UC Davis Pre-med Surgical Internship Spring 2015

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Who applied for this? I submitted the app online yesterday. Do you guys know when we would get updates? I spent a lot of time working on the app and keeping my fingers crossed to get II and acceptance.
 
Who applied for this? I submitted the app online yesterday. Do you guys know when we would get updates? I spent a lot of time working on the app and keeping my fingers crossed to get II and acceptance.
If you read the website, they state that interview invitations will come by 11:59pm on the 30th, and interviews themselves are Dec 19-21st.
Last cycle, I received my acceptance 4d after interviewing, but of course ymmv.
 
Just got an interview!! excited! anyone got it?
 
Hello Everyone! I would like your help in this.
I made an account in order to be able to fill out my application for this summer 2015 pre-med surgery internship. I cannot log in into my account. I do not know if I am using the correct "log in " icon or if I am in the correct page. But I will appreciate if you guys could tell me where to I log in so that I can complete my application! I will appreciate your help!! Thanks!
 
Hello Everyone! I would like your help in this.
I made an account in order to be able to fill out my application for this summer 2015 pre-med surgery internship. I cannot log in into my account. I do not know if I am using the correct "log in " icon or if I am in the correct page. But I will appreciate if you guys could tell me where to I log in so that I can complete my application! I will appreciate your help!! Thanks!
http://app2.premedsurgery.org/Applicant/login/url/Summer15

That's the url it took me to.
 
Hi everyone, this is my first post! I just applied to the UC Davis Pre-Med program for this summer. Did anyone else? Any alums from this past year who'd like to share their experiences?
 
I got an interview and did terribly. I had just come from burning man (where I had been for 2 weeks on a build crew) and was going immediately back so maybe I was a bit out of it. The interview was a 3 person panel. I expected questions about medicine or science or surgery or something, but I thought the questions were really horrible. I am not just saying this because I did poorly, they asked solely questions like "What would you do if you won $10,000 in the lottery?" or "What would you do if you waiter brought out your steak well done when you ordered it rare?" Not a single question about myself or the program. I have heard mixed reviews from friends who have done it, some said it was cool, some said it was very time intensive and not worth it. I would have liked to do it I think, I hear it can be a great networking opportunity with the docs.
 
I got an interview and did terribly. I had just come from burning man (where I had been for 2 weeks on a build crew) and was going immediately back so maybe I was a bit out of it. The interview was a 3 person panel. I expected questions about medicine or science or surgery or something, but I thought the questions were really horrible. I am not just saying this because I did poorly, they asked solely questions like "What would you do if you won $10,000 in the lottery?" or "What would you do if you waiter brought out your steak well done when you ordered it rare?" Not a single question about myself or the program. I have heard mixed reviews from friends who have done it, some said it was cool, some said it was very time intensive and not worth it. I would have liked to do it I think, I hear it can be a great networking opportunity with the docs.
Wow, thank you for sharing so much detail about the interview! Sorry you didn't get in. Sounds like the timing wasn't too good for you. Think you'll try again? A few classmates from my post-bac program have done it and enjoyed it. Have you had other clinical experiences? At the Black Rock Hospital, perhaps? 🙂
 
I got an interview and did terribly. I had just come from burning man (where I had been for 2 weeks on a build crew) and was going immediately back so maybe I was a bit out of it. The interview was a 3 person panel. I expected questions about medicine or science or surgery or something, but I thought the questions were really horrible. I am not just saying this because I did poorly, they asked solely questions like "What would you do if you won $10,000 in the lottery?" or "What would you do if you waiter brought out your steak well done when you ordered it rare?" Not a single question about myself or the program. I have heard mixed reviews from friends who have done it, some said it was cool, some said it was very time intensive and not worth it. I would have liked to do it I think, I hear it can be a great networking opportunity with the docs.
The interview is...rough, tbh. They essentially only ask questions which require you to come up with a meaningful anecdote relating to their topic within a few seconds. 😱 However, I'm honestly not sure how much of an impact the interview could have had given how many people they invite. At some point, you have to think that they've got things a bit more narrowed down pre-interview than they admit to :shrug:

The program itself? Amazing. I am absolutely and utterly glad that I participated. Are they unnecessarily annoying about their rules at times? Absolutely. Sometimes it feels as if they substitute strictness for prestige, as if by making things more difficult to deal with, they somehow lend themselves an air of exclusivity. Even the residents at times find the program rules over the top. HOWEVER...that is a small bone to pick with what is the most useful glimpse of medical training you are ever likely to get until you're in it.

I saw surgeries from almost every specialty. I've sat at and watched an operation through a Da Vinci workstation. I have seen the bypass machine in action and was able to quiz the tech on how it worked. I've watched an operation go south, with rapid blood loss, and then saw the attending calmly bring it back on track. I've seen a resident perform their first solo cholecystectomy while the attending watched on the monitor. I've seen a resident get kicked out of the OR after failing to correct their (minor sounding, but what do I know?) mistakes too many times. I've seen traumas, amputations, etc. I've attended clinic, Grand Rounds, M&M, specialty-specific lectures and journal club, and even surgery school (teaching program just for the residents). I've seen the med student present patients to residents and attendings, each with completely opposite advice and requirements, and get hammered by the second guy for doing exactly what the first doc told them to do! I've been called up for an anatomy pop quiz in the OR. I've seen a gorram human brain, in a living person, for pete's sake! I have a better idea of what medical training entails now than I could have imagined a year ago. I've spoken to attendings, residents, and med students, with varying backgrounds and different goals, and it has been incredibly educational.

The homework in the program is minimal at best, and easily graded. The shifts are only 7hrs 1x/wk if you want, but they're the entire point of doing the program. Why would you short yourself on that? The weekend workshops are usually completely valuable. I was commuting from hours away and still did not feel that it was an overwhelming time burden (fwiw, I was also working 2 jobs at first, which was a bit tight, but with only 1 other job it was no issue.)

Most of the people who I saw in the program getting 'bored' or saying it wasn't worth it...didn't put a lot into it. It can be tricky, sometimes, to figure out how to politely worm your way into the docs' good graces in the OR. Sure, if you stand in the corner staring at scrub caps it can suck. But if you're proactive and willing to (tactfully) put yourself in position to see what you can, hear what you can, and catch those question-asking opportunities, you will be noticed. You will be shown things, explained to, offered standing positions or chart reviews, allowed to follow the attending on clinic day, etc.

TL;DR the app process is annoying, but it's absolutely worthwhile given the incredible experience!
 
I went through it in Fall 2013 and I would absolutely recommend the SIP. It is a lot more than just the unique surgical shadowing experiences.

There are workshops on medical ethics, practice with MMI format interviews, information on medical school applications, etc. There is an academic component, almost like a college discussion class, that helps get you thinking about medical ethics, healthcare, etc. to prepare you for interviews and what not. Plus, there is a lot of one-on-one time with many different physicians, with many different specialties, who often take time to explain what they are doing and answer questions about their experiences in medical school, adjusting to residency, being married, dealing with USMLE1/2/3 while at all of those stages, etc.

That said it is very time intensive. I highly recommend only taking a light load of classes if you are still enrolled. However, like most things, you really get out of it what you put into it. If you just do one shift a week, you are not going to learn or see nearly as much as if you do more. If you just read the articles and books to do the minimums, again you are not going to get a lot out of it.

If you plan to do the minimums and thought it was a easy EC/shadowing that will get you into medical school, it will probably be a terrible experience for you. It will not get you into medical school, but if you really apply your self and approach the internship to learn, you will get a phenomenal amount of experience to reflect upon and become a stronger applicant/physician in the future.

It is also free (besides the application fee) and has no school, state, requirements.
 
I went through it in Fall 2013 and I would absolutely recommend the SIP. It is a lot more than just the unique surgical shadowing experiences.

There are workshops on medical ethics, practice with MMI format interviews, information on medical school applications, etc. There is an academic component, almost like a college discussion class, that helps get you thinking about medical ethics, healthcare, etc. to prepare you for interviews and what not. Plus, there is a lot of one-on-one time with many different physicians, with many different specialties, who often take time to explain what they are doing and answer questions about their experiences in medical school, adjusting to residency, being married, dealing with USMLE1/2/3 while at all of those stages, etc.
Don't forget the heart dissection workshop! Though I'd say that "almost like a college discussion class" is a bit of a stretch...neither the homework nor the quizzes ever hit that level of rigor.
 
However, I'm honestly not sure how much of an impact the interview could have had given how many people they invite. At some point, you have to think that they've got things a bit more narrowed down pre-interview than they admit to :shrug:

Yah I was rejected my freshman year, and I spoke to many many more people who were rejected than I did that were admitted. My friend was rejected after the interview and they told him to reapply next year, he did and didn't even get an interview lol.
 
Don't forget the heart dissection workshop! Though I'd say that "almost like a college discussion class" is a bit of a stretch...neither the homework nor the quizzes ever hit that level of rigor.

Perhaps a stretch, but for me it got a lot about topics stirring in my head that I would have only casually considered without the encouragement. Essentially what all my discussion classes in college have been aimed to do. It would have been more fun and stimulating if we could have spent a little time at the workshops discussing the articles to hear other peoples ideas, reactions, etc.

Heart and Suturing Workshops were great!
 
Great stuff, y'all - keep it coming! I really appreciate all the detail. I'm changing careers and my goal this summer is to get a solid sense of the hospital working environment, one way or another. I'm considering studying for the September 12 MCAT too. Doable, or crazy? I'd take an MCAT prep course but wouldn't be working or anything else, and I'd have 4 weeks post-SIP for nothing but MCAT prep. Beyond the shifts (however many you do in a given week) and the Saturday workshops, how many more hours do you need to commit to the SIP each week?
 
Personally, I would mostly clear my summer schedule to study for a September MCAT. That is what I did at least. Would you be taking a prep class in Davis? I might be teaching it!
 
Great stuff, y'all - keep it coming! I really appreciate all the detail. I'm changing careers and my goal this summer is to get a solid sense of the hospital working environment, one way or another. I'm considering studying for the September 12 MCAT too. Doable, or crazy? I'd take an MCAT prep course but wouldn't be working or anything else, and I'd have 4 weeks post-SIP for nothing but MCAT prep. Beyond the shifts (however many you do in a given week) and the Saturday workshops, how many more hours do you need to commit to the SIP each week?
SIP + MCAT would be totally doable. I've never done a prep course, so I don't know how that factors into a schedule, but the shifts are only 7hrs and the workshops are about every other week. That gives you several full days/wk, a few 'after/before shift' study days, all Sundays and every other Saturday free. If you find yourself getting slammed, you can back down to 1 shift/wk :shrug: However, I'm biased because I did my prep while working 2 jobs, so I tend to vote for 'doable' rather than not. With 4wks completely free at the end you sound solid, though. If you're worried, I'd start early - I gave myself 4mo instead of 3 b/c I was so busy, but stuck to the 3mo schedule and just used the extra time to absorb accidental extra break days. As for SIP homework, I'd say that I averaged maybe an extra hour or so outside of the scheduled activities every other week to compete assignments?
 
Thank you everyone for the phenomenal feedback! @CaliforniaDreamer, good luck with teaching in Davis! That would be an awesome gig. I'm signed up for The Berkeley Review and as of now, I'd have six weeks before the course (and SIP) plus the four weeks after to study full time on my own. @mehc012, It sounds like SIP doesn't take up a huge amount of time outside of the scheduled activities so that's good to know; then again, I'd love to be in a position to take on more than the minimum number of shifts. So we'll see if I even get in. If I do, maybe I'll defer the MCAT to next year since I'm not applying this cycle anyway. Anyway, thanks again everyone - this was beyond the response I'd hoped for, and a nice welcome to StudentDoc. 🙂
 
Thank you everyone for the phenomenal feedback! @CaliforniaDreamer, good luck with teaching in Davis! That would be an awesome gig. I'm signed up for The Berkeley Review and as of now, I'd have six weeks before the course (and SIP) plus the four weeks after to study full time on my own. @mehc012, It sounds like SIP doesn't take up a huge amount of time outside of the scheduled activities so that's good to know; then again, I'd love to be in a position to take on more than the minimum number of shifts. So we'll see if I even get in. If I do, maybe I'll defer the MCAT to next year since I'm not applying this cycle anyway. Anyway, thanks again everyone - this was beyond the response I'd hoped for, and a nice welcome to StudentDoc. 🙂

Expect a 5 hour per week average time commitment for the academic component of SIP. If you write/read slowly it may be more, conversely if you write/read quickly it may be less.
 
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Expect a 5 hour per week average time commitment for the academic component of SIP. If you write/read slowly it may be more, conversely if you write/read quickly it may be less.
You sure you don't mean every other week? They usually don't have anything due when there's no workshop, and it certainly doesn't take 10hrs for each set of assignments.

I would personally call this gross overestimation even if you meant every other week, but I admit that I do read/write quickly.
I will note that, while you of course get more out of things the more you put into them, the difference between 'what you need to do for SIP' and 'what you would need to do if you had assignments with the exact same description in a class' is phenomenal. They are insanely easy on the grading and the expectations for assignments are pretty simple to begin with. :shrug: You can definitely score very highly without ever reading the full books, and with spending maybe an hour or so on each block of essay assignments.
 
You can definitely score very highly without ever reading the full books, and with spending maybe an hour or so on each block of essay assignments.

If one is only trying to do the minimum and pass, that is a different story.

I found the material quite interesting and useful for the direction of becoming a physician so I took a different approach.
 
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Expect a 5 hour per week average time commitment for the academic component of SIP. If you write/read slowly it may be more, conversely if you write/read quickly it may be less.

Very helpful, thanks!
 
If one is only trying to do the minimum and pass, that is a different story.

I found the material quite interesting and useful for the direction of becoming a physician so I took a different approach.
I found it quite interesting, don't get me wrong...but their quizzes were almost insultingly simple and I don't need to write a piece fit for the NYTimes to get the benefits from reading the articles.

Basically, while the reading was valuable and interesting to me, the writing existed only to prove that you did the reading...it didn't enhance my understanding, and was therefore fairly valueless to ME (but thankfully trivial as far as grading went.)

I suppose that all I am saying is that being interested in/learning from the material is NOT AT ALL the same as spending excess time on simple assignments.
 
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Hello,

I applied for this Summer Internship and in the website says that they will let you know for the interview on April 12th (that is Today….) I just want to know if they let you know by email if you GET or if you DO NOT GET an interview????? I am stressing out a little bit since I have not received an email yet and this is an opportunity that I really really really want! I will appreciate and help. Thanks!
 
Hello,
I applied for this Summer Internship and in the website says that they will let you know for the interview on April 12th (that is Today….) I just want to know if they let you know by email if you GET or if you DO NOT GET an interview????? I am stressing out a little bit since I have not received an email yet and this is an opportunity that I really really really want! I will appreciate and help. Thanks!
 
@mono775 Hey there. I also applied for the program and I still haven't received anything from the program yet. Not even a confirmation that my application was successfully submitted. You are not alone!
 
@darlesx3 @mono775 @YVZSame here! OMG I was so worried and anxious the entire day and just sent them a heartrending email to inquire about my results OTL
 
Calm down people. They're reviewing apps now, and as fast as humanly possible. You'll hear something regarding interview or rejection soon.
 
Just got my interview invite! It looks like invitations were sent at 2-3am. Does anyone have tips for the interview? Super nervous for that 🙁
 
I received my invitation at 2-3pm as well!
How is everyone getting to the location? I didn't plan on getting an interview, so now I'm a bit stumped as to how to get there...
 
I received my invitation at 2-3pm as well!
How is everyone getting to the location? I didn't plan on getting an interview, so now I'm a bit stumped as to how to get there...

Congrats! Not sure where you'd be travelling from, but Amtrak goes to downtown Sac, and I think it's a short bus or cab ride from there, possibly even walkable.
 
Congrats! Not sure where you'd be travelling from, but Amtrak goes to downtown Sac, and I think it's a short bus or cab ride from there, possibly even walkable.

ps - assuming that the interviews are at the hospital.
 
Congrats! Not sure where you'd be travelling from, but Amtrak goes to downtown Sac, and I think it's a short bus or cab ride from there, possibly even walkable.
I wouldn't recommend walking from the nearest Amtrak stop to the hospital; it's not exactly close.

@servage If you're flying, fly into SMF and take a 15min shuttle/cab ride to the UCDMC. If driving, there are plenty of paid parking around the building they interview in (big structure in front of hospital, multiple daily lots one block away, and free parking a few blocks away on Stockton/Broadway if you're ok with walking a bit further).
 
For the ones that got the interview.. How long is the wait now after that to know for sure if you get in!?!?!
 
When I asked, they said they'll let us know by the end of the week.
 
Heeey
Has anyone heard something regarding their acceptance in the program!?!? or someone knows more or less when are we getting an answer?? I am so anxious! Cant stop looking at my email!!
 
Is this only for Cali residents only? I know its off topic but thought this would be the best place to ask
 
Is this only for Cali residents only? I know its off topic but thought this would be the best place to ask
The best place would be their website:
www.premedsurgery.org

But in short, no, anyone can apply and it is free for all. I have known people move to Sacramento for 3mo to participate. The only requirements are age, mobility, and English.

Well, and the basics for hospital volunteering such as immunizations and clean background check.
 
It does not say anything about the day they are notifying the students of their decision….
 
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