Ugh, Volunteering Woes

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So, apparently here in NorCal, trying to get a volunteering position in a hospital is harder than digging your way to China. Anyway, it seems like the major hospitals like Sutter and Mercy are way overbooked for any sort of volunteering positions. Perhaps I'm not going about this the right way... anyways, since I'm already working at a Walgreens as a clerk and taking the PTCB next week, I was wondering if I should just try to volunteer for anything community related? I was thinking about volunteering for the local library while pestering hospitals for volunteering openings. What do you guys think? Yay, or nay?
 
Any volunteering is better than none. I am shocked there aren't misc. positions available at Sutter... They seemingly always need someone in their gift shop. And hell, if it gets your foot in the door, go for it. That's how I ended up with my pretty sweet volunteer gig now.

But, if a hospital's completely out of the question and you've pursued it all, then go w/ a Red Cross or maybe Salvation Army type volunteering. Anything looks better than nothing, but remember, the duration you do it matters a lot. 10 hours a year is probably not going to be worth your time if that's all you can do.


So, apparently here in NorCal, trying to get a volunteering position in a hospital is harder than digging your way to China. Anyway, it seems like the major hospitals like Sutter and Mercy are way overbooked for any sort of volunteering positions. Perhaps I'm not going about this the right way... anyways, since I'm already working at a Walgreens as a clerk and taking the PTCB next week, I was wondering if I should just try to volunteer for anything community related? I was thinking about volunteering for the local library while pestering hospitals for volunteering openings. What do you guys think? Yay, or nay?
 
Lol, 10 hours a year would look pretty bad IMO. But I think you're right, any volunteering is better than twiddling my thumbs. So, what's this sweet volunteering gig about, if you don't mind my asking?
 
Ive usurped the other volunteers (just kidding, I'm just the most senior now w/ turn over) in my pharmacy and am volunteer lead now. I get to do all sorts of cool stuff, like do smoking cessation consults w/ inpatients, mix IVs, and work on the clinical interventions, as well as being able to shadow any one of several clinical pharmacists as they do their clinics / rounds. It's invaluable knowledge and experience that I just can't get as a CPhT in the small indy pharmacy that I work at for a few ducats a week. Essentially, I get to have my cake and eat it to - The only down side is the drive to the bay area every week (I go once a week for 8 hours usually, but since I'm only taking one class this semester and I'm done w/ all my pre-requisites, I've stepped up to 16 hrs/wk at the hospital and 30 hrs/week at pharmacy actually working).

I got/am getting (if necessary next year, lol) two fantastic LoRs out of it, plus all the experience of working hands-on in a hospital environment in compounding, staff and clinical specialty roles.

It's fun! And it all started because I took a crappy position in the gift shop...


Lol, 10 hours a year would look pretty bad IMO. But I think you're right, any volunteering is better than twiddling my thumbs. So, what's this sweet volunteering gig about, if you don't mind my asking?
 
Ive usurped the other volunteers (just kidding, I'm just the most senior now w/ turn over) in my pharmacy and am volunteer lead now. I get to do all sorts of cool stuff, like do smoking cessation consults w/ inpatients, mix IVs, and work on the clinical interventions, as well as being able to shadow any one of several clinical pharmacists as they do their clinics / rounds. It's invaluable knowledge and experience that I just can't get as a CPhT in the small indy pharmacy that I work at for a few ducats a week. Essentially, I get to have my cake and eat it to - The only down side is the drive to the bay area every week (I go once a week for 8 hours usually, but since I'm only taking one class this semester and I'm done w/ all my pre-requisites, I've stepped up to 16 hrs/wk at the hospital and 30 hrs/week at pharmacy actually working).

I got/am getting (if necessary next year, lol) two fantastic LoRs out of it, plus all the experience of working hands-on in a hospital environment in compounding, staff and clinical specialty roles.

It's fun! And it all started because I took a crappy position in the gift shop...


Mmm...sounds interesting. I just started at a new hospital today and I was doing mostly stocking and stuff like that but I found out that if and when I get certified as a tech and there is a position available I will have a better chance of getting the job and if I work there for a year and finish my P1 in pharmacy school that they would pay a portion of my tuition and they have a $5000 a year loan forgiveness if I decide to accept a position there when I get done with school.
 
Mmm...sounds interesting. I just started at a new hospital today and I was doing mostly stocking and stuff like that but I found out that if and when I get certified as a tech and there is a position available I will have a better chance of getting the job and if I work there for a year and finish my P1 in pharmacy school that they would pay a portion of my tuition and they have a $5000 a year loan forgiveness if I decide to accept a position there when I get done with school.

Yea, we have the same kinda deal here too... bottom line is, it's not necessarily what you know, but who you know.
 
Mmm...sounds interesting. I just started at a new hospital today and I was doing mostly stocking and stuff like that but I found out that if and when I get certified as a tech and there is a position available I will have a better chance of getting the job and if I work there for a year and finish my P1 in pharmacy school that they would pay a portion of my tuition and they have a $5000 a year loan forgiveness if I decide to accept a position there when I get done with school.

Wow that rocks. That sure beats the snot outta working in a busy ass Walgreens..
 
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Yea, we have the same kinda deal here too... bottom line is, it's not necessarily what you know, but who you know.

it's not who you know, it is who you blow 😀
 
Ive usurped the other volunteers (just kidding, I'm just the most senior now w/ turn over) in my pharmacy and am volunteer lead now. I get to do all sorts of cool stuff, like do smoking cessation consults w/ inpatients, mix IVs, and work on the clinical interventions, as well as being able to shadow any one of several clinical pharmacists as they do their clinics / rounds. It's invaluable knowledge and experience that I just can't get as a CPhT in the small indy pharmacy that I work at for a few ducats a week. Essentially, I get to have my cake and eat it to - The only down side is the drive to the bay area every week (I go once a week for 8 hours usually, but since I'm only taking one class this semester and I'm done w/ all my pre-requisites, I've stepped up to 16 hrs/wk at the hospital and 30 hrs/week at pharmacy actually working).

I got/am getting (if necessary next year, lol) two fantastic LoRs out of it, plus all the experience of working hands-on in a hospital environment in compounding, staff and clinical specialty roles.

It's fun! And it all started because I took a crappy position in the gift shop...

You do all that as a volunteer? Your hospital must not take liability very seriously. I just can't see the repercussions of a volunteer adding the wrong amount of something and causing harm to a patient. At the VA hospital I volunteer at, I can't even get in the door of the inpatient pharmacy by myself, let alone prepare an IV.

How can you be able to GIVE smoking cessation consults to patients, not even being an intern or even accepted to a pharmacy school yet? You really know nothing about the subject on a clinical level, same for clinical interventions. It's cool that you get to do all that, it's just very surprising, all things considered.
 
You do all that as a volunteer? Your hospital must not take liability very seriously. I just can't see the repercussions of a volunteer adding the wrong amount of something and causing harm to a patient. At the VA hospital I volunteer at, I can't even get in the door of the inpatient pharmacy by myself, let alone prepare an IV.

How can you be able to GIVE smoking cessation consults to patients, not even being an intern or even accepted to a pharmacy school yet? You really know nothing about the subject on a clinical level, same for clinical interventions. It's cool that you get to do all that, it's just very surprising, all things considered.

P4Sci is also a certified pharm tech so with his certification I think he may have a little more responsibilities in the pharmacy.
 
We had smoking cessation training and it was approved by the state and county as a valid training.

I rarely am in the IV room, it was only an example. Of all the things I listed, that's probably the only thing I do not do on a regular basis. As Delano mentioned, I am a CA licensed CPhT and I do work as a pharmacy technician in a retail pharmacy, and have for many months now, so I am experienced, and my supes know that.

The majority of my 'job' is smoking cessation, clinical interventions tracking, and assisting the lead technicians / pharmacists with tasks they need accomplished.

I said it was a sweet gig! I know a lot of volunteers who can't do crap besides stock shelves, if they're lucky.

Our hospital's never had a liability issue, although not all volunteers have the freedom I do for two reasons; 1. I've been there forever with a **** ton of hours logged, and 2. I'm a technician and they are not.

I don't actually do clinical interventions. No, not at all. I enter the interventions that a given Pharmacist (and consults also) caught into an Excel db for quarterly (sometimes more often) presentation on which MDs were responsible for the most interventions and which ones (auto-sub, P&T violation, non formulary, wrong dose, wrong pt, etc).

As far as smoking cessation goes, our training has gotten us to the level of what the interns were doing. We were supervised for three patient visits by the pharmacist (whomever is "leading" us) and then 3 visits w/ a pharmacy resident (graduate from pharmacy school doing PGY residency). Once they feel we're comfortable with getting onto the pt floor by ourselves, we do... but bear in mind, not all volunteers do this. Only a few of us have been granted the option and opportunity to do it, and it's actually becoming really popular (I hear other bay area hospitals are starting to do it also). It takes the load off the already overworked residents. I can't modify pt charts. I need to page a resident for that - As well as adding Nicoderm to a pt med order requires a page for the resident. I'd be happy to PM you more information about our program, maybe you could suggest it to a clin.pharm in your hospital.

Even with the handicaps I've got in those respects, I am grateful for what I've got, recognizing that at other hospitals, the amount of restriction is really stifling. Hopefully all of this exp. comes in handy for interviews.


You do all that as a volunteer? Your hospital must not take liability very seriously. I just can't see the repercussions of a volunteer adding the wrong amount of something and causing harm to a patient. At the VA hospital I volunteer at, I can't even get in the door of the inpatient pharmacy by myself, let alone prepare an IV.

How can you be able to GIVE smoking cessation consults to patients, not even being an intern or even accepted to a pharmacy school yet? You really know nothing about the subject on a clinical level, same for clinical interventions. It's cool that you get to do all that, it's just very surprising, all things considered.
 
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