UCSF vs Stanford

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Hi all,

I know these threads can get old and hopefully this won't degenerate into a trolled-up post, but I haven't been able to find too many head to head comparisons of these programs so maybe it could be useful for some.

California native trying to go back west. I'm leaning towards an academic career, and UCSF seems to have a slight edge in terms of reputation for that path. However I'm also going to be starting a family in residency and the 'burbs might be better for this reason. The two are at the top of my list but basically it's a stand-still. Advice?
 
Both are solid programs, especially from a reputation standpoint.

The rumor about Stanford has always been that it was a cush program where the residents were protected from work and didn't do that much on call. Is this still true? I'm not sure. It's supposedly improving with improvements to the hospital, but you never know if that's just how the program sells it. It's still a top name program with a lot of big names and a big reputation, particularly for research. If you were possibly ever considering private practice, you might have some catching up to do. Unfortunately, the fact that it's not in the city doesn't really help you from a typical suburbs concept because it's equally, if not more expensive than SF.

UCSF residents do a lot of work and see a lot of studies at several different hospitals, one of which doesn't have many fellows in the way. It's a hardworking program with a lot of call and where you see a lot of cases. Also a lot of big names, and in terms of reputation is one of the top programs in the country.

So, what kind of person are you? Do you learn on the job by reading tons of cases? Or do you learn better from having more time to study and read? Want more time for research pursuits? Probably the answer to those questions will help you decide.
 
Stanford is less work than UCSF. I rotated at stanford. Residents didn't work too hard. This was 6 years ago though...
UCSF seemed like more work on interview day.
 
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