UCLA OMFS program

[Stanford Fencer]

Hi,

Wondering if anyone could help shed light on experience/impression of the UCLA program. Thank you.

SF

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[gary_ruska]

Hi,

Wondering if anyone could help shed light on experience/impression of the UCLA program. Thank you.

SF

Gary Ruksa here on this Fabuloso Monday...

UCLA's program is considered to be *the* country club program. No/little trauma, mostly dentoalveolar and implants. The faculty there are incredibly nice (Aghloo, Felsenfeld, Freymuller, etc.) and excellent teachers. A great program for those who have families.

Downside: No trauma or cosmetics. Limited orthognathic/TMJ experience at Kaiser.

 

[drhobie7]

Gary Ruksa here on this Fabuloso Monday...

UCLA's program is considered to be *the* country club program. No/little trauma, mostly dentoalveolar and implants. The faculty there are incredibly nice (Aghloo, Felsenfeld, Freymuller, etc.) and excellent teachers. A great program for those who have families.

Downside: No trauma or cosmetics. Limited orthognathic/TMJ experience at Kaiser.

I agree with GR. Faculty are awesome. Really great people. I think UCLA is a good balance with an emphasis on the bread and butter. They do a lot of implants. Orthognathics is mostly at Kaiser. Trauma is at Harbor hospital (county hospital in Long Beach). UCLA is a little short of the crazy rednecks that supply all those nasty infections and fractures you get in the dirty south, but every now and then one of those drunk cowboys wanders into Westwood.

 

[S Files]

I agree with GR. Faculty are awesome. Really great people. I think UCLA is a good balance with an emphasis on the bread and butter. They do a lot of implants. Orthognathics is mostly at Kaiser. Trauma is at Harbor hospital (county hospital in Long Beach). UCLA is a little short of the crazy rednecks that supply all those nasty infections and fractures you get in the dirty south, but every now and then one of those drunk cowboys wanders into Westwood.

Interesting...i thought with Henry Kawamoto being the man of the craniofacial clinic and all, the omfs program would be more involved there.

 

[gary_ruska]

Interesting...i thought with Henry Kawamoto being the man of the craniofacial clinic and all, the omfs program would be more involved there.

Kawamoto is a PRS, not an OMFS.

 

[S Files]

Kawamoto is a PRS, not an OMFS.

oh ok so he's a DDS turned PRS.

 

[InMyCrossHairs]

What other programs are "Country Club"? 9-5 sounds good to me.

 

[Copious]

What other programs are "Country Club"? 9-5 sounds good to me.

All this talk of UCLA being a 9-5 country club, makes you wonder why the hell they went to all 6 year????
Dont make much sense

 

[drhobie7]

What other programs are "Country Club"? 9-5 sounds good to me.

From what I hear, intern year is more like 6am-6pm, but that's still a lot better than 4am-8pm.

 

[drhobie7]

All this talk of UCLA being a 9-5 country club, makes you wonder why the hell they went to all 6 year????

What does "country club" have to do with 6 year? Most OMS residents will tell you med school is the easiest part of their training.

 

[unlvdmd]

Regardless, I am sure it is competitive as hell to get in there considering its southern cali alone. (not to mention the cush lifestyle)

Maybe I'm wrong? What are their average stats? Willing to bet pretty damn high.

 

[Jediwendell]

Regardless, I am sure it is competitive as hell to get in there considering its southern cali alone. (not to mention the cush lifestyle)

Maybe I'm wrong? What are their average stats? Willing to bet pretty damn high.

Any six year in California would be tough to get into. Their medical schools will be fairly particular on who they take and will probably require a 90+ on the step one of boards. I suspect that UCLA is not quite as cush as it is rumoured.

 

[drhobie7]

Regardless, I am sure it is competitive as hell to get in there considering its southern cali alone. (not to mention the cush lifestyle)

Maybe I'm wrong? What are their average stats? Willing to bet pretty damn high.

Not sure what the average stats are, but they're definitely high. I think it's rare for someone with under a 95 to get in. One of the two who matched last year had a 99 and was a complete stud.

 

[Copious]

Not sure what the average stats are, but they're definitely high. I think it's rare for someone with under a 95 to get in. One of the two who matched last year had a 99 and was a complete stud.

You know its funny how after the boards went to computer there were more 99's than ever before.

 

[unlvdmd]

I agree. It does seem like there are an awful lot of very high 90's in the computer format and not as much in the written. Nothing scientific, just a casual observation.

 

[drhobie7]

Yep. Wish I had taken mine on computer.

 

[cuneatus2]

You know its funny how after the boards went to computer there were more 99's than ever before.

What you say may be true, however, half of the 99's in my class were from the written.

 

[54807]

What you say may be true, however, half of the 99's in my class were from the written.

So when you say "half" are we talking like 2 people or we talking 10. Is it common to have lots of 99s in the class?

thx

 

[cuneatus2]

I think our final count (of the people known) was 7.

 

[Copious]

That is ridiculous. 7 99's!!!
I went to UCLA and we didnt have 1 99 in our class (paper test taken) and i garuntee that if the exam was given to us in computer format there would have been 6-9 99's.
No one has really looked at this issue and i think that it needs to be addressed. People who are applying to specialties with scores based on the paper version are at an unfair position becuz their scores are low compared to the inflated computer scores of younger people who took the computer version.

Let the flaming begin

 

[OMFSdoc]

UCLA is tough to get into. Probably because of location and getting the MD. However, it's not a strong program. You just don't do that much. I know because I know everything about everything.

 

[EuroOMFS]

UCLA is tough to get into. Probably because of location and getting the MD. However, it's not a strong program. You just don't do that much. I know because I know everything about everything.

Do OMS´s from UCLA get attending positions at other, stronger, hospitals, where there are lots of trauma, craniofacial etc? Or do they all go into private practice?

 

[cuneatus2]

That is ridiculous. 7 99's!!!
I went to UCLA and we didnt have 1 99 in our class (paper test taken) and i garuntee that if the exam was given to us in computer format there would have been 6-9 99's.
No one has really looked at this issue and i think that it needs to be addressed. People who are applying to specialties with scores based on the paper version are at an unfair position becuz their scores are low compared to the inflated computer scores of younger people who took the computer version.

Let the flaming begin

Apparently you missed the part in my post that mentioned half of the 7 (at least 3) people who scored 99 took the test on paper.

 

[oms fan]

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[oms fan]

Do OMS´s from UCLA get attending positions at other, stronger, hospitals, where there are lots of trauma, craniofacial etc? Or do they all go into private practice?

I believe most of them go into private practice. The only name I know as an exception is Dr. Aghaloo who did her residency there and she is an attending now at UCLA.