University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 3

[Doctor Bagel]

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So is this IHI thing today really going to take 3 hours? I hope not.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Any concept mappers here?

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Was the PCM review or Pharm problem session helpful?

If you've done the p-set that was emailed and found it easy, don't listen. If you did the p-set and found the last 2 probs difficult, don't worry because those are questions he uses because they are hard and we won't see anything of that caliber. If you did part of the p-set, threw up your hands in defeat because you can't remember how to divide a number by a decimal, you might listen.

Really, any difficulty in the kinetics/dynamics (whichever is what requires equations...) is knowing what terms in the equations are synonymous with the words in the question. Everything else is plug-n-chug.

I didn't go to PCM, but I heard it was helpful from the "oh **** why did I wait until dead week to begin THINKING about PCM" point of view. He's gonna post the slides, and it was taped. I think everything will come from lecture = notegroups...

 

[Amxcvbcv]

If you've done the p-set that was emailed and found it easy, don't listen. If you did the p-set and found the last 2 probs difficult, don't worry because those are questions he uses because they are hard and we won't see anything of that caliber. If you did part of the p-set, threw up your hands in defeat because you can't remember how to divide a number by a decimal, you might listen.

Really, any difficulty in the kinetics/dynamics (whichever is what requires equations...) is knowing what terms in the equations are synonymous with the words in the question. Everything else is plug-n-chug.

I didn't go to PCM, but I heard it was helpful from the "oh **** why did I wait until dead week to begin THINKING about PCM" point of view. He's gonna post the slides, and it was taped. I think everything will come from lecture = notegroups...

For pharmacology don't forget to look at the steps for metabolism of drugs... conjugation and others that I can't remember. Locations where they take place are important I seem to remember.

 

[Benoit]

Congrats on the interview, Mom! Be a reasonable human being and you'll be around with us next year. It's that simple, in my opinion.

Test block in a little over a week. Are the 125 pages of HB outline in the syllabus deceiving? It looks like it could make for a difficult test, but everyone says not to worry.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Most of the behavior/conditioning stuff should have been covered in freshman psych, and the Q's aren't tricky. I never remembered which reinforcement schedule was best for what, but the prof should have mentioned it.

Know the developmental stages--they are probably high yield for step I too, as least as far as human behavior is concerned. There are study guides accessible from the notegroups page for that stuff.

Old Apple Pies Lack Goo
Trusting Automakers Initiate Industry Incompetence
Rich Southern Preachers Caught Fornicating
All Stressed Doctors Practice Rage-filled Orgasms

The fluff lectures were straight-forward. Do you still have the test-taking strategy person? None of that will apply when you come to know and love Dr. Benyajati.

Yeah, I think the Dr. Allen and Dr. Scott? (can't remember his name -- reinforcement guy) stuff is what you should focus on. It's pretty simple stuff if you put in the time to memorize it (and yes, this can be done the night before the test). Also, memorize all of Morgan's conflict stuff, but you don't have to know what any of it means. The rest is largely fluff. I'd suggest reading through the unofficial guide because it'll tell you some specifics of what the professors will ask about.

 

[want2beadoc]

3 times is all you need.

 

[Jwax]

Test block in a little over a week. Is the 125 pages of HB outline in the syllabus deceiving? It looks like it could make for a difficult test, but everyone says not to worry.

yeah, I'm hoping everyone who says not to worry isn't just ridiculously smarter than me and I end up failing HB. I'd be embarassed, to say the least. I think I'll give notegroups a little look over this weekend. I am trying to get through all of our embryo slides today with some comprehension of their meaning. No bar tour for me this week (or next) 🙁. I'll be sure to party hardy after TB1, but I do get to go to the game on Saturday! 😀 Yay for $17 tickets!

 

[soonereng]

Yeah, I think the Dr. Allen and Dr. Scott? (can't remember his name -- reinforcement guy) stuff is what you should focus on. It's pretty simple stuff if you put in the time to memorize it (and yes, this can be done the night before the test). Also, memorize all of Morgan's conflict stuff, but you don't have to know what any of it means. The rest is largely fluff. I'd suggest reading through the unofficial guide because it'll tell you some specifics of what the professors will ask about.

Thanks for the heads up Bagel! 👍

Have we had Morgan yet? If so, I don't remember anything about conflict, but I haven't hit the HB super hard yet either.

Oh and thanks for the song...who has that much time to create that???

 

[Doctor Bagel]

yeah, I'm hoping everyone who says not to worry isn't just ridiculously smarter than me and I end up failing HB. I'd be embarassed, to say the least. I think I'll give notegroups a little look over this weekend. I am trying to get through all of our embryo slides today with some comprehension of their meaning. No bar tour for me this week (or next) 🙁. I'll be sure to party hardy after TB1, but I do get to go to the game on Saturday! 😀 Yay for $17 tickets!

Honestly, I'll say a mean thing here -- if you fail HB, you shouldn't be here. And truth be told, you wouldn't be here. You'd have to be illiterate and completely incapable of retaining anything if you failed that class. Wait until you take your first test, and you'll see that it's like an easy class in ugrad easy. You might make a B, but that's about as bad as it's going to get. About 95% of the students in your class probably won't do anything for HB until the night before the test, which is how it is every year, and it won't burn you.

 

[Jwax]

Wow... just looked at the discussion board and one of my classmates is offering to do notegroups for $10 (and will do them for her mod for free). 😎 It's okay, I didn't want to get married anyways....


Hmm now I'll be really embarassed if I fail HB, bagel 🙂. j/k I'm sure it will be fine.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Thanks for the heads up Bagel! 👍

Have we had Morgan yet? If so, I don't remember anything about conflict, but I haven't hit the HB super hard yet either.

Oh and thanks for the song...who has that much time to create that???

She did the death and dying thing, adult development and old age stuff. For the adult development and old age material, it's all what's the primary conflict for each age group and what's adaptive and what's not. I think it's all on her powerpoints, and I don't think you have to read her syllabus in any detail.

For Sherman, I think you mainly need to know about the different family dynamics (I think there are two) and the percentage of households where abuse occurs. Also, there might be some question about what you should do if you suspect abuse.

If Smith lectured on it, you should probably know about transference and counter-transference and also improper patient/physician interactions, which is pretty intuitive.

With Scott, be able to determine what's the unconditioned response and what the conditioned response is. And know the whole negative/positive reinforcement/punishment distinctions.

You've got to know all the stages for Allen's stuff, so if you're going to do anything before the night before, I'd suggest that. You didn't get to medical school without the ability to cram, though. 🙂

Whoever created that song did it during exam block. I think there was some procrastination going on there. 😉

 

[soonereng]

About 95% of the students in your class probably won't do anything for HB until the night before the test, which is how it is every year, and it won't burn you.

Something funny about this: Last week I ran into a guy from my high school who is finishing (finished?) his IM residency and may be working on a fellowship (yeah I'm getting old, I know). The one thing he told me in the few minutes we had to talk was: "Don't listen to people who say you don't have to study HB. It bit me."

I didn't have time to ask what he meant by that, but I'm going to put in more effort for HB than embryo since HB is 11% for the year vs the 4% for embryo.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Wow... just looked at the discussion board and one of my classmates is offering to do notegroups for $10 (and will do them for her mod for free). 😎 It's okay, I didn't want to get married anyways....

That is completely and totally ridiculous. She wouldn't even be pulling minimum wage with that rate. 😱

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Wow... just looked at the discussion board and one of my classmates is offering to do notegroups for $10 (and will do them for her mod for free). 😎 It's okay, I didn't want to get married anyways.

Stick to your guns...doing fewer for more money is a whole lot better than whorin' yourself out there for 10 bucks and getting flooded. FOR FREE!?!?! What the **** is that?!?! Didn't you guys already HAVE elections!?!?! Jeez, suck a few ballsacks why don't ya? At least that wouldn't take as long...

FREE?!?!?! Even WALMART doesn't pull dumb **** like that...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Stick to your guns...doing fewer for more money is a whole lot better than whorin' yourself out there for 10 bucks and getting flooded. FOR FREE!?!?! What the **** is that?!?! Didn't you guys already HAVE elections!?!?! Jeez, suck a few ballsacks why don't ya? At least that wouldn't take as long...

FREE?!?!?! Even WALMART doesn't pull dumb **** like that...

That poor girl is going to burn out so fast. Initially she's probably going to wind up doing every single notegroup, and then the quality's going to slide. I'm not seeing this as a good development for you guys.

OK, getting back to HB. I think doing well in HB is more about being able to deal with the type of questions they write than it is about studying. You have to be able to deal with some level of ambiguity, and going with your intuition is most likely to point you to the right answer. Over-thinking stuff is probably the biggest cause of wrong answers in that class.

 

[soonereng]

Something funny about this: Last week I ran into a guy from my high school who is finishing (finished?) his IM residency and may be working on a fellowship (yeah I'm getting old, I know). The one thing he told me in the few minutes we had to talk was: "Don't listen to people who say you don't have to study HB. It bit me."

I didn't have time to ask what he meant by that, but I'm going to put in more effort for HB than embryo since HB is 11% for the year vs the 4% for embryo.

I just looked at the IM residency website. He is/was chief resident (looks like he is starting a gastroenterology fellowship in July) so maybe it ruined his 4.0...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I just looked at the IM residency website. He is/was chief resident (looks like he is starting a gastroenterology fellowship in July) so maybe it ruined his 4.0...

Exactly. 😉 Maybe, maybe he made a C.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

I crammed it like a donkey in a border town, and while not elated with what I got, I got out what I put in. Well actually more, but only because I didn't need to study certain lectures...

 

[Jwax]

That poor girl is going to burn out so fast. Initially she's probably going to wind up doing every single notegroup, and then the quality's going to slide. I'm not seeing this as a good development for you guys.

I wish I could get our notegroups chair to regulate this somehow. I strongly am depending on good notegroups to get through HB and embryo (since I have pretty much refused to go to class at this point). I am not keen on having really sh***y notegroups that are simply verbatum syllabus/slides. I do my best to make my notes not repeats of the slides. I usually put in ~2 or 3 hours of time on the notes (1.5 before, 1 attending, 1 after to check over it). That is waaaay below minimum wage (I noticed this, too freeze). ridiculous.

My S.O. told me to wait it out and hopefully she'll burn out. My current primary emotion is sadness. 😡 (mixed w/anger) I liked the extra cash. I even mostly like doing notegroups. 👎 My S.O.'s other suggestion was to undercut her and offer $5 for a time . Yeah, I don't think so.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

I wish I could get our notegroups chair to regulate this somehow. I strongly am depending on good notegroups to get through HB and embryo (since I have pretty much refused to go to class at this point). I am not keen on having really sh***y notegroups that are simply verbatum syllabus/slides. I do my best to make my notes not repeats of the slides. I usually put in ~2 or 3 hours of time on the notes (1.5 before, 1 attending, 1 after to check over it). That is waaaay below minimum wage (I noticed this, too freeze). ridiculous.

My S.O. told me to wait it out and hopefully she'll burn out. My current primary emotion is sadness. 😡 (mixed w/anger) I liked the extra cash. I even mostly like doing notegroups. 👎 My S.O.'s other suggestion was to undercut her and offer $5 for a time . Yeah, I don't think so.

People will always pay more for quality. The 4th year class, when they were going through our world, could not find anyone to do notegroups for less than about $30. Most people probably just did their own. There is a lot to be said for heterogeneity, as we found out last year, and it sounds like y'all will as well. But, I'd just keep a base of "customers" and word'll stay out there. I personally gave people a hard time for "walmart-ing out their ng's"™, in a soft way, but one that still says, "you are ****ing the rest of us". After I quit reading them, if I ever did really, I didn't care. Basically I'm just paying a lot for mp3's...

Maybe your SO can come to WLH and do 'em for 5 bucks.

 

[Jwax]

Maybe your SO can come to WLH and do 'em for 5 bucks.

His job pays better than that (just like anyone else who isn't an illegal alien).

I don't think he understood the concept of notegroups when he suggested that. He gets it now.

Good thoughts, Freeze. So far, all the cool kids that have paid me seem happy with my work. So... I guess I'd rather earn ~$30 / week for one notegroups vs. $30 / week for 3 of them...

We all have to make a living though. maybe she really likes notegroups. 🙄

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I just looked at the IM residency website. He is/was chief resident (looks like he is starting a gastroenterology fellowship in July) so maybe it ruined his 4.0...

Josh Whorton? He's a cool guy. 😛


As for HB... the worst part for me was the last two pages where it's matching that are used "once, more than once, or not at all." Those freakin' sucked! There are always the easy few that you can't screw up, but then there are the one or two that you have no clue and you can't rule out answers. 🙁

 

[Amxcvbcv]

On an unrelated note, we received the health insurance packet for my wife's job today. I always go through and run the numbers to find the most economical plan for my situation in particular. Just a quick glance shows that we'll most likely have to pay about $250 more per month just to stay on our current plan. Bull****!

So much for that step "raise" she gets every year. Add in that my wife had her day ruined yesterday by a mother calling us to bitch about my wife's teaching techniques and that her daughter's poor performance and behavior are her fault. I'm positive that she's working harder than I am for less compensation. The kid in question is an absolutely horrible girl that does crap like hit other kids, make "dolphin noises" in class, and takes every opportunity to disrupt proceedings. My wife had been calling the mother (grandmother, actually... who know's where the precious sweetheart's mother has disappeared to) to let her know that her behavior was bad, she wasn't doing work, she was definitely going to fail at her current rate, and that she was generally being a holy terror in class. So... the grandmother calls us back yesterday afternoon and proceeds to RANT and yell at my wife over the phone, tell her she's a sorry excuse for a teacher, and that she's going to come to school tomorrow to see just what happens during her granddaughter's class.

The only silver lining is that the principal agreed last night to remove the girl from her class, and if the grandmother shows up on campus, she'll be not-so-quietly removed by the police. I almost want to be there to see it, but someone's got to be at the VA to hold a retractor while my patient gets an AV fistula constructed. 😉

 

[soonereng]

Josh Whorton? He's a cool guy. 😛

Yeah, Josh and I grew up together. We both grew up on farms in the middle of nowhere outside Hollis, OK which is itself in the middle of nowhere. Our dads were good friends and our farms weren't too far apart out in the country. We played sports together and went to the same church. He graduated HS a year ahead of me.

And if he is still the same as when we were younger, he is a cool guy. Very laid back, fun-loving, and easy to get along with. I just thought it was funny that out of all the advice he could give me, it was: "Study for HB." 😕

 

[Doctor Bagel]

On an unrelated note, we received the health insurance packet for my wife's job today. I always go through and run the numbers to find the most economical plan for my situation in particular. Just a quick glance shows that we'll most likely have to pay about $250 more per month just to stay on our current plan. Bull****!

So much for that step "raise" she gets every year. Add in that my wife had her day ruined yesterday by a mother calling us to bitch about my wife's teaching techniques and that her daughter's poor performance and behavior are her fault. I'm positive that she's working harder than I am for less compensation. The kid in question is an absolutely horrible girl that does crap like hit other kids, make "dolphin noises" in class, and takes every opportunity to disrupt proceedings. My wife had been calling the mother (grandmother, actually... who know's where the precious sweetheart's mother has disappeared to) to let her know that her behavior was bad, she wasn't doing work, she was definitely going to fail at her current rate, and that she was generally being a holy terror in class. So... the grandmother calls us back yesterday afternoon and proceeds to RANT and yell at my wife over the phone, tell her she's a sorry excuse for a teacher, and that she's going to come to school tomorrow to see just what happens during her granddaughter's class.

The only silver lining is that the principal agreed last night to remove the girl from her class, and if the grandmother shows up on campus, she'll be not-so-quietly removed by the police. I almost want to be there to see it, but someone's got to be at the VA to hold a retractor while my patient gets an AV fistula constructed. 😉

You're just reminding me why I never wanted to be a teacher. My mom supported by dad through grad school by teaching junior high english, and was like never again.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Swats.

.

 

[glp]

I just thought it was funny that out of all the advice he could give me, it was: "Study for HB." 😕

there is definitely some memorization for hb. i really got burned on the first test with not knowing all the freud/piaget/etc. development states. the thing is, about half the hb test is simple common sense that you could get right without ever having looked at any of the material. but there is enough recall that if you dont take the time to go over the syllabus, you will not be in 2/3 of the class that gets an A.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

If my memory serves me correctly, we were told that the MMI exams are 65 questions each. Are Pharm and IHI similarly standardized?

To what extent are path slides used on the exam?

What are these PCM slides at the beginning of the test?

IHI is going to be 75 or so questions, 7 of which will be slide-based. Holliman said we will get a clinical vignette to go along with the slides and that they wouldn't be super nit-picky stuff.

No clue at all about PCM. I'm apparently also missing pieces of the syllabus which were distributed in class.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

What are these PCM slides at the beginning of the test?

The PCM slides for us were super easy. They come straight from the powerpoints or the modules on hippocrates.

I think there were usually ten or so slides.

 

[Jwax]

WOW - Ice - thanks for the Alanis M. link. That is amazing.

Four thoughts:

1) The lyrics are so much stupider when you can actually understand them
2) Alanis has a freaking amazing voice. I had forgotten how amazing she was.
3) Alanis is hilarious for doing this.
4) Alanis is not a very good dancer, but she does a good job of beating the crap out of the guys as they cop feels.

Fabulous.

 

[soonereng]

With test block approaching, I thought I would put out my favorite med school music video. If you haven't seen this yet (and even if you have), enjoy!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojjUGE2BH_E[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I think I'm burned out. I studied a ton for me this week and now don't feel up to doing anything. Hmm, maybe I need some cocaine -- I heard it's a hell of a drug. 😉

And reading through the PCM syllabus convinced me that I never want to do eye or ENT exams, so there goes two specialty options.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Ditto on the catecholamine reuptake inhibitor. BTW I replied to your post on 2012. The data can't be right, but I'm not sure how to clear up the confusion.

Any word on the use of calculators in pharm? The H-H examples with whole pH unit increments away from pK I can do (though I have no idea why he explained it the way that he did or rearranged the equation like that), but fiddling with fractions of half-lives requires a calculator that can do exponents, no?

A reasonable explanation would be that we could estimate if we know the concept, but I don't have a lot of faith in that approach given my experience thus far.

I just do the half of a half of half method. It's always the same percentages, so you've either decayed that much from a bolus or accumulated that much if you've got a drip going. I think the no calc thing is an admin thing, broadly applied to testing, rather than course coordinators being ridiculous. But yeah, ******ed!

I think I'm gonna jack one of the 17 kids that ride their razors up and down my street. I know at least a couple of the little bastages HAVE to be holdin' some Riddlin'. Gonna be a long week...

 

[Amxcvbcv]

With test block approaching, I thought I would put out my favorite med school music video. If you haven't seen this yet (and even if you have), enjoy!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojjUGE2BH_E[/YOUTUBE]

I miss having time to study. 😛

Seriously. With surgery you have just about no time to effectively study. I'm at the VA right now which is supposedly one of the easier surgery sites, but we're still running crazy hours every day.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

You guys are making me scared since I've spent maybe 2 hours studying Ceresa's stuff. Seriously all I want to do is study path. All our other classes are boring and stupid.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I wouldn't worry about it. It's just a cross between biochem and phys.

I only brought it up because I was running through his problems and started wondering how quickly I could crunch the numbers without a calculator.

How can you not love MMI? 😎

Speaking of which, I'm scratching my head over 23 on the hippo old exam. Insight?

The one about the Nigerian with TB? I think you're just supposed to think that the reaction to the PPD is a Type IV hypersensitivity, which is a cell-mediated response. Are those the only practice questions available to us, or is there something else?

And yes, MMI is officially lame.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

The Nigerian with TB is 23 on the question bank. The 23 I'm referring to is under "Old Exam Questions" on Hippocrates, the same form that the Wizard and Webmaster were chatting about a few DB posts beneath the webpath breast exam question.

Our POPS key is on Blackboard. Anybody know why we use Blackboard if Hippo is supposed to be the bomb? I guess it keeps people out who aren't enrolled in a particular class, but they can restrict our access on Hippo too since they control notegroup access that way. 😕

Yeah, I figured that one was maybe a little too easy to be stumped by. How did I miss that an old exam was posted on the MMI page?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

It was one of those cases where I was stumped only after I read what the correct answer was. Selection b has the most allelic difference, so I thought that it would stimulate the most proliferation. The answer on the key is shown as c.

I was just looking through it, and that's what I answered, too. We really didn't talk about that with any specificity so I don't see a way to solve other than that. I hate all the stupid how does this test work questions.

OK so I guess I'll just memorize that the right answer is the one with the most similarity without trying to understand it. I don't really want to bother with the details of how the MLR test works.

 

[PreMedMommy]

Grrrrr at PPV. I paid 30 bucks for my ppv ou vs. utah state game, and my d@mn satellite receiver won't pick up the satellite that is transmitting the signal. Sorry, had to vent.

 

[Jwax]

Wonderful video, soonereng! That's good stuff right there.

Just getting to watch O'Don's lecture that I missed due to ectopic pregnancy / peptic ulcer / teratoma / stress-induced / food poisoning stomach that I had wednesday. He makes some comment about being destined for an early death and was like, "It's okay though. I've accepted it. [pause] Lord, take me at any time." He cracks me up! It's almost as good as spending this hour watching alias instead (and I get to count it as studying).

Can I say that the nerves of impending test block are really starting to hit me? Does anyone else feel immensely guilty if they are doing anything with there time besides studying, even if it's eating / sleeping / showering? It's occured to me how little time is left for me to learn a ridiculous amount of information.

That being said, I had a great time in Norman today watching the Sooners stomp all over Utah St. It was beautiful. A friend is having a party down in N-town tonight and I rejected the invitation with zero thought. It was kinda like, are you kidding? Go to a party? Don't you realize I have tests in a little over a week??? 👎 Oh well. It probably wouldn't be that much fun anyways. 🙄

 

[Doctor Bagel]

That being said, I had a great time in Norman today watching the Sooners stomp all over Utah St. It was beautiful. A friend is having a party down in N-town tonight and I rejected the invitation with zero thought. It was kinda like, are you kidding? Go to a party? Don't you realize I have tests in a little over a week??? 👎 Oh well. It probably wouldn't be that much fun anyways. 🙄

So by next test block, you'd probably go to the party. 🙂 The longer I've been in school, the less I do the weekend before the week before test block. It's your last glorious time of freedom.

Have the MS2s noticed that everyone seems to be talking about whether or not to go to Tulsa? I felt like everybody I talked to on Thursday asked me about that, which surprised me because it's pretty early. It seems like everybody I talked to wants to go. Weird.

 

[glp]

So by next test block, you'd probably go to the party. 🙂 The longer I've been in school, the less I do the weekend before the week before test block. It's your last glorious time of freedom.

Have the MS2s noticed that everyone seems to be talking about whether or not to go to Tulsa? I felt like everybody I talked to on Thursday asked me about that, which surprised me because it's pretty early. It seems like everybody I talked to wants to go. Weird.

a couple of people have mentioned it. i noticed in november there is a day called tulsa day scheduled. does anyone know anything about this? is it obligatory? i have no desire to go to tulsa and was planning on being out of town for a long weekend, do i need to change my plans? anyone? anyone?

also, i love mmi, enthralling stuff, seriously. lots of acronyms, love acronyms. lots of fun.

 

[Jwax]

So by next test block, you'd probably go to the party. 🙂 The longer I've been in school, the less I do the weekend before the week before test block. It's your last glorious time of freedom.

I imagine you are correct. Our biochem mini and first exam account for 12 + 31 = 43% of our total biochem grade. The 2nd block exam is only worth 20%. So, I have a feeling my motivation will be markedly decreased by then. I feel that since our first exam is worth much more of our grade than the rest, it would be wise to do well on it. Theoretically, the 1st exam should be the easiest, too, because we are not yet "up to speed", so it "should" cover less material than I imagine the rest of our exams will.

I'm one of those people who is really gung-ho at the beginning of every semester, but as we go along I get tired and burned out from studying and my grades decline. So... hopefully I can do nearly as well on TB1 as I did on the mini, and I can do my typical slack off and still round out with >3.0. That's the goal.

Today - I am reviewing all notegroups for all classes. If I have time afterwards, I will follow with reading as much of the lecture slides / syllabus as I can for everything. I also intend to spend some time with my wonderful S.O. Currently, someone's car alarm is going off and it's pissing me off...

So MSII's have TB this upcoming week, right? Good luck to you all!

Do we find out how we did right after the exam like we did for the mini (i.e. we kept our answer sheets and got to compare to the correct answers an hour later)? b/c that would make me happy.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

a couple of people have mentioned it. i noticed in november there is a day called tulsa day scheduled. does anyone know anything about this? is it obligatory? i have no desire to go to tulsa and was planning on being out of town for a long weekend, do i need to change my plans? anyone? anyone?

also, i love mmi, enthralling stuff, seriously. lots of acronyms, love acronyms. lots of fun.

I didn't go for Tulsa day since I wasn't interested in going to Tulsa for 3rd and 4th year. It is not required, but from what I understand, they just take whoever is interested up to Tulsa and pair you up with some current MS3 and 4s to go see the different rotations.

Perhaps DMBfan can give his impression?

 

[Jwax]

Reading notegroups is just frustrating me. About half of them are good, a few are great, and the rest just effing suck. A few of them I have read over and thought WTF does this mean? It's like they only typed in the big medical words that have no meaning to this MSI. To translate their notes, I'd have to look up every freaking word online. 👎

Although, to be fair, Broyles lectures confused the crap out of me while listening to them in class, so I can see how it would be difficult to make a good notegroups for him (though not impossible if more time had been put into it).

Do any of the MSII's have a Broyles study guide? I got a Hanas one from Bagel, but I could use one for Broyles as well.

It is frustrating how I have spent the last 3 hours studying and feel as if I have learned nothing. Today... I hate school.

 

[soonereng]

Do any of the MSII's have a Broyles study guide? I got a Hanas one from Bagel, but I could use one for Broyles as well.

And if anyone does, pass it my way too please (PM me for my HSC address).

 

[Doctor Bagel]

also, i love mmi, enthralling stuff, seriously. lots of acronyms, love acronyms. lots of fun.

MMI makes me feel like a ***** because I'm completely unable to remember the differences between all the IL stuff. Sucks.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Seriously I'm getting worried about this Tulsa stuff because it seems like everybody and their dog wants to go now. 😱 I have a good reason, though, because my husband is a student at OSU, so being in Tulsa would make his life a lot easier. It's also closer to his family in NW Arkansas. I've also planned to go since day 1 so I'll be pretty bugged if I can't go. Of course they've never turned anyone away before, so maybe they'll just accommodate us if more people want to go.

And I should be learning which cytokines are released from NK cells.

Did anybody else find Dyer's syllabus amusing. He makes it sound like the bacteria are really cunning and making all these devious plans to evade antibiotics. Somehow I don't think it's as conscious of a process as he's describing.

 

[want2beadoc]

The entire syllabus is amusing to me but probably for different reasons. The genetics stuff was written by a prof who left OU 3-4 years ago and places far too great an emphasis on prescription and not enough on compliance as far as ABx therapy is concerned. This is a big problem for basic science professors IMO. What I found surprising was that there was a large enough sample size of gono-infected soldiers to be able to conduct such a study. Regardless, the point is moot today. Ceftriax is the DOC, and labs don't even test GC anymore unless super-gono is suspected.

It would be nice to feel like what we are learning is clinically relevant... thanks for destroying that illusion, Ice Nine. I quoted you because your messages seem to be written in invisible e-ink.