University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 3

[want2beadoc]

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Thanks, I thought it was time for a change. Too many cats on the discussion board at one time. 😉

I haven't watched House in a while, but when I do I find it amusing. Scrubs is my personal favorite medical show.

I'm hoping to do well on this pharm test... because I plan to spend the rest of the year trying to get my grade in IHI back up after I fail it this Friday. I really need to stop procrastinating.

 

[Jwax]

I haven't watched House in a while, but when I do I find it amusing. Scrubs is my personal favorite medical show.

I plan to have house be my study break this evening. Scrubs is pretty hilarious. I didn't like it when it first came out, but started catching old episodes of it last year and thought it was great - so I started renting. Kinda switched from Scrubs to other shows though, so I lost track somewhere in the 3rd or 4th season. I'm really into Alias right now. I think I will have an Alias marathon session after TB1 is done.

Went to the clinic again tonight. I highly recommend that you guys sign up to volunteer at one of the clinics. They are great! I've been going to Crossings b/c it's about a mile from my house, and today they let me take two glucose tests 😛. I was pretty tickled about it. It's especially great b/c they (patients & docs) will let you "practice" your PE skills if there is time. I also really feel like I'm getting to help people (makes the clinic run more smoothly, chat with patients, etc), but if that isn't your thing - do it for the practice!

Okay... time to learn something... about anything... since I currently know nothing!!!!

 

[slackerqueen]

Hi! I'm a first year and long-time lurker who finally decided to quit being lazy and create an account (and thus another means of procrastination).

Have any of you fellow 1st years looked at the notegroups for Hanas yet? They're done by the same person who's doing the free notegroups for her mod....The first couple were typo ridden so I think I'm just going to study the syllabus instead...although Hanas is so dry....ugh....

 

[soonereng]

Hi! I'm a first year and long-time lurker who finally decided to quit being lazy and create an account (and thus another means of procrastination).

Welcome slackerqueen, although I doubt that you are much of a slacker since you got accepted to med school... 🙄

I have pretty much sworn off all the notegroups except the ones for HB, and those I just look at when I listen to the mp3s at double speed to make sure it's right, but only for those whose syllabus is sparse, otherwise I just listen to the mp3s with the syllabus.

Wow that was a really long run-on sentence.. 😱

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Hi! I'm a first year and long-time lurker who finally decided to quit being lazy and create an account (and thus another means of procrastination).

Have any of you fellow 1st years looked at the notegroups for Hanas yet? They're done by the same person who's doing the free notegroups for her mod....The first couple were typo ridden so I think I'm just going to study the syllabus instead...although Hanas is so dry....ugh....

Yeah, SDN's a great place for exam block slacking. 😉 One thing you might not know about is that the note groups for the previous year are archived. When you go to the main note groups pace, there's a link at the top for the archives. I don't remember how good ours were last year for his lectures, but I doubt the content of his lectures has changed very much.

The good news is that Hanas and Broyles are pretty much the worst you're going to have in lecture/syllabus quality for biochem (or for anything else for that matter) since you guys are lucky and don't have Steinberg. I've got some study guides, too, which I can send to you if you pm me your email address. They might also be floating around in your class.

 

[slackerqueen]

HB? What's that? 😀 Kidding, I do go to class and take notes religiously so I don't listen to those mp3s or read those notegroups at all.

Thanks for the tip, Bagel, and for offering to send me the study guides! A PM has been sent your way. 😛

 

[Doctor Bagel]

HB? What's that? 😀 Kidding, I do go to class and take notes religiously so I don't listen to those mp3s or read those notegroups at all.

If you do that, you'll have no problems at all with HB.

 

[Jwax]

Have any of you fellow 1st years looked at the notegroups for Hanas yet? They're done by the same person who's doing the free notegroups for her mod....The first couple were typo ridden so I think I'm just going to study the syllabus instead.QUOTE]

Hmmm imagine that 🙄.

Welcome Slacker. It seems the class of 2011 isn't all that into SDN. I've met a few others who have said they are lurkers that quit posting for the most part, so I know some folks out there read this. Thanks for chiming in.

Is it a really bad sign that I am already feeling burned out? My goal is to make tonight, tomorrow, and Thursday incredibly efficient study nights and then take Friday off. This needs to actually happen.

Happily, while reading over my anatomy notes, I feel a slight bit more confident about that class. Emphasis on slight bit... Two catch phrases to keep me / us going:

"C = MD"
"You know what they call the person who graduates last in their medical school class? Doctor."

 

[slackerqueen]

Thanks for the welcome, everyone!

I feel burned out too. I'm definitely going to devote the next few nights to biochem and anatomy b/c I feel good about embryo (I'm one of the few, apparently) and HB will be a cram-the-night-before-the-test thing.

Now back to prenatal diagnosis vs. screening...

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Happily, while reading over my anatomy notes, I feel a slight bit more confident about that class. Emphasis on slight bit... Two catch phrases to keep me / us going:

"C = MD"
"You know what they call the person who graduates last in their medical school class? Doctor."

Since the only people I hear this from are likely doing "better" than me, it's pretty hollow. It's a lot like rich people telling you money isn't everything. Yeah to YOU! YOU HAVE SOME!! You don't hear any homeless people saying that ****. I'd trade transcripts with 95% of the spouting this crap. Or just 95% of anyone for that matter...😎

Although, I guess it's okay to feel like the annual "AdCom Mistake"™ when you are surrounded by some pretty smart people...

 

[Jwax]

Although, I guess it's okay to feel like the annual "AdCom Mistake"™ when you are surrounded by some pretty smart people...

Smart people are obnoxious. They make me want to do this:

Okay, not really. That icon just makes me giggle... still.

I'm sorry you feel like a mistake. Hopefully your parents planned to have you, so aren't an all around mistake 😉.

I'm not sure yet if I'm one of those "hollow" folks you mention b/c I just honestly have no clue how I will perform at this point. I can easily imagine all the possible scenarios of grades. Fortunately, I'm a darn good multiple choice picker - one of the few things that I can say Princeton review REALLY helped with. They hardcore teach you how to eliminate "bad choices". Reducing your odds is everything. Anyways - if I fail TB1 then I'm not "hollow". If I pass (or even better, make all > or = B's) I will shut up.

Well, I probably won't shut up. It takes a lot to get me to shut up. You'd probably have to do this to get me to shut up.

 

[want2beadoc]

What time is it?
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8MDNFaGfT4[/YOUTUBE]

Yeah I don't do near as well as most people in my mod, so I know how you feel somewhat. Then I remember that life isn't all about school and I feel that I'm pretty well liked (in my mod - I'm pretty low profile everywhere else). I think.

 

[want2beadoc]

I was just about to write a comment about that damn grading system, but then I decided to replace it with the banana. I also wanted to add that being an engineering undergrad is a little bit of a problem sometimes. In undergrad the majority of my tests were either open book or had allowed 8x11 large equation sheet. Memorization was almost completely discouraged. It was hard moving back to the field of MC questions ruling all.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Smart people are obnoxious. They make me want to do this:

Okay, not really. That icon just makes me giggle... still.

I'm sorry you feel like a mistake. Hopefully your parents planned to have you, so aren't an all around mistake 😉.

I'm not sure yet if I'm one of those "hollow" folks you mention b/c I just honestly have no clue how I will perform at this point. I can easily imagine all the possible scenarios of grades. Fortunately, I'm a darn good multiple choice picker - one of the few things that I can say Princeton review REALLY helped with. They hardcore teach you how to eliminate "bad choices". Reducing your odds is everything. Anyways - if I fail TB1 then I'm not "hollow". If I pass (or even better, make all > or = B's) I will shut up.

Well, I probably won't shut up. It takes a lot to get me to shut up. You'd probably have to do this to get me to shut up.

I get on other boards that don't have don't they know how useful it is!?!

It seems like the fun of tests here is that narrowing down wrong answers still leaves 3-4.

Since it doesn't bother me, I will say my parents have been married less than one year shorter than I am old...😕 it didn't take very high level math before I deduced that one...

PBJ>>>everything else

 

[Doctor Bagel]

My parents told me I wasn't a mistake, but my sister said I was. Hmm, who's telling the truth? My parents would lie about this -- my mom claims that labor didn't hurt because she thinks it would make us feel bad. But my sister probably had no real clue since she wasn't all that old when I was born. We'll never know. 😉

So no more pharm tonight. It'll go how it'll go, and there's nothing I care to do about it now.

 

[soonereng]

Too bad the new "progressive" curriculum includes no mention of a new grading system.

I specifically asked about changing the grading system with the new curriculum when we had lunch with the deans last week. Dr. Hall said that they would be changing the weighting of things, but I still got the impression that it would be A-F rather than straight pass/fail since she mentioned that people "want to know how they are doing relative to their peers."

 

[Mr. Freeze]

I specifically asked about changing the grading system with the new curriculum when we had lunch with the deans last week. Dr. Hall said that they would be changing the weighting of things, but I still got the impression that it would be A-F rather than straight pass/fail since she mentioned that people "want to know how they are doing relative to their peers."

That's funny coming from people who were pissed at the prospect of people actually finding out how they were doing relative to their peers.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

That's funny coming from people who were pissed at the prospect of people actually finding out how they were doing relative to their peers.

Yep. 🙄 And if that were really a concern, couldn't they just release statistical data with every exam. As it is most of our professors don't do that, so most of us don't know how we're doing relative to our peers even with our old school grading system.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

"Hey, did you pass?""Yeah.""Me too." = still comparing with peers...only without the overwhelming feeling that you wish you had dumber peers...

Alas, time to break my fast, and then go compare my Pharm knowledge with that of my peers'

 

[soonereng]

Yep. 🙄 And if that were really a concern, couldn't they just release statistical data with every exam. As it is most of our professors don't do that, so most of us don't know how we're doing relative to our peers even with our old school grading system.

That's funny coming from people who were pissed at the prospect of people actually finding out how they were doing relative to their peers.

Well, she also asked if it was really fair for someone who totally smoked a class to get the same grade as someone who barely passed the class.

If they really believed that we weren't in competition with each other like they preach, they would go straight pass/fail and let the Step 1 scores do the talking. Either way, neither of our classes will see the changes though.

 

[Jwax]

I'm hoping that the upcoming 2 hour review of embryology will be enough to make me comprehend what the crap is going on in this class.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

OK, so more than half of the things I missed on that stupid PCM test are things where I had the right answer and then changed it to the wrong answer. 😡

I don't think pharm was nearly as bad as it could have been. I also think I officially love Dr. I because he seems so darn nice. 😍

 

[want2beadoc]

My problem is not with person that gets a 70 being at same level, but the person that gets an 89 vs 80 vs 89.5. If there are 20 people getting an A and then 80 people getting a B but the median was an 82 and I got an 89, it becomes irritating.

Pharm wasn't as bad as it could have been. IHI will make up for it though.

I like Dr. I's personality, too.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Well, she also asked if it was really fair for someone who totally smoked a class to get the same grade as someone who barely passed the class.

If they really believed that we weren't in competition with each other like they preach, they would go straight pass/fail and let the Step 1 scores do the talking. Either way, neither of our classes will see the changes though.

Presumably if a person really who really smokes the class learns what she's supposed to learn, she should be rewarded with a higher board score or just an easier time studying for the boards because she put so much work in earlier. Also, the thing is you can make an A in lots of classes without coming close to mastering the material, and I'm speaking from personal experience here. When generally 50 or so people make an A in even the toughest classes, making an A doesn't feel like much of an honor.

I think a better plan to really honor the top, top students would be to have something like an honors and pass system where there's some limit on how many people can get honors (like 5% or so), and everybody else falls into the pass system. That way the really competitive people have a goal to work toward and get a distinction for it that actually says something as opposed to getting an A along with 1/3 of your classmates. And rest of us could just hang out and work on learning what we need to know to do well on the boards and to be good physicians.

Following on that, I've wondered if pass/fail students have an advantage when it comes to the boards because they focused on learning bigger picture stuff that they'll retain instead of wasting most of their time learning minutiae for exams.

 

[want2beadoc]

I agree with you Bagel.

 

[soonereng]

Following on that, I've wondered if pass/fail students have an advantage when it comes to the boards because they focused on learning bigger picture stuff that they'll retain instead of wasting most of their time learning minutiae for exams.

Hence my focus is not on grades, but on learning the stuff to smoke the boards...

 

[soonereng]

On that note, I'm sure it's more demanding to have to commute with a family at home. Blocks 4-12 will be much more conducive to your lifestyle.

Good to hear.

So it's after lunch. Do you want to enlighten us on OU's CS2 situation?

 

[glp]

G
I feel the same way. I'm in the minority here, but I somehow think that H/HP/P/F-style grading wouldn't be increasing in popularity throughout the country if it didn't work.

dont assume something becomes popular in academia because it is effective.

i think the grading systems are mostly irrelevant. in the end we are all going to be ranked against each other regardless of whether they use h/hp/p/f or a/b/c/d. as far as discrepancies bt 89s and 80s, that will be sorted out in the rankings too. people that do well in one system arent going to do any less well in another. all grading systems are inherently flawed. pick one and move on.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

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[soonereng]

Fixing up old Children's was an unnecessary expense. Second year hardly utilizes the space at all, so under status quo they are fixing up rooms to go basically unused. Maybe that will change in the future, but I am a very impatient person when it comes to progress.

We actually use the old childrens space two afternoons a week, but my PCM doc said that they are going to tear out that stuff and move it "closer," wherever that may be.

 

[Jwax]

I just want to say my brain hurts and I'm tired of studying. I think I'm going to have to take Friday night completely off of studying b/c I'm going to burn out next week if I don't.

I thought I'd add that I did find the embryo review useful. If nothing else, it made me feel as if the concepts were within grasp if I just really looked closely at it. I may give embryo a few hours of attention to figure out Rada's stuff over the weekend (since I haven't actually looked at any of it yet...), but the rest will be *hopefully* memorizable the day before. I'd reallly like to just not study Broyles or Hanas at all and just ace Unger and B's part.

Why am I the only one up at chatty at 2am? .... Since I'm ditching HB tomorrow I don't have to be on campus until PCM @ 1:30, which makes me a happy camper.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Why am I the only one up at chatty at 2am? .... Since I'm ditching HB tomorrow I don't have to be on campus until PCM @ 1:30, which makes me a happy camper.

=)

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I just want to say my brain hurts and I'm tired of studying. I think I'm going to have to take Friday night completely off of studying b/c I'm going to burn out next week if I don't.

Good idea. Lame SDN comment about medical school in general, but test block's definitely a marathon and not a sprint. Go out to eat with your fiance, watch a movie, etc..

Yeah, embryo is not going to be that bad, and Dr. Rada is very fair. The questions are going to be straight forward first order type of stuff.

We're almost done! 👍

 

[soonereng]

Is this new avatar week? I missed the memo...

So Bagel, you went from a death-ray killer to being cheap and juicy??? Surely there is something behind that...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Is this new avatar week? I missed the memo...

So Bagel, you went from a death-ray killer to being cheap and juicy??? Surely there is something behind that...

Lol, I know -- exam block procrastination I guess. 🙂 So cheap and juicy is a line in a Regina Spektor song that's been stuck in my head for like the past month. I thought that picture would fit so voila. What's cheap and juicy in the song is tangerines, but I don't think my cat would like that too much.

If anybody's curious about her absent ear, she had two mast cell tumors on that ear a few years ago, so the vet cut it off. 🙁

 

[soonereng]

My tagline is also a song lyric (as is my location, though not the same song). Anybody know the band?

Marcy Playground...

Editing to add that I like their songs: Poppies and St. Joe as well as Sex and Candy

 

[glp]

If anybody's curious about her absent ear, she had two mast cell tumors on that ear a few years ago, so the vet cut it off. 🙁

the first thing that went through my mind when i read this was "is that one of the ones on the IHI test?"

ill join the new avatar crowd. time to learn me some neoplasms.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

If you are cat people, you'd prolly get a kick out of the "i can haz cheezburger?" blog. But I'd refrain until you have time to spare. It has gems such as:

and:

 

[want2beadoc]

It's marathon time, I wish you all luck. I like all the new avatars.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

glp, your avatar looks dangerously like a retrieving hound behind some sort of blind...

 

[glp]

glp, your avatar looks dangerously like a retrieving hound behind some sort of blind...

yes and if you look closely you can see the shotgun leaning against the wall to the left of her head.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Ahh, the disappearing scattergun trick...

She looks like she's been around a bit. My dog'll be 11 (77?) this winter. If she wasn't white, I'm sure there'd be some gray. She's starting to get pretty cloudy in the lenses. But she's worthless, lays around the house all time, so she'll prolly live another 11. I hope so, because I can explain death to a 12 year-old a whole lot easier than a 5-6 year-old.

"Life is particularly too short for dogs. If there was ever a clear error made by God, Evolution, or whatever you choose to call the great determinant, it was the life span of dogs. There's just no logical reason for dogs living as short as they do."
-Big Damn Book of Sheer Manliness

 

[Jwax]

Good idea. Lame SDN comment about medical school in general, but test block's definitely a marathon and not a sprint. Go out to eat with your fiance, watch a movie, etc..

Yeah, embryo is not going to be that bad, and Dr. Rada is very fair. The questions are going to be straight forward first order type of stuff.

We're almost done! 👍

We'll probably cook some beef stir-fry and go out and see Milla's new movie - resident evil III. It'll be good.

I realized today that I've studied a little bit about everything... but have mastered nothing. Nor have I memorized much of anything, either. Oh well. I guess I'm in an okay spot right now since I can cram a lot in to my brain at the last minute.

I kinda like Dr. Rada - she's apparently not a hit as a lecturer, but she seems like a nice woman. LoL - someone asked Odon at the review yesterday if the written exam was going to be the same difficulty level as the pre-test and he's like well, yeah. We all boo and he responds, "This is medical school after all." Yeah, thanks....

 

[glp]

LoL - someone asked Odon at the review yesterday if the written exam was going to be the same difficulty level as the pre-test and he's like well, yeah. We all boo and he responds, "This is medical school after all." Yeah, thanks....

and so it begins.

 

[soonereng]

So I just volunteered for the chest pain ddx training research the Saturday after test block. My brain will probably be fried by then and will screw up their results: my skills after the training will probably be worse than prior to it.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

0900?

I think. Of course I was wrong about pharm.

My stamina's gone. I'm tempted to call it a night, but you MS3s have scared me with all your talk about people failing this exam.

I liked Dr. Rada, and I liked Dr. Wiechmann, too -- he's her husband. They're both nice, write straight forward tests and basically keep your med school life a little more pleasant and doable. O'Don's funny and charming, but he always seemed to make things harder (at least that was my perception).

Editing to add that I just checked the schedule on blackboard, and it is definitely 9. None of this 8:30 business. 🙂

 

[Jwax]

So I just volunteered for the chest pain ddx training research the Saturday after test block. My brain will probably be fried by then and will screw up their results: my skills after the training will probably be worse than prior to it.

I haven't volunteered yet b/c the SO and I are supposed to go for a day-trip to Wichita mtns that day, but according to the weather channel there is a 60% chance of rain that Saturday. So, we might go Friday and then I can hang out with O'don on Saturday 😍. Of course, I might not like him so much by that point 🙄.

I liked Dr. Rada, and I liked Dr. Wiechmann, too -- he's her husband. They're both nice, write straight forward tests and basically keep your med school life a little more pleasant and doable. O'Don's funny and charming, but he always seemed to make things harder (at least that was my perception).

Charming would be a good word to describe him. One of my male classmates said that odon must emit really strong pheromones (sp?) and that's why all the ladies have crushes on him (I am by far not alone on this, BTW).

I am looking forward to the white trash bash next Friday night. I've got my outfit all planned out already... b/c that's more fun to think about than anatomy . It is amazing that I have taken some of the anatomy quiz bank questions 3 times and still get things wrong... Boo.

 

[Jwax]

If you are cat people, you'd prolly get a kick out of the "i can haz cheezburger?" blog. But I'd refrain until you have time to spare. It has gems such as:

that is hilarious, btw.

 

[slackerqueen]

I volunteered for the Sat. thing as well.

The only explanations that I have are: 1.) I'm a crazy nerd who likes to learn, or 2.) I have a crush on O'Don as well.

Now back to anatomy...

 

[Jwax]

Another day, another 2am that I'm up and studying. I was taking one of those quiz things that you do for myspace / xanga / whatever, and there were several questions asking about what you were doing a) 2 days ago; b) last Friday; and c) last Saturday. I simply could not remember what on earth I did last saturday. It actually just now hit me - I went to the game. I have been blank on it for the last 4 hours.

Anyways... point being - my brain is sucked dry.

For any of you 1st years that don't check the discussion board, I found this awesome anatomy site: http://www.instantanatomy.net/anatomy.html
Check it out if you need a little extra help on anatomy. GREAT diagrams. I managed to pass the anatomy pre-test tonight (all by my lonesome, unless you count Netters, Skeletal atlas, wikipedia, google, and all of my notes for anatomy / slides....). Our exam is open book, right? I noticed an MSII was making fun of us first years for getting all panicked about our first test block. That was sweet... It is kinda funny though, from an outside perspective. I felt much better about my level of freaked-outness once I learned that everyone else was feeling just as f***ed up.

Ok - time for 😴 I don't do the sleep deprivation thing until actual test time. I will probably be surviving on only a few hours of sleep like everyone else starting Sunday.