UA - Phoenix vs. Creighton (Phx) vs. Louisville

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Hi all, wanted to get my thoughts organized as I start to narrow down my schools, and I would appreciate any insight into these schools. Currently, I am interested in a competitive sub-surgical specialty (ENT, ortho) and want to prioritize matching/research/networking opportunities. Fortunate to be in a position where COA is not a major factor. Also, I am waitlisted at Mayo (AZ), Virginia, and Carver (#33) and would prefer to matriculate to any of these programs if accepted.

UA - Phoenix:
Pros:
  • P/F preclinical and no student rankings/AOA
  • Not a lot of “filler assignments” or required PBL/CBI sessions
  • Can take exams on Fridays or Sundays
  • I am originally from AZ, so would be very close to my support network (friends with current students at the school)
  • Would prefer to match back to AZ or the west coast (although beggars can’t be choosers)
  • Currently doing research at Mayo and could continue throughout school
  • Meshed well with the students and seems to be a good sense of camaraderie
  • The school seems like they're trying to "make a name for itself" and are willing to invest in its' students' success (I heard the most recent class had an impressive match list, but can’t find it)
  • New facilities
Cons:
  • CTE date is May 1, so would have to forfeit possible acceptances to the aforementioned schools
  • Unranked school that is less known by PD directors
  • Fewer home residency programs in areas of interest (although does have ortho program)
  • Smaller research budget
Creighton (Phx)
Pros:
  • Again, in AZ so I would be close to my support network, current research endeavors, and matching on the west coast (also friends with students who attend school here)
  • Exams are on Fridays, so would have weekends off
  • Students seemed really happy here and had positive things to say about their class and institution
  • Curriculum seems very well-rounded and patient-focused
  • No student rankings
  • CTE date is July 1 so if I decide to stay in AZ, I could stay on the other waitlists a little longer
Cons:
  • H/P/F preclinical grading (although the same clinical grading is a pro)
  • Fewer home residency programs in areas of interest
  • Prioritizes volunteering and community outreach over research
  • I am not religious and got the impression religion is important to a lot of students/faculty
Louisville
Pros:
  • Lots of home residency programs
  • Long-established school (highest ranking on PD score)
  • Already have contacts with faculty in areas of interest, so could connect with them to jump into research/networking
  • Would be able to “start fresh” in a new city and grow more independent as a young adult living somewhere new
  • Appreciated the “southern hospitality vibe” so hoping students and faculty will be nicer (especially during clinical rotations)
  • Exams are on Fridays, so weekends off
  • Largest research budget
  • Latest CTE date (July 3)
  • Cheaper CoL compared with Phoenix
  • All students get a free laptop
  • Would be a third-generation grad from UofL (parent is being very hands-off in my decision, but I know it would be special for them—plus I think it’s cool myself)
Cons:
  • Switching to H/HP/P/F preclinical grading so would be this system for 4 years
  • Student rankings/AOA
  • Seems to be more “filler” assignments like quizzes and required in-person TBL sessions
  • Would move across the country to Kentucky and re-create a new support network alone
  • Most students seem to match in Kentucky, and would prefer to return to the west coast, although again, would prioritize opportunity over geographic location
  • Older facilities
  • No direct flights from Louisville to AZ
TLDR: I’m not sure if one school is glaringly “better” than another in terms of opportunity (although I could be missing something) so it comes down to whether starting a new adventure and moving across the country for medical school is wise and if I should choose a school with a later CTE date to optimize my chances of getting off the waitlist.

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I would probably take off UA phoenix so that you can have a chance at getting off one of the waitlists. I would probably lean towards creighton because of the chiller grading and being closer to your support system. I don’t have the impression that religion is that important there. Louisville would be a good option too if you wanted that fresh start.
 
Arizona Phoenix does have the lowest tuition if you are IS for them. I would not choose Louisville if you have to pay OOS tuition.

Mayo is one the schools known for wanting letters of interest and intent from interviewed applicants.
 
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Arizona Phoenix does have the lowest tuition if you are IS for them. I would not choose Louisville if you have to pay OOS tuition.

Mayo is one the schools known for wanting letters of interest and intent from interviewed applicants.
Yes - sent both back in 2022 before decisions came out *sigh*
 
How did you find out you have to commit to enroll by May 1? I was also admitted and looked it up and that seems very early compared to previous years.

Edit: I checked again and it says you have to commit to enroll 21 days before orientation, which was June last year.
 
How did you find out you have to commit to enroll by May 1? I was also admitted and looked it up and that seems very early compared to previous years.

Edit: I checked again and it says you have to commit to enroll 21 days before orientation, which was June last year.
Oh, that's good to hear. I saw on MSAR that applicants choosing to attend must select 'Commit to Enroll' by May 1, 2023 (which has since been updated to April 30th, 2024) and assumed that was the CTE date. I emailed admissions to double-check, so I'll let you know what they say.
 
How did you find out you have to commit to enroll by May 1? I was also admitted and looked it up and that seems very early compared to previous years.

Edit: I checked again and it says you have to commit to enroll 21 days before orientation, which was June last year.
They responded - the last day to CTE is June 5th, 2023
 
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