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Discussion in 'Allopathic Class Threads' started by Doctor Bagel, Apr 19, 2007.
Since the last one got closed ...
So what else is wrong with Johnny?
Nothing whiskey, prozac, and viagra won't fix.
I don't know if you're supposed to take all those at the same time.
Well, whiskey screws me up, prozac cheers my up, and viagra...well
I only need the viagra when I can't find my pics of you anyway
I'm starting to think they only started this 1000-post-cap because all the other schools were getting jealous of our post counts
Whiskey = my reason to live... or maybe what keeps me alive.
Don't like whiskey. I'm not a fan of the hard stuff -- it's girly and all but all I drink are beer (well, maybe that's not girly), wine, margaritas and vodka tonics. You can tell I love adventure.
1) I have been drinking whiskey... so I'm a little buzzed currently.
2) At least one of the cadavers in my lab right now has tat's. He's got military tat's, which makes it even cooler.
3) After complaining horribly only a day or two ago... my opinion about med school is utterly reversed right now (again, see #1). Considering how foul of a mood I am in, the thing that makes me feel better is the thought that in 4.25 years, I will begin residency... I will be a scut monkey getting to learn what it really means to be a doctor. At this moment, if it weren't for the reminder that I did manage to get accepted to medical school and I get to begin this hell in a few months, I would be off the deep end at the moment.
4) I am having a bad day.
You got more on the way
On a different note:
My worthless landlards finally got my AC fixed today after only 49 days and a 2-page strongly worded letter from me.
Wow...this lecture on Temperature regulation by the hypothalamus may just be the most boring lecture ever.
Hast thou forgotten about the Steinberg lectures?
Wanted to bump this thread above the unnecessary thread I started. Thought I had the first go at it.
And yes, no other thread consistently posts as much as this one.
If 49 days ago you were trying to turn on your A/C, you might pay attention because I think your setpoint is fuct...
New papers in the mail today! Vaccines, IT and white coat stuff.
I'm a bit confused, however. On the IT info sheet it has blanks for me to fill in that are titled "Student Empl ID" and "Campus Phone." I don't know what to do with either of these. Oh, and more blanks for a Student Account Sponsor. Any of you have any idea if I'm supposed to fill these in or not?
I think it's fine if you leave that stuff blank. All the IT forms are processed by someone in the college of medicine, so they'll know what to do with it.
For vaccines, the family medicine clinic at OUHSC is probably the best and easiest deal.
Thanks! Once graduation comes and I move to the city I'll be using the clinic there. I'm getting real excited about moving up and out of Norman.
So, I'm borrowing against my 401k to fund a summer full of travelling. Basically, I am sinking about 10k into debt before I even set foot in a medical school. That being said, I think I am going to have a really fun summer if all of the plane travel doesn't make me really really sick.
I was just curious what you guys did in the weeks leading up to starting school. Did you just chill out and relax or were you working in your respective jobs. I am going to be overseas until about the 5th of August. I am just wondering if I am giving myself enough down time before school starts.
Are any of your first years doing anything fun and interesting this coming summer? Working in a lab or going on a medical trip?
I didn't do anything "fun" last summer. I ran myself into the ****ing ground working, putting up with a pregosaurus, and trying to get my fixer-upper livable by the time school started. I was ready for school to start just so I could get a break. I moved my stuff into my house the day before school started.
This summer, however, will be different. Slightly, since I still have a massive honey-do list. But in a month I'll be on the sunny, windy sands of Aruba for a week of scuba diving and pina coladas. After that, I'm going to Ireland at a minimum, possibly more of Europe. If I come back, I'll prolly sit on my ass the rest of the summer, slave-labor around the house notwithstanding...
I think that what you're doing is about the smartest thing you could possibly do. Having no 401K fund to borrow against, I had to work the summer before school (though admittedly it was a pretty easy sit-on-your-ass 8-4 kind of job). Believe me, if I'd had any say in the matter, I would have done what you're doing-- it's DEFINITELY the way to go. You'll have a blast, and come back relaxed and with lots of perspective on your new misery-laden path. I'm definitely jealous, since I'm taking step 1 on June 23rd and start 3rd year on July 6th...
Don't forget the required 1 hour computer system orientation session on July 5th.
Why couldn't they squeeze that into the 6th? I've got family I need to say goodbye to.
I'm backpacking around Europe for a month.
I'm going to keep working this summer, trying to make as much money as I can before I give up my life of luxury for indentured-servantdom for the next 7+ years.
I will probably try to take a week of real vacation rather than using days working on my house, which is coming along quite nicely by the way. The new carpet looks great as does the roof which is about 1/2 done.
::Laughing hysterically:: I wish. Unfortunately, my skills as a Certified Public Accountant are, for the moment, worth a great deal more than the paltry clinical skills I possess. I'm returning to the Pink Palace in Tulsa for a summer of financial planning - and fixing whatever ongoing projects of mine that they've managed to screw-up in the past ten months (although, I will admit, it's nice to feel like you've been missed... and I have the 1,000 e-mail questions I've answered over the school year to prove it). So, it's back to suits and the 8-to-5 (9-to-5 in my case; they gave up trying to reform my inability to function in the morning years ago). Actually, it will be lovely to work during the day with old friends and have the evenings free to ride, swim, go to the movies, whatever... a real summer! And God bless the Pink Palace for their policy of keeping you at your old rate even if you're a temporary employee. The hospital is actually a huge family business but the Warrens have been very good to me and I have no complaints at all.
I certainly wish I could go to Europe this summer! I'm hoping to do a 4th-year elective in Great Britain - I would really like to see the NHS up close.
Question, guys. Since I decided that I would run after all, I'm unopposed as Treasurer and, according to the e-mail I got this weekend, I therefore don't have to give a speech. I think I should, anyway. The class financial statement isn't available on the class website yet and I think I should tell the class that there are some things I did right but some things I could have done better/faster and will do so next year. It seems to me to be a little arrogant not to speak (and be held accountable) just because I'm unopposed. Whad'ya think? I know you guys hate this class officer stuff. I will say this, though - John Weber asked me what I thought was the appropriate thing to do about the "unfortunate incident" with SDN and I told him that I thought an apology which acknowledged that the methods were inappropriate would be a good thing to do - and he's pushing that through. He agreed with my original arguments that questioning anyone was completely inappropriate when there was no proof that anything had, in fact, happened.
To my mind, John showed considerable courage and humility when he re-examined what had been done to us and concluded that his original support was wrong. Several of us, including me, encouraged John to run for Class President. He finally agreed to do so after his name was put on the ballot. I think John can lead the effort for better class government - the government I think you guys are looking for. So... sorry for the inappropriate political digression - but I hope you will support John Weber for Class President. John is determined not to run a negative campaign so I'll say what he may not - while the incumbent has worked extremely hard and deserves much credit for that - John wants more mature, more responsible class government. So do I.
I haven't heard a single word from john weber that sounds anything like an apology. And even if he coughs one up now, it'll be difficult to convince anyone he's sincere since he's had months to do so and only now is considering it because he's wanting to beef up his resume with a class president win.
As far as the kind of governement we're looking for, I personally don't give a crap because they don't do anything "real" for the students. The whole thing seems like a bunch of kids playing with dolls, lots of pretending and patting each other on the *ss.
However I do not what a bunch of tools walking around spreading rumors and accusing numerous students of stuff that never even happened; making stuff up because so-and-so said this or that; talking about academic discipline when they haven't got the authority to scratch my white butt unless I tell them it's ok.
Yeah, I've got to admit I'd be happy with a student government that would just leave me the hell alone, which is apparently too much to ask for with our current administration.
The current student government has done all of nothing to make my life as a student better, and they've actually succeeded in making it worse. How's that for pathetic?
I don't even know who John Weber is. Was he the guy who guarded the door? Nice.
Editing to add that I'll likely find any apology attempt now a bit insincere considering how close we are to elections. Really, it took them this long to realize that they acted like total power tripping tools?
Well, I'll definitely consider a vote for John. I personally would like to see a financial statement by you. It will give an example to others about accountability (no pun intended) and how honesty goes a long way.
Well, I thought you guys would be irritated... so, fair enough. I started talking to John about the apology well before Spring Break... he's been trying to get everyone on board. I have no idea if they'll send it out before elections or not - at this point, it would be better to wait - but, not my call.
No, student government doesn't do all that much but they do organize a lot of stuff that some students like to participate in... none of it's mandatory. We get a grand total of $20 of your fees for the entire year - the rest goes to student council. With that $20 we do the Christmas party, the after-block parties, and the end-of-year party. Also intramurals, which are quite expensive. And the donor memorial. Which - again - all of it is strictly voluntary. But we have to sell t-shirts and do fundraisers because the $20 ain't nearly enough (and Lord knows what Stuco does with the rest). I spend most of my treasurer time endorsing stacks of t-shirt checks and adding 'em up. I am also going to be working my tail off along with everyone else over the summer to do the info packets, Survival Guide, and clothing offers to the Class of 2011. It's not a small job.
Yes, John was the guy guarding the door. I had a lot to say to those three, too - but I was impressed that John was willing to admit that the whole thing was wrong. Bottom line: if you guys blow it off and don't vote, nothing will change next year. I think it's important to elect someone perhaps a bit more mature because the Pres sets the tone of what gets done. Personally, I'd like to see less drama next year whether I serve or not.
And nobody has patted my ass. I would have noticed.
Weber is the one who did most of the talking when I went it to answer their last conspiracy theory bullsh*t. I didn't even know who he was or what the h*ll he was doing there. I was told it would be dsouza and that vp chick. Neither of those two even said more than two words if I remember. So I guess I'm the lucky one who got 3 people instead of 2.
Jesus, don't tell me dsousa and weber are the only two running...
I'd vote for anyone besides those two.
BTW nontrad....you don't need to "organize" an apology and get everyone on board...they can act like men and admit they f*cked up and acted like ******ed tools or they can not do it. Since they've never done that, it's clear they aren't worried about it.
I didn't organize it, Johnny - I probably should have. Everyone in the meetings knew that I was more than PO'd, and Weber eventually came to me to ask me what I thought needed to be done to try to set things right to the extent possible (late, yes, but better than never) - and I told him that, IMO, an apology to the SDN group was more than warranted and not another statement to the entire class. They did act like ******ed tools but at least Weber confronted them with that news. I don't think I could have done the same thing because I could barely be civil when discussing the issue.
I think there are three candidates for Pres. I'm supporting Weber because I think he's the best of the three for that job. If I thought someone with the right maturity and experience was running who had never been involved, that's who I'd choose. Candidate #3 is an option if that's who you want.
Then candidate #3 it is ...#1 and #2 have already proven what they're made of.
It sucks that nominations are over already and they only sent out one email a couple of weeks ago to inform people... sorta let's you know they don't want many (if any) new people running. We get more emails for bar tours than for elections.
We NEED someone new doing notegroups for sure for obvious reasons. And I am going to request that all of us who want the electronic versions get them FREE. It's bullsh*t to ask us to do all the work creating the files and then we have to pay for them on top of that. If you wanted printed copies in your mailbox you should pay. But it's rediculous to tell a student "Here, do all this work....and pay me for the honor of doing it"
Well, I've taken enough of your time on this issue - so I'll drop it after this. But, when you vote, please vote for something not just against something. Weber is by no means my best buddy after what happened to us and my support is a pretty impersonal decision. The way the Pres/VP got into this whole mess was when the Pres/VP were asked by the "front office" to "look into" the test ID issue. The current Pres was very surprised when I told him that, in my opinion, agreeing was the biggest mistake he made - the correct answer should have been, "no, thank you, we'd rather not be involved; students have no business investigating other students." Weber got involved late. I know Candidate #3 - very nice guy and I like him, but very easy-going. I'm not sure I can see him responding any differently if the situation were repeated. If you want a decent student gov that stays out of your life and doesn't do stupid stunts, we're going to have to have someone who recognizes that being an advocate for the Class of 2010 may involve saying "no" to Administration. I can't do much because only the Pres and VP are invited to the monthly Administration/student gov meeting. I think Weber learned a lesson and I can see him saying "no" - that's why he's got my vote, out of the only three choices we have.
I totally disagree. 90% of voting ends up voting "against" something...ie...90% of democrats vote for democrats regardless, same for republicans.
It's silly to say weber would stand up to the admin on behalf of the students, because he didn't have the b*lls to admit he was wrong and apologize just to regular students. If he is gutless towards students, do you think he'll be all "braveheart" towards the administration? lol
I'm not voting against weber and dsouza because of race, religion, fatness, baldness etc... it's because they've PROVEN (more than once) that they won't do a good job representing the students, and that's ALL they're supposed to do.
And I'm surprised that you, someone who was supposedly "so angry, offended, and really let them have it"...are now weber's public relations man on sdn and telling everyone what a great leader he would be.
Someone who HASN'T failed at their "job" deserves a chance. They have no authority, no power, nothing. ALL they are supposed to do it be advocates for the students and represent our voice. They did the exact opposite so they've become a joke and the admins and professors know it.
Irregardless, one of those two may end up getting the spot, and some of the others who don't do their jobs right may end up getting spots, but it won't be because they got my vote.
Oh Johnny, angry Johnny...
Since I don't know what the big deal is, here is a picture of a bunny with a pancake on his head...
That is one charmin' muhfukin' bunny...
All I see is a box with a question mark (much like life)
And I love Poe
I still want free e-notegroups for everyone regardless.
The problem with notegroups is that nobody wants to do it because it has to be a huge pita. I know I sure as heck wouldn't do it. I'll be curious to see if somebody decides to take the current notegroups person on.
About standing up to the administration, that's certainly not something that I can see our current prez doing. I've seen him have conversations with JA, and he looks so deferential when he does that.
So I guess I'm bugged at the admin and at our class officers for this fiasco. Plus, I've heard some rumors that there was indeed a list and that it was circulated amongst class officers, so it makes it seem like we SDN people were scapegoated.
hmmm...that better not be true. But I wouldn't be surprised. They aren't the most honest group of people.
oh well...maybe I'll get two D's and can switch to class of 2011
btw...I've been doing these Physio block 1 practice exams on blackboard and...wow...I've forgotten quite a bit.
And they're part of the gunner crew, which makes them a little more likely to have an interest in the list. From what I've heard, the list wasn't circulated at class officer meetings or anything, but the prez and his buddies (you know, the guys who bet each other on who can get the highest grade in everything) are rumored to have had the list. I don't know -- I think people who have a betting pool on who can score the highest on tests are more likely to create and circulate a list like that than we slacker types who hang out on SDN.
Again, all rumors, but we were called in and treated suspiciously based solely on rumors, and well illiterate people who can't interpret our conversations. So I don't know, but if they were going to do a thorough investigation, the fact that they focused solely on SDN posters says a lot about how skewed and worthless the investigation was.
So I guess people in the admin actually do read SDN. That just seems so inappropriate to me.
Man, this is dredging up so much -- I guess I'm still a little raw about this IDgate BS. Anyway, I'm still p&ssed at Leon for not apologizing. That would have been the really upfront thing to do, and he didn't do it. I understand that it was just an honest mistake, and things like that happen all the time. However, the right way to deal with it is to be honest about it and apologize.
Maybe that's the only way they can gauge what's going on since your student reps aren't repping. And maybe I'm really an admin spy rather than a non-trad doc wannabe...
Bah, enough politics....go back to complaining about how hard classes are. I like that better....it gives me something to look forward to.
no ****...I was in a great mood til all this crap got drudged up again.
ok...so....classes are as hard as a 13 yr old boy at a Victoria's Secret premiere.
Hard like woodpecker lips...
that's more like it...
So does anybody have any insight as to why DCs are less qualified to give health advice than MDs or DOs? I know it's true, but I'm too lazy to look stuff up. I got into this online fight with this DC over vaccinations, and she kept on asserting that DCs are doctors, too, and know as much as MDs and DOs about stuff.
Speaking of other political stuff, does anybody wish that people would stop sending us emails about bills? It seems like the discussion board's a better place for that.
DCs? Are you talking about quackopractors giving health advice? I don't know much about their training, but every time I hear what they tell people who go to them for adjustments and then talk medical issues other than musculoskeletal, I think: "They should stick with back cracking." It's just weird some of the stuff they spout out, but I don't think all of them are like that either though; probably just the ones who wanted to be MDs/DOs but couldn't get accepted.
If you check the grades page linked on Hippocrates, they've added our summer and fall clerkships to the list. I went there to see if IMPS and HB had been posted yet and was kind of surprised. It brings a whole new reality to this fantastic journey.
The clock hours thing is kind of daunting.
I'm too lazy too look up stuff as well...but I would just say that I would no more seek medical advice from a chiropractor than I would from dentist.
They don't have the training or skills.
So if a guy gets his leg torn off in a car wreck and is brought to the hospital, the chiro is gonna do what? check his vertebral alignment? And the dentist will do what? See if he has any cavities? Give him a root canal?
I downloaded a program for my Macbook that puts a countdown clock up in that top menu. I set mine for the Physio final exam and it shows in real-time to the second how much more study time we have.
Any of you Mac'ers can get it at
It's kinda cool, but makes me go a lot.
I've been using a countdown timer to stay disciplined in my studies...50 min grind, 10 min break, rinse and repeat, ad nauseum...
There is a new style of body armor, this Dragon Skin stuff, that is supposed to be the shiznit, but none of their testing studies would have passed the EBM gauntlet, just some REAL bad science. It failed a bunch of govt standard testing. Anyway, the guy that helped develop it, who espouses all this "knowledge" he has about blast injuries and ballistics? A dentist. He conveniently leaves DDS off all his writings, leading the reader to believe he is some trauma Dr.. If I need a tooth pulled, I'd go see him. Need body armor? Probably not...
Not sure why, but now you know more than you wanted to about dragon skin...
OH, chiropractors....there was guy on my baseball team in HS whose dad was a DC and anytime you had an ache or pain or something, he would have you hold up the "contralateral" arm, "ABducted" until parallel with the ground. Then, he'd say "don't let me push it down" while he palpated a bit around where you said you were hurting originally. I don't really know what he was doing. I guess if he hit a sore spot, some part of your "Brodmann's 4" would not be able to keep your arm up, from a brief focus on the pain?? There is prolly some pathway I should know that would apply here. I dunno, we all just thought he was ****ing with us.
They haven't added mine... and it's not even like last year when they would have had reason to think I might not make it to next year...
EDIT: Johnny, I too was in the group of people on pins and needles waiting for my grades from the neuro & phys finals because I knew if I only failed ONE I'd be okay... but I busted my ass for the finals and passed them both, and I'm sure you will too