm on the upper tier waitlist, with about 100 other candidates.
 
thegenius said:
Me too. More waiting. I'm on the upper tier waitlist, with about 100 other candidates.

where does is say which tier you are in?
 
thegenius said:
Me too. More waiting. I'm on the upper tier waitlist, with about 100 other candidates.

If you are in the upper tier I would think you have a pretty good shot of getting in off the waitlist. Except for last year michigan has had pretty decent waitlist movement.

Hopefully May15th or shortly afterwards you will get in (which I think is highly probable).

:luck:
 
amand0r said:
where does is say which tier you are in?

It says it on my status page:

Application Status as of 03/15/2006
Upper Tier Waitlist - We have now concluded our admission process and extended our initial set of admission offers. Any additional offers would come out of the waitlist when/if our class size were to drop below 170 students. There are approximately 285 individuals on the alternate list and they are fairly evenly distributed across the three tiers. We will not know until much closer to May 15 the frequency or range of activity from our alternate list. We appreciate your consideration and patience.
 
Anyone know traditionally, how many ppl come off umich's waitlist ? (not counting last year since they overaccepted)
 
ti89 said:
If you are in the upper tier I would think you have a pretty good shot of getting in off the waitlist. Except for last year michigan has had pretty decent waitlist movement.

Hopefully May15th or shortly afterwards you will get in (which I think is highly probable).

:luck:

You think so? They probably admitted 310-320 candidates, and the upper waitlist tier has about 100 people. So they might admit up to 420 candidates?

In years past, what is the average number of candidates that Michigan gives offers to? What kind of range are we talking about?
 
maria219 said:
I never really understood mich's status page...here is the latest:
can anyone explain this to me? thanks


2006 Admission Facts

Applications Received: 4775

Interviews
Offered:
Scheduled: 799
Remaining: 1

Admissions
Offers made: 98%
Updated 03/06/2006
Since they planned on interviewing 800 applicants, they have given out 799 interviews and have one interview left to offer (the 'offered' means that they haven't given out any interviews that have still yet to be scheduled). Additionally, they have made 98% of the admissions offers they wanted to (so if they initially wanted to admit around 320 people, 320*.98 = 314 people accepted; see other posts above).
 
maria219 said:
Anyone know traditionally, how many ppl come off umich's waitlist ? (not counting last year since they overaccepted)


I know from like 3 years ago one person I know got in from the 2nd tier. But I have no clue the size of each tier that year or how many total were offered from waitlist.
 
thegenius said:
You think so? They probably admitted 310-320 candidates, and the upper waitlist tier has about 100 people. So they might admit up to 420 candidates?

In years past, what is the average number of candidates that Michigan gives offers to? What kind of range are we talking about?


You are out of state? The thing is that I am sure many out of state candidates also have other choices so if they got into Umich (as do you also). But I know you have specific reasons for it being your #1 choice.

The thing is I bet many in state residents won't drop the umich acceptance (in state tution and quality can't be beat). They like a 50/50 mix and more out of staters will go else where (especially cali ppl who got into a ucsf etc).

So my bet is you would fall in a great spot to be one of the first off the waitlist.

I hope that made sense but I too lazy to proofread. 😛
 
ti89 said:
You are out of state? The thing is that I am sure many out of state candidates also have other choices so if they got into Umich (as do you also). But I know you have specific reasons for it being your #1 choice.

The thing is I bet many in state residents won't drop the umich acceptance (in state tution and quality can't be beat). They like a 50/50 mix and more out of staters will go else where (especially cali ppl who got into a ucsf etc).

So my bet is you would fall in a great spot to be one of the first off the waitlist.

I hope that made sense but I too lazy to proofread. 😛

Yea I'm out of state (from CA). And what you wrote made sense. I'll keep waiting. But we have to make a decision on where to go, and it won't be easy for us to just pick up on July 20th (or some late date in the process) and go to Michigan, if that is when I get in. We can wait maybe 30 days after May 15, or 45 days, but after that we need to start making plans.

Moving a family of four takes some careful coordination. 🙂
 
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ti89 said:
You are out of state? The thing is that I am sure many out of state candidates also have other choices so if they got into Umich (as do you also). But I know you have specific reasons for it being your #1 choice.

The thing is I bet many in state residents won't drop the umich acceptance (in state tution and quality can't be beat). They like a 50/50 mix and more out of staters will go else where (especially cali ppl who got into a ucsf etc).

So my bet is you would fall in a great spot to be one of the first off the waitlist.

I hope that made sense but I too lazy to proofread. 😛

So is this bad news for in-state waitlisters? Do u really think your residency will affect your placement on the waitlist? I'd hope that other factors would outweigh that....
 
maria219 said:
So is this bad news for in-state waitlisters? Do u really think your residency will affect your placement on the waitlist? I'd hope that other factors would outweigh that....

My guess is Michigan wants to have a 50/50 ratio of in-state and out-of-state students. So if many OOS students send in their withdrawals, then other OOS will be offered a position. ti89's logic seems reasonable to me.
 
maria219 said:
So is this bad news for in-state waitlisters? Do u really think your residency will affect your placement on the waitlist? I'd hope that other factors would outweigh that....


In state is different also because there are less in state people who interviewed thus less in staters on the waitlist. The person I know who got in off the 2nd tier was instate.
 
ti89 said:
In state is different also because there are less in state people who interviewed thus less in staters on the waitlist. The person I know who got in off the 2nd tier was instate.

Yeah...the logic makes sense...maybe I should move to another state and then perhaps I'll get off the waitlist? 😀
So do we call in on May 15th or March 30th to find additional info? (the March 30 is coming from umich's secondary website)
 
maria219 said:
Anyone know traditionally, how many ppl come off umich's waitlist ? (not counting last year since they overaccepted)
I heard it was in the 40-60 range the previous two years.

Good luck! :luck:
 
maria219 said:
Anyone know traditionally, how many ppl come off umich's waitlist ? (not counting last year since they overaccepted)

Rumor has it that they are under-accepting this year because of last year. I'm not sure if this means that more peole than usual will come off the waitlist or that they will have a smaller class of 2010. :luck:
 
SailCrazy said:
I heard it was in the 40-60 range the previous two years.

Good luck! :luck:

Thanks SailCrazy...makes me feel slightly better 🙂
 
Does this make sense? The number might be slightly off...(I wrote this to my mom...)

Michigan has offered, thus far, between 310-320 students a spot for their 2006 class. Historically, Michigan ends up offering between 375 - 425 total positions for each academic year (I'm not sure how entirely accurate those numbers are, but I'm close) for a class size of 170.

Last year, at this same time, Michigan made offers to about 375 students. Because so many candidates wanted to go to Michigan, Michigan never went below the 170 threshold and thus never dipped into their waitlist. Last year was an abberation; in years previous to last year Michigan would accept 375 students and then take additional students off the waitlist, perhaps offering admissions up to 425 total candidates.

Because Michigan had more students than they wanted for 2005, this year Michigan is exercising more caution. They are accepting fewer students up front, then as withdrawals come in AND as they dip below 170, they will give admissions offers to students off the waitlist.

If you believe in empirical evidence and trends, Michigan will be handing out, at a minimum, 50 more offers this year. It might be as high as 75 or 100.
 
thegenius said:
Does this make sense? The number might be slightly off...(I wrote this to my mom...)

Michigan has offered, thus far, between 310-320 students a spot for their 2006 class. Historically, Michigan ends up offering between 375 - 425 total positions for each academic year (I'm not sure how entirely accurate those numbers are, but I'm close) for a class size of 170.

Last year, at this same time, Michigan made offers to about 375 students. Because so many candidates wanted to go to Michigan, Michigan never went below the 170 threshold and thus never dipped into their waitlist. Last year was an abberation; in years previous to last year Michigan would accept 375 students and then take additional students off the waitlist, perhaps offering admissions up to 425 total candidates.

Because Michigan had more students than they wanted for 2005, this year Michigan is exercising more caution. They are accepting fewer students up front, then as withdrawals come in AND as they dip below 170, they will give admissions offers to students off the waitlist.

If you believe in empirical evidence and trends, Michigan will be handing out, at a minimum, 50 more offers this year. It might be as high as 75 or 100.

Wow, where did you find those numbers? This may be a stupid question but if they offered ~320 spots for 170 spots...doesnt that mean that quite a few withdrew already? It seems crazy that they would have to take 50 more ppl from the waitlist (not that i would complain!) I guess many ppl admitted at umich hold multiple acceptances and choose to withdraw? hmmm
 
maria219 said:
Wow, where did you find those numbers? This may be a stupid question but if they offered ~320 spots for 170 spots...doesnt that mean that quite a few withdrew already? It seems crazy that they would have to take 50 more ppl from the waitlist (not that i would complain!) I guess many ppl admitted at umich hold multiple acceptances and choose to withdraw? hmmm


Thing is for Michigan there is no deposit or anything due within a week or two. They have a spot for you and if you want to go for sure you can pay the deposit by may 15th.

The major question is will they have movement like in 03 and 04 or will it be similiar to 05.
 
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maria219 said:
Wow, where did you find those numbers? This may be a stupid question but if they offered ~320 spots for 170 spots...doesnt that mean that quite a few withdrew already? It seems crazy that they would have to take 50 more ppl from the waitlist (not that i would complain!) I guess many ppl admitted at umich hold multiple acceptances and choose to withdraw? hmmm

I got those numbers from various threads and information from UMich chats, admissions staff, etc. I think they are fairly close.

I guess the most important numbers are
1) how many Michigan has admitted, to date;
2) the range of total admits Michigan has offered in past years. I'm less sure about this one.
 
ti89 said:
Thing is for Michigan there is no deposit or anything due within a week or two. They have a spot for you and if you want to go for sure you can pay the deposit by may 15th.

The major question is will they have movement like in 03 and 04 or will it be similiar to 05.

A good question - I fear that they will probably have less waitlist movement because Michigan aggressively recruits candidates.
 
SailCrazy said:
I heard it was in the 40-60 range the previous two years.

Good luck! :luck:
That seems like a huge number compared to last year. I'm almost not sure about that number.

About 200 instaters are interviewed and 100 accepted each year. However, not that many instaters choose to go elsewhere after a UMMS acceptance, unless it's something compelling like Harvard. Only ~15-20 accepted instaters go elsewhere, according to #accepted and #matriculated data. If they were to take 50-60 off the waitlist, that means only 25-30 of the accepted OOS students choose to matriculate, out of the ~300 accepted. This just doesn't seem right.
 
happydays said:
That seems like a huge number compared to last year. I'm almost not sure about that number.

About 200 instaters are interviewed and 100 accepted each year. However, not that many instaters choose to go elsewhere after a UMMS acceptance, unless it's something compelling like Harvard. Only ~15-20 accepted instaters go elsewhere, according to #accepted and #matriculated data. If they were to take 50-60 off the waitlist, that means only 25-30 of the accepted OOS students choose to matriculate, out of the ~300 accepted. This just doesn't seem right.

I don't quite follow your numbers above...

So they (on average) accept 100 in-state and 300 OOS candidates each year. That doesn't seem completely unreasonable. Maybe they accept fewer OOS, like 250 or 275.

The problem is I've read so many conflicting things about UMMS that I should just ignore it and focus on going to some of the other schools I've gained acceptance to.
 
thegenius said:
I don't quite follow your numbers above...

So they (on average) accept 100 in-state and 300 OOS candidates each year. That doesn't seem completely unreasonable. Maybe they accept fewer OOS, like 250 or 275.

The problem is I've read so many conflicting things about UMMS that I should just ignore it and focus on going to some of the other schools I've gained acceptance to.
Each year, about 80-85 instaters matriculate. For a class of 170, pulling 50-60 off the waitlist will mean that 170-80-(50 or 60)=(30 or 40) out of the ~300 accepted out of state students matriculate. This number seems too low.

What kind of conflicting things have you read?
 
happydays said:
Each year, about 80-85 instaters matriculate. For a class of 170, pulling 50-60 off the waitlist will mean that 170-80-(50 or 60)=(30 or 40) out of the ~300 accepted out of state students matriculate. This number seems too low.

What kind of conflicting things have you read?


I think when they say 50 to 60 it could be people being called up and saying thanks but no thanks also.
 
happydays said:
Each year, about 80-85 instaters matriculate. For a class of 170, pulling 50-60 off the waitlist will mean that 170-80-(50 or 60)=(30 or 40) out of the ~300 accepted out of state students matriculate. This number seems too low.

What kind of conflicting things have you read?

"30 or 40 of the ~300 accepted OOS students matriculate" is low. It isn't even an issue of being low, it is basically (for all intents and purposes) impossible. We don't know if the 50-60 off the waitlist are in-state or OOS. This is why I have trouble following your post.

This is what I understand:

Each Year

85 in-state matriculate
85 OOS matriculate

100 in-state offers to matriculate
250-300 OOS offers to matriculate

350-400 total offers to matriculate.

These numbers obviously vary each year.

Oh yea - the conflicting numbers I've read are the total number of acceptances Michigan offers each year. I've seen it as low as in the 200's, and I remember seeing 435 one year. USNWR says one thing, the admissions office says another thing, posts on this forum say another thing, I don't know what to believe.
 
It is important to keep in mind that when Michigan invites someone off of the waitlist they may not accept that invitation...in fact I would guess that the matriculation % of people accepted off of the waitlist would not necessarily be that high. Students may already become settled with a school they are attending, or decide later that they'd take school X over Mich, or remain on the waitlist even though they dont believe they'd actually go (possible).

im upper tier waitlist, and dont feel so hot about it btw.
 
thegenius said:
"30 or 40 of the ~300 accepted OOS students matriculate" is low. It isn't even an issue of being low, it is basically (for all intents and purposes) impossible. We don't know if the 50-60 off the waitlist are in-state or OOS. This is why I have trouble following your post.

This is what I understand:

Each Year

85 in-state matriculate
85 OOS matriculate

100 in-state offers to matriculate
250-300 OOS offers to matriculate

350-400 total offers to matriculate.

These numbers obviously vary each year.

Oh yea - the conflicting numbers I've read are the total number of acceptances Michigan offers each year. I've seen it as low as in the 200's, and I remember seeing 435 one year. USNWR says one thing, the admissions office says another thing, posts on this forum say another thing, I don't know what to believe.
I think it's usuall around 350-400. I don't think it was ever as low as 200. But then again, I'm not the adcom, so I don't have the "real" numbers. All of this is just speculation based on the MSAR and chats.

Yeah, your understanding of my deduction of ~30-40 OOS students (initially accepted) matriculating is correct. That's why I think pulling 50 or 60 off the waitlist seems a bit much, but like someone said, maybe this is the figure counting all of those who chose not to matriculate despite being pulling off the waitlist.
 
attaboybambeeks said:
It is important to keep in mind that when Michigan invites someone off of the waitlist they may not accept that invitation...in fact I would guess that the matriculation % of people accepted off of the waitlist would not necessarily be that high. Students may already become settled with a school they are attending, or decide later that they'd take school X over Mich, or remain on the waitlist even though they dont believe they'd actually go (possible).

im upper tier waitlist, and dont feel so hot about it btw.

I hear ya....I feel like I should just give up on any hope of getting into umich... 🙁
 
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