University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 4

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Jwax said:
I survived. I stopped throwing up right before I posted that and managed to not throw up again. I've spent the whole day laying in bed half-heartedly watching TV, wishing I could be doing anything, including studying, instead of feeling like I was going to vomit all day long. Miserable. I started feeling better around 7 or 8, and I managed to eat a bowl of soup a half an hour ago. I just wish I could recover all day tomorrow instead of going to Childrens ER and the donor appreciation thing.

I'm just as annoyed about the required friday 8am classes semester long. Painful.

Time to watch some lectures that I missed today. 👍
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maybe you're pregnant...w/ the honeymoon n all 🙂
 
JohnnyOU said:
maybe you're pregnant...w/ the honeymoon n all 🙂
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:meanie: No. Not for another 5+ years.

Mmm I just ate a slice of peanut butter toast and now I'm eating a bowl of oatmeal... YUMMY. It feels so good to eat!!!!
 
So someone asked about it on hippo, but what happened at the ARS thing today? Are points getting docked for those of us who didn't show up? Also, does anyone know if we're all supposed to do the neuro module at 1? It's in the CSETC, and there's no way we can all fit there.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
So someone asked about it on hippo, but what happened at the ARS thing today? Are points getting docked for those of us who didn't show up? Also, does anyone know if we're all supposed to do the neuro module at 1? It's in the CSETC, and there's no way we can all fit there.
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It's half and half AFAIK, per the Wed. afternoon lecture. If you haven't listened you might do that tonight...

ARS, IDK. My son had an appt. to get shots @ 2:30. I was actually hoping to go and see what the big deal was.
 
Mr. Freeze said:
It's half and half AFAIK, per the Wed. afternoon lecture. If you haven't listened you might do that tonight...

ARS, IDK. My son had an appt. to get shots @ 2:30. I was actually hoping to go and see what the big deal was.
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I don't know if it's professional to miss class to take your son to the doctor. j/k 😉

I'm guessing the IHI thing isn't required because it's not in the grading section of the intro to the class letter, and it's not on the Blackboard gradesheet. I'm really needing to get back into the school groove.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
I don't know if it's professional to miss class to take your son to the doctor. j/k 😉

I'm guessing the IHI thing isn't required because it's not in the grading section of the intro to the class letter, and it's not on the Blackboard gradesheet. I'm really needing to get back into the school groove.
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Actually, we discussed the lack of empirical evidence linking autism to MMR vax, and whether or not it was necessary to get varicella vax as chicken pox is pretty mild in kids. It was like getting to be a meddling standardized pt...

Then, I ran into an ex-gf in the waiting room who was getting the same done for her kids. I'm glad THAT didn't work out!!

And you go tomorrow at 1400. Post-posting, PCM asst. sent out list to hippo email...
 
Is anyone else up really late and having trouble getting to hippocrates or the #2 server? I find it disconcerting since I have not yet looked at the last 2 neuro lectures, and now, I can't get access. Since the TBL is likely to cover something important, I guess I will have to rely heavily on my groupmates. Thankfully, I finished the physio before I lost access.

If I continue attempting the homeschool thing, will I always feel guilty for not going to class on Tuesday, Wednesday mornings, and Thursday? I feel behind, but I know I am not really that behind the curve atm.
 
SoonerGeek said:
Is anyone else up really late and having trouble getting to hippocrates or the #2 server? I find it disconcerting since I have not yet looked at the last 2 neuro lectures, and now, I can't get access. Since the TBL is likely to cover something important, I guess I will have to rely heavily on my groupmates. Thankfully, I finished the physio before I lost access.

If I continue attempting the homeschool thing, will I always feel guilty for not going to class on Tuesday, Wednesday mornings, and Thursday? I feel behind, but I know I am not really that behind the curve atm.
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It looks like the HSC lost its internet connection. None of the ouhsc.edu domains I know of are working.
 
SoonerGeek said:
Is anyone else up really late and having trouble getting to hippocrates or the #2 server? I find it disconcerting since I have not yet looked at the last 2 neuro lectures, and now, I can't get access. Since the TBL is likely to cover something important, I guess I will have to rely heavily on my groupmates. Thankfully, I finished the physio before I lost access.

If I continue attempting the homeschool thing, will I always feel guilty for not going to class on Tuesday, Wednesday mornings, and Thursday? I feel behind, but I know I am not really that behind the curve atm.
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The way I look at it, the way to succeed is to memorize everything. Yeah, people can say all they want about having to 'integrate' and 'synthesize' and how 'memorization won't work' whatever, but the simple fact is if you haven't memorized the information, you can't integrate it. To that end, if spending the time and gas money to go to class and hear someone talk about something helps you memorize it, your guilt is probably well-founded. Personally, using that time to read your syllabus until you can quote it at will seems like a better use of time.

You do have to be very aware of falling behind, going to class or not. Keep a workable schedule. I usually just kinda shift my day later, since mp3's are usually up for that day. And I use notes from the archive pretty often, in an effort to stay on track. The class ahead of us is pretty much geniuses (I know this, because the Dean always tells us, like some older sibling whose shadow you can never get away from), so I trust their notes as long as lecturer was same, that sort of thing. I don't know if the same applies to you.
 
in case anyone was ever really curious, oatmeal tastes almost exactly the same going up as it does going down.

i ws fine all day yesterday, then i started throwing up again at about 3:30. didn't make it to our tbls. still feel like a piece of something awful. 🙁

had 3 notegroup requests for today; turned down the 3rd... it should be a fun weekend, since i can't eat without throwing up and i'm a week behind in school...
 
Jwax said:
in case anyone was ever really curious, oatmeal tastes almost exactly the same going up as it does going down.

i ws fine all day yesterday, then i started throwing up again at about 3:30. didn't make it to our tbls. still feel like a piece of something awful. 🙁

had 3 notegroup requests for today; turned down the 3rd... it should be a fun weekend, since i can't eat without throwing up and i'm a week behind in school...
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Well, that sucks. Maybe you got exposed to something on your honeymoon. 😕 I'd vote for contacting Dr. Blair to see if he'd waive your absence since you're sick.
 
I think I've lost ~8 lbs since Tuesday. Super - I had said I wanted to go on a diet when we got back from our honeymoon, I just didn't mean this. I'm better again today, just sooo weak. I'm eating only semi-solid foods today (ie applesauce, soups) to try and get my stomach back into the game. Hopefully tomorrow I can start eating (and feeling) like a normal person again.

I pretty much feel like I haven't started back at school yet since I made it to one morning's worth of classes. What does everyone think so far? I'm a little less freaked about physio after reading a little bit of the syllabus on Thursday night. It shouldn't be too terrible. Neuro has freaked me out since I knew we would have to take it. Watched the live histo lecture yesterday and fell asleep to it... so I'm in agreement with slackerqueen with the yawn for that class. 🙂

Trying to watch odon's neuro lectures. Fun stuff.
 
I have not talked to anyone who thinks that neuro is easy so far.
 
Jwax said:
You must not have spoken to soonereng or shortitalian yet 😉.
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Haha.. you flatter me.

As much as I was dreading TBL, I must say I do feel like I learned a lot 😱. It was very helpful to think through the topics presented, especially for neuro. Hopefully the future TBLs will be equally helpful, but we'll see.
 
O'don's neuro is the most bewildering material you will ever see. If you understand it easily, you're a damn genius. There's a reason why people in our class wrote a song about his neuro stuff. 😱

If you're like most of us, neuro is going to be one of those classes where you feel like you don't get it at all until you take a test. So you'll probably do OK even if you feel like you're going to fail. The grades for our neuro class were actually higher than our phys grades.
 
slackerqueen said:
I have not talked to anyone who thinks that neuro is easy so far.
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Jwax said:
You must not have spoken to soonereng or shortitalian yet 😉.
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I'm not a gunner, but I play one on TV... 🙄

Seriously, I think that neuro will be harder for me than phys, but that's just because phys is right up my alley as a former engineer. That's just the way that we think about the world: formulas and processes. I was talking with Dr. McHale who does the cardio section, and he has an engineering BS if that tells you anything.

I think that the neuroanatomy portion will be more difficult than the rest of neuro personally. I just hate having to learn the names of little bumps on the brain when I have no desire to go into neurology or neurosurgery. Again, the inefficiency of medical training astounds me. No wonder 1/5 of the GDP is spent on healthcare...no one in medicine knows how to streamline things.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
O'don's neuro is the most bewildering material you will ever see. If you understand it easily, you're a damn genius. There's a reason why people in our class wrote a song about his neuro stuff. 😱

If you're like most of us, neuro is going to be one of those classes where you feel like you don't get it at all until you take a test. So you'll probably do OK even if you feel like you're going to fail. The grades for our neuro class were actually higher than our phys grades.
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That's reassuring. Hopefully some of it will make sense as I look at it tomorrow. Plus I don't think we have anything required on mon/tuesday so I will hopefully learn a lot then. Homeschooling needs to NOT mean "sleeping in and slacking off".

Just read over the OUCOM class of '12 thread in pre-allo. It seems so long ago that we were in their shoes. I was so annoyed at the med students saying "congrats - welcome to hell" when I got accepted... but I completely understand now (and want to tell them the same). 😉
 
Doctor Bagel said:
O'don's neuro is the most bewildering material you will ever see. If you understand it easily, you're a damn genius. There's a reason why people in our class wrote a song about his neuro stuff. 😱
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This is great to hear, not because I understand it and am a genius (not true), but because bewildering might be an understatement 😕
 
shortitalian said:
This is great to hear, not because I understand it and am a genius (not true), but because bewildering might be an understatement 😕
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I watched one of his two lectures from Thursday while I was sick on Friday and it didn't really seem incredibly confusing, just incredibly memorization dense (like everything else, right?). I haven't watched the second though, so maybe that's where he'll lose me. I think I'll probably have to watch those lectures twice. It's difficult to try and figure out what study system to implement for our new classes. So far, I think I want to only read the syllabus for phys, except the confusing ones, but I think I want to watch lectures for neuro and histo. Anyone want to share their intended system?

It seems for the most part this semester we don't have a lot of required attendence days, just Wed (lab) and Friday (tbl). I guess either t/th is required for your rotation. But other than that, it seems pretty light. 👍
 
Jwax said:
It seems for the most part this semester we don't have a lot of required attendence days, just Wed (lab) and Friday (tbl). I guess either t/th is required for your rotation. But other than that, it seems pretty light. 👍
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I was looking at the schedule a couple days ago and am not looking forward to either EBM or the return of IMPS. :meanie:
 
Jwax said:
I watched one of his two lectures from Thursday while I was sick on Friday and it didn't really seem incredibly confusing, just incredibly memorization dense (like everything else, right?). I haven't watched the second though, so maybe that's where he'll lose me. I think I'll probably have to watch those lectures twice. It's difficult to try and figure out what study system to implement for our new classes. So far, I think I want to only read the syllabus for phys, except the confusing ones, but I think I want to watch lectures for neuro and histo. Anyone want to share their intended system?
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No system for me yet other than reading the syllabi, but it will come...

jwax said:
It seems for the most part this semester we don't have a lot of required attendence days, just Wed (lab) and Friday (tbl). I guess either t/th is required for your rotation. But other than that, it seems pretty light. 👍
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I like that some of the labs are online, so we don't even have to go on those days, but like slackerqueen said, there are several mandatory attendance things on the horizon with ebm and imps. 👎
 
I relied primarily on the syllabus for both phys and neuro. Dr. Blair writes a good chunk of the neuro syllabus, and his stuff is pretty good and well-organized (not to mention he does the cool bolding thing to emphasize what's important). Oh yeah, I also learned a good deal of phys from Costanza's big book (she also writes the BRS). It's especially useful for respiratory and the later part of cardiology where the syllabus isn't so great.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
I relied primarily on the syllabus for both phys and neuro. Dr. Blair writes a good chunk of the neuro syllabus, and his stuff is pretty good and well-organized (not to mention he does the cool bolding thing to emphasize what's important). Oh yeah, I also learned a good deal of phys from Costanza's big book (she also writes the BRS). It's especially useful for respiratory and the later part of cardiology where the syllabus isn't so great.
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Hmm I decided I better figure out what books I had bought (I bought a bunch from a 3rd or 4th year at the beginning of last semester). Looks like I've got BRS phys & neuro and a neuro atlas, along with USMLE first aid. I'm going to say if I need any sources outside of lectures, those ought to suffice. I scarcely used any books at all last semester. I skimmed Chungs every now & again before TB's and I read a chapter or two from embryo before I realized everything came directly from lecture. This pretty much seems to be the way all our classes are. If they are going to test us on it, they will mention it in lecture (or have it in the syllabus). I support that.
 
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Also adding that I get absolutely nothing from this, so it's not like I'm getting a kickback or anything on the stuff you buy. 🙂
 
So for the online neuro labs... what do we have to do? Just go onto blackboard? Does that mean we don't have to show up at all this week until friday's TBL (other than our rotations)? Cuz I still haven't managed to eat much of anything, and now my hubby's sick.... so staying home = good.
 
Yup, I think we get to stay at home (the quiz has to get done by the end of the allotted time period for lab). I hope that you all feel better soon!
 
slackerqueen said:
Yup, I think we get to stay at home (the quiz has to get done by the end of the allotted time period for lab). I hope that you all feel better soon!
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Thanks for the good news 🙂. Hubby's sleeping and I'm watching neuro lectures.

Not that I understand neuro really much at all (since there are about 8000 new words per lecture), but I do kind of like it. There is something incredibly neat about how well organized our bodies are. I wish I could grasp the concepts a little tighter so it could mean more, but it certainly seems like I won't have too much trouble correlating neuro with real world medicine.

Any of you older & wiser kids get to do a neurology rotation? What's it like? I think I'm going to pretty much get hooked on a new field of medicine every semester. Last semester was surgery, and I think this semester is neurology. 😳
 
Jwax said:
Any of you older & wiser kids get to do a neurology rotation? What's it like? I think I'm going to pretty much get hooked on a new field of medicine every semester. Last semester was surgery, and I think this semester is neurology. 😳
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Im on neurology right now. Every 3rd year takes it for 2 weeks. I hated neuro 1st year and my neurology experience has been unbelievable. So take that for what its worth. 👍
 
Jwax said:
Any of you older & wiser kids get to do a neurology rotation? What's it like? I think I'm going to pretty much get hooked on a new field of medicine every semester. Last semester was surgery, and I think this semester is neurology. 😳
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I had neuro right before Christmas break, and I'd say it was overall a very positive experience. Since the DLG has taken over the rotation has been completely overhauled. You learn a lot, and it's jam-packed with lectures, quizes, and standardized experiences. I think the Class of 2010 will probably be the last to get the 2-week version before it expands to 4 weeks. It is fascinating stuff. I think I liked the cerebral pathology more than everything below it. The aphasias and aprosodias are particularly neat (don't miss Dr. Ross's lectures toward the end of the semester. He's a great teacher!).

On the other hand, being a neurologist is a lot like an electrician. It's all about lesion localization - brain, brain stem, spinal cord, peripheral nerve, or neuro-muscular junction. You basically just work with giant lists of differential diagnoses.
 
Amxcvbcv said:
You basically just work with giant lists of differential diagnoses.
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Isn't that most fields of medicine?

I read one neurologist's take on being a neurologist. He said that it is a field best suited for people who like to think slowly, methodically, and logically. He also said that most of the time is spent managing chronic patients. I'm not very into thinking really slowly (I like quick decisions, right or wrong) and I am pretty uninterested in managing chronic cases. Oh, well. Neurology sounded fun for a minute.
 
Jwax said:
Isn't that most fields of medicine?
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No. Take surgeons for example. They're not into differentials. In fact, if you send a patient to a surgeon for abdominal pain, they will likely have an aneurysm. Surgeons like other doctors to do the differentialing for them-- they just want to fix the already diagnosed problem.
 
WhoisJohnGalt said:
No. Take surgeons for example. They're not into differentials. In fact, if you send a patient to a surgeon for abdominal pain, they will likely have an aneurysm. Surgeons like other doctors to do the differentialing for them-- they just want to fix the already diagnosed problem.
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Surgery is specifically why I said "most" fields of medicine. I imagine there are probably a few others, too. Again, I still feel that "most" probably fall into that category.
 
Good Lord, this neuro lab is a Beast!!!! It just goes on.... and on.... and on....
 
YMMV, but our neuro lab wasn't mandatory, even down in the dungeon. We had sign-in sheets, but I think that was for 2nd block and was, per O'Don, to see if people that performed poorly had been coming to scheduled lab sessions.

I remember spending much time with the brains in the mods. Since you guys likely don't have that option, down to Keith's lair it is...

And while there are likely other fields besides surg that are simply fixers, that seems pretty empty to me. I personally like the puzzle. But, a life-long friend warned me of this feeling, and said, "Whatever you do, pick anesthesiology. I don't give a **** how much you think you want to go out and save the world, or practice real medicine, for the love of Christ and everything holy, go gas."
 
We have a brain in our mod, but I don't mind spending time downstairs at all.

The more I study phys and neuro, the more I'm beginning to enjoy them because they seem much more relevant than biochem. 🙂
 
slackerqueen said:
We have a brain in our mod, but I don't mind spending time downstairs at all.

The more I study phys and neuro, the more I'm beginning to enjoy them because they seem much more relevant than biochem. 🙂
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Hmmm that's nice. I haven't been in the fake mods yet, but somehow, a little itty bitty room with a brain in it doesn't sound like much fun. I do need to go over last week's lab though since I was too ill too make it last Wednesday.

It's the first day that I've been healthy enough to study that I don't have notegroups I have to do. I'm having a hard time motivating myself to study anything. Fortunately, as slacker mentioned, our classes seem so much more clinically relevant this semester than last! I just wish neuro wasn't so confusing.
 
Mr. Freeze said:
"Whatever you do, pick anesthesiology. I don't give a **** how much you think you want to go out and save the world, or practice real medicine, for the love of Christ and everything holy, go gas."
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Truer words have ne'er been spoken.
 
slackerqueen said:
We have a brain in our mod, but I don't mind spending time downstairs at all.

The more I study phys and neuro, the more I'm beginning to enjoy them because they seem much more relevant than biochem. 🙂
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Not that Andre the giant-sized plastic brain, but real brains in tupperware. On my table no less. My wife came to the mod once, and was like, "WHAT is in those tubs?" with that look like I don't know if I want to know. "Brains." "NO WAY!" "Oh yeah. Not even whole ones. Just pieces." "Lemme see! No, wait, I dunno. Oh ****, THAT'S OUR TABLE!?!?"

I thought it was telling that a plastic surg resident was saying that he had considered quitting to go gas. At the time he'd still have finished quicker, as long as his res is. I told him he couldn't, because THEN who would I contract service for? But he was still in the depths of the intern year. He may be happier now.
 
I liked the TBL's, although I was a little confused by the neuro content for the phys TBL. Other than that confusion, it was interesting. It'll be even nicer next week when I'm much more caught up than I am right now.
 
Hey all,
I was accepted to OU back in October but I've just been kind of lurking back in the shadows on these boards ever since. In fact, I don't think I've ever posted anything, so here's to my first message board post. I think I've more or less decided that OU is where I want to go so greetings 🙂 From what I've gathered it seems like a pretty nice place to be.
 
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