University of Toledo

[xnfs93hy]

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I have been looking into this school. My cousins GF goes here, she is a sophomore. She loves it.

This is the only state school I have come across where most people go into the medical field. There is an on campus medical center (hospital) and an allopathic (MD) medical school.

Does anyone know anything else about this school? It seems pretty easy to get into.

It is 25,000 OOS. Is it worth it?

 

[tennisball80]

My cousins GF goes here

Why don't you ask your cousin or do a campus tour ?

 

[broken tibula]

I know a lot about it, actually. It's very easy to get into.

However, it's not much different than any other state uni, if not a little on the crappy side. If you go in on one side of the campus, you're in a really ritzy neighborhood, and when you come out on the other end, you're in the ghetto of Toledo. Bit of a shock...

 

[xnfs93hy]

I know a lot about it, actually. It's very easy to get into.

However, it's not much different than any other state uni, if not a little on the crappy side. If you go in on one side of the campus, you're in a really ritzy neighborhood, and when you come out on the other end, you're in the ghetto of Toledo. Bit of a shock...

I'm also looking into West Virginia U and Virginia Commonwealth U. Any comment on those for UG/Med school...?

 

[broken tibula]

No, I just know UoT really well. Sorry...

 

[xnfs93hy]

That's alright.

 

[Depakote]

I'm not sure, but I think you would be able to apply for in-state residency/tuition after your first year (as with most Ohio state schools).

You'd need to have your parents not claim you as a dependent.
Show proof of residency in Ohio (this might mean getting an apartment).
Register to Vote in Ohio.

You'd gain in-state ohio tuition and be an ohio applicant for med school, (not a bad deal, there are 7), but you'd lose your in state status for the NJ schools.


You might want to contact the school and see if this is possible for undergrad. I know that the Ohio state medical schools do this.

 

[gabeybaby]

I'm also looking into West Virginia U and Virginia Commonwealth U. Any comment on those for UG/Med school...?

i dont know about med school. but for UG, these two schools are really easy to get into. some of my friends applied there, and all got in.... lets just say they didnt have such an outstanding hs records.

VCU is really ghetto though. I've been down there once and there's a parking lot full of needles ... ppl are banned to go in there until it's cleaned up... and i also hear my friend's sister getting robbed down there.

What's special about WVU is that it has a forensic program, i was interested in forensics awhile back and did some research into this uni... they have an excellent program for that.

EDIT: also, vcu has a high acceptance rate for UG--- i think it's around 70-80%

 

[xnfs93hy]

i dont know about med school. but for UG, these two schools are really easy to get into. some of my friends applied there, and all got in.... lets just say they didnt have such an outstanding hs records.

VCU is really ghetto though. I've been down there once and there's a parking lot full of needles ... ppl are banned to go in there until it's cleaned up... and i also hear my friend's sister getting robbed down there.

What's special about WVU is that it has a forensic program, i was interested in forensics awhile back and did some research into this uni... they have an excellent program for that.

EDIT: also, vcu has a high acceptance rate for UG--- i think it's around 70-80%

VCU? Seriously? Hmm. I've actually heard really nice things about the school. Is it the school or just the area?

To Depakote:

Even if for some reason I do not go to UG in Ohio, can I still try and get residency status there?

 

[CScull]

Even if for some reason I do not go to UG in Ohio, can I still try and get residency status there?

Why on earth would you want to do that?

 

[broken tibula]

He wants his children to go to schools that are illegally funded. It's been my dream for the longest time, too.

 

[xnfs93hy]

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[xnfs93hy]

He wants his children to go to schools that are illegally funded. It's been my dream for the longest time, too.

To Tibula: What do you mean?

To Scull:Ohio accepts many OOS applicants (med school). And there are a handful of med schools there. In addition I also have family out there and will be spending holidays out there because many of my cousins go to college out there so it would make sense to rent an apartment. I am just wondering if this is possible.

 

[Depakote]

To Tibula: What do you mean?

To Scull:Ohio accepts many OOS applicants (med school). And there are a handful of med schools there. In addition I also have family out there and will be spending holidays out there because many of my cousins go to college out there so it would make sense to rent an apartment. I am just wondering if this is possible.

I don't know if that would work or not, but keep in mind if you take Ohio residency and don't go to school in Ohio, you're giving up residency somewhere else.

That would be a few years OOS tuition at a non-Ohio school.

 

[broken tibula]

To Tibula: What do you mean?

To Scull:Ohio accepts many OOS applicants (med school). And there are a handful of med schools there. In addition I also have family out there and will be spending holidays out there because many of my cousins go to college out there so it would make sense to rent an apartment. I am just wondering if this is possible.

I wasn't referring to colleges or med schools or anything, but their public schools. For nearly twenty years, the way Ohio grants funding to their public schools has been unconstitutional (and no, not in a good way). Schools are cheated out of millions of dollars every year.

 

[xnfs93hy]

I wouldn't be surprised. All my cousins who live out there went to private catholic schools. I thought you meant college/med school.

 

[xnfs93hy]

I don't know if that would work or not, but keep in mind if you take Ohio residency and don't go to school in Ohio, you're giving up residency somewhere else.

That would be a few years OOS tuition at a non-Ohio school.

Alright. Yeah, I don't have to worry about that right now.

 

[gabeybaby]

VCU? Seriously? Hmm. I've actually heard really nice things about the school. Is it the school or just the area?

It's the area. It's located in ghetto Richmond. VCU's strong points lie in its art & med programs. But yeah, I agree with tennis that you should do a tour or something before actually deciding.

 

[xnfs93hy]

It's the area. It's located in ghetto Richmond. VCU's strong points lie in its art & med programs. But yeah, I agree with tennis that you should do a tour or something before actually deciding.

Alright. Yeah, I'm def. gonna check it out this summer sometime.

 

[gabeybaby]

Alright. Yeah, I'm def. gonna check it out this summer sometime.

i was curious as to why you want to do your UG at these schools? I mean, personally, I don't think these are good schools for UG because at my school VCU is the last school that everyone settle for if they don't get into their uni... that or community college.

I would reccommend that you stay instate, just to save money. It's not worth it to go to these schools and pay huge OOS tuition.

Or are you doing this because you think it might increase your chance of getting into med school? because that's a really long way from now.

 

[xnfs93hy]

i was curious as to why you want to do your UG at these schools? I mean, personally, I don't think these are good schools for UG because at my school VCU is the last school that everyone settle for if they don't get into their uni... that or community college.

I would reccommend that you stay instate, just to save money. It's not worth it to go to these schools and pay huge OOS tuition.

Or are you doing this because you think it might increase your chance of getting into med school? because that's a really long way from now.

I want to go OOS. I'm not really trying to increase my chances for MS.

I didn't think VCU was that bad. Are there better schools that are easy to get into?

 

[gabeybaby]

I want to go OOS. I'm not really trying to increase my chances for MS.

I didn't think VCU was that bad. Are there better schools that are easy to get into?

There are thousands of schools that are easy to get into. But these schools will be in like Tier 3 or Tier 4, and I don't think it's worth paying a high out of state tuition fee if you can get the same education where you are living at.

If you can get in a Tier 1 school or Ivy League (which are not easy to get into), that's great. It may actually be worth your money. But again, your UG school doesn't matter when you apply to med school.

 

[xnfs93hy]

Well, I'm not staying in state, I hate it here. I want to go to a big research uni in another state.

 

[gabeybaby]

Well, I'm not staying in state, I hate it here. I want to go to a big research uni in another state.

Do you hate your hs or do you hate your state? I'm pretty sure there are great things in NJ that you're not open to yet.

And "a big research uni" is not easy to get into. It might even be more competitive if youre an out of state student.

If that's what you really want, you should search schools that favor out of state students. I know Rice does that--- there's a higher acceptance rate for OOS.

 

[xnfs93hy]

Do you hate your hs or do you hate your state? I'm pretty sure there are great things in NJ that you're not open to yet.

And "a big research uni" is not easy to get into. It might even be more competitive if youre an out of state student.

If that's what you really want, you should search schools that favor out of state students. I know Rice does that--- there's a higher acceptance rate for OOS.

Ok...not everyone has a 4.0 GPA, alright. Rice is one of the most difficult schools to get into.

 

[gabeybaby]

Ok...not everyone has a 4.0 GPA, alright. Rice is one of the most difficult schools to get into.

well
1) Rice was just a suggestion, don't take everything so literal.
2) maybe you should work harder becuse you seem to have such big goals.
2) gpa matters, but so does your essay & EC. Not everyone that got into rice has a 4.0

 

[xnfs93hy]

well
1) Rice was just a suggestion, don't take everything so literal.
2) maybe you should work harder becuse you seem to have such big goals.
2) gpa matters, but so does your essay & EC. Not everyone that got into rice has a 4.0

-Sorry.
-Yeah, I'm not even gonna answer that. I work hard all the time.
-I know, and yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone at Rice was at the top of their class.

Edit: WHOA! Rice is almost 40k a yr! And you are telling me it isn't worth it to go OOS for high tuition...

 

[gabeybaby]

Edit: WHOA! Rice is almost 40k a yr! And you are telling me it isn't worth it to go OOS for high tuition...

Well if you recall, i said it's not worth it if it's for the low tier schools. It depends on the person though. Personally, I would never go OOS, even for an Ivy League, if it's not my "dream school". I don't see the point.

Good luck to whatever you decide though. You're a junior right? It's good that you're thinking about college now. Do some touring during the summer. I didn't start until in my senior yr lol.

 

[Depakote]

-Sorry.
-Yeah, I'm not even gonna answer that. I work hard all the time.
-I know, and yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone at Rice was at the top of their class.

Edit: WHOA! Rice is almost 40k a yr! And you are telling me it isn't worth it to go OOS for high tuition...

Lots of private schools have scholarships (need and merit based) that can help with tuition. It's worth looking into.


Another interesting deal is that you can still apply to rice to find out if you'll get in or not. The worst thing that would happen is you don't get in. This is the same thing that would happen if you don't apply, strangely.


You guys are talking about entering a field where just about everything you do is going to be more difficult than the last thing you did. Shying away from challenges because you might fail now isn't going to do you any favors when you inevitably encounter failure later.

 

[coldkatanagirl]

Edit: WHOA! Rice is almost 40k a yr! And you are telling me it isn't worth it to go OOS for high tuition...

Have your read anything about their financial aid?

For incoming freshmen:

• Rice will continue its policy of need-blind admission and meeting 100 percent of demonstrated need.
• For families whose income is $80,000 or less, Rice will meet 100 percent of need eligibility without loans. That means these students' financial aid packages will be covered by scholarships, grants, work study and other aid.
• For those whose income is above $80,000 and who are need eligible, Rice will cap the amount of loans in financial aid packages at $10,000 for the four undergraduate years (as long as they remain eligible for need-based aid).
• Rice will continue to offer merit-based aid to the top 30 percent of the enrolling freshman class.

http://financialaid.rice.edu/

 

[xnfs93hy]

Have your read anything about their financial aid?

For incoming freshmen:

• Rice will continue its policy of need-blind admission and meeting 100 percent of demonstrated need.
• For families whose income is $80,000 or less, Rice will meet 100 percent of need eligibility without loans. That means these students’ financial aid packages will be covered by scholarships, grants, work study and other aid.
• For those whose income is above $80,000 and who are need eligible, Rice will cap the amount of loans in financial aid packages at $10,000 for the four undergraduate years (as long as they remain eligible for need-based aid).
• Rice will continue to offer merit-based aid to the top 30 percent of the enrolling freshman class.

http://financialaid.rice.edu/

...No, there is no way I can get in there.

 

[Maygyver]

This is the only state school I have come across where most people go into the medical field. There is an on campus medical center (hospital) and an allopathic (MD) medical school.

...what? Also, a lot of schools have an on campus medical center and school.

 

[Maygyver]

Well, I'm not staying in state, I hate it here. I want to go to a big research uni in another state.

I know in another thread you posted, you said you hate your school because people make fun of you, etc. Well, that isn't just your state, that's probably a part of how you act in school and the kids you go to school with. What makes you specifically hate your state?

If you are looking for a big research school why not something like Ohio State? I know you mentioned you had a low GPA so I don't know if it's feasible but it's a thought.

 

[xnfs93hy]

...what? Also, a lot of schools have an on campus medical center and school.

40 something percent go into the health care field. That number is probably inflated though, that is what I meant.

 

[xnfs93hy]

I know in another thread you posted, you said you hate your school because people make fun of you, etc. Well, that isn't just your state, that's probably a part of how you act in school and the kids you go to school with. What makes you specifically hate your state?

If you are looking for a big research school why not something like Ohio State? I know you mentioned you had a low GPA so I don't know if it's feasible but it's a thought.

-Eh, I don't think I can get into the Columbus campus, which is where I would want to go. However, I am probably just going to do a year at my CC and apply, and get accepted (hopefully) that fall to the schools I want to go to now. I know I can get into good schools like Louisville and Kentucky (two schools I want to go to). I will def. check out OSU though, doubt I will get in but I will apply. OSU is fantastic.

-I don't actually HATE my state, I just hate my school and I really do not like any of the schools (public K-12, and except for Rutgers, Princeton, and TCNJ, I really hate all the other uni's) here in NJ. That and it is waaaay to expensive to live here. I don't know, I just want to go OOS to the south/mid west and study out there, in a warmer area that is not polluted, overcrowded, and filled with people who drive 100 MPH.

-Oh, and some of the schools here in NJ would add up to be about the same (obviously a decent bit cheaper) as a OOS state uni like UK or UofL, that is including tuition, OOS charge, room and board.

 

[Maygyver]

-Eh, I don't think I can get into the Columbus campus, which is where I would want to go. However, I am probably just going to do a year at my CC and apply, and get accepted (hopefully) that fall to the schools I want to go to now. I know I can get into good schools like Louisville and Kentucky (two schools I want to go to). I will def. check out OSU though, doubt I will get in but I will apply. OSU is fantastic.

-I don't actually HATE my state, I just hate my school and I really do not like any of the schools (public K-12, and except for Rutgers, Princeton, and TCNJ, I really hate all the other uni's) here in NJ. That and it is waaaay to expensive to live here. I don't know, I just want to go OOS to the south/mid west and study out there, in a warmer area that is not polluted, overcrowded, and filled with people who drive 100 MPH.

-Oh, and some of the schools here in NJ would add up to be about the same (obviously a decent bit cheaper) as a OOS state uni like UK or UofL, that is including tuition, OOS charge, room and board.

I've heard from someone that went to Louisville that it wasn't very good. Not sure about UK; but I do know this person said that she didn't think any of the schools in Kentucky were good.

And uh, the midwest isn't "warmer." We just got through a 3 week period where it didn't get above freezing. If you want warmer...go South, not West. We aren't all cowboys riding around in the sun in the Midwest. I also know/see lots of people that drive 100mph lol. Since you are so concerned with money, I am not sure why you are looking out of state.

 

[schrizto]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but UToledo has a BS/MD program:

http://bioe.eng.utoledo.edu/undergraduate/programs/bsmd.html

 

[xnfs93hy]

I've heard from someone that went to Louisville that it wasn't very good. Not sure about UK; but I do know this person said that she didn't think any of the schools in Kentucky were good.

And uh, the midwest isn't "warmer." We just got through a 3 week period where it didn't get above freezing. If you want warmer...go South, not West. We aren't all cowboys riding around in the sun in the Midwest. I also know/see lots of people that drive 100mph lol. Since you are so concerned with money, I am not sure why you are looking out of state.

I have three cousins who go to UofL and they love it; one is in med school.

UK I have visited, it is fantastic. Some schools in KY are better than others obviously. I only have one cousin who goes there. UK is better than UofL, IMO.

I probably should have been more specific with the term "warmer". Yes, I am well aware that it is not that warm down there, but that is right now. In the spring and summer months, and in early fall it is generally warmer down there. A bit less humid, etc. Obviously nothing like Florida or Southern California, and the west/south-western states.

Lol. Yeah, well, we have some people who are pretty bad at driving around here. I can't tell you how many times I have almost been sideswiped.

I'm not concerned about money, I don't know why you would that. I just don't want to go to a school that is 40-50k a year. We're not rich. 40k a year for UNDERGRAD is beyond idiotic..it is a total waste. I would only pay that if I were going to any ivy, personally, just because of the name. Ivies still aren't worth the money though.

 

[Maygyver]

I'm not concerned about money, I don't know why you would that.

Hmm...I wonder why....

 

[MilkmanAl]

I would only pay that if I were going to any ivy, personally, just because of the name. Ivies still aren't worth the money though.

😕

 

[Maygyver]

I think going to an Ivy for undergrad is almost useless if you have a good state uni. Heck, most of undergrad is GECs which I would hate to waste funds on by going to an Ivy League school for English 101, etc. I am saving my money for Ivy League grad/professional school so I can get taught by the best. Also, Ivy League schools aren't always the best.

 

[xnfs93hy]

😕

I meant that if I was going to spend $40-50k, I would only spend it on an ivy because Ivies open doors. But, again, so does any other school if you do well, which makes ivies pretty useless unless you are going into a field where employers only hire from those schools (IB, BigLaw, etc.).

 

[xnfs93hy]

I think going to an Ivy for undergrad is almost useless if you have a good state uni. Heck, most of undergrad is GECs which I would hate to waste funds on by going to an Ivy League school for English 101, etc. I am saving my money for Ivy League grad/professional school so I can get taught by the best. Also, Ivy League schools aren't always the best.

I know, refer to the post above, which corrects the one further above.

It is pointless to go to an Ivy unless you are going into a field where your employers recruit exclusively from those schools.

 

[Maygyver]

I meant that if I was going to spend $40-50k, I would only spend it on an ivy because Ivies open doors. But, again, so does any other school if you do well, which makes ivies pretty useless unless you are going into a field where employers only hire from those schools (IB, BigLaw, etc.).

No, going to schools at the very top of the field gets employers' attention. For example, MIT isn't Ivy League...but I'm pretty sure they get better attention that some of the less difficult ivies.

 

[MilkmanAl]

I understood what you meant, but you're essentially negating your own point. Whatever.

Anyway, any big state school is going to be just fine. There aren't many schools that favor their undergrads where admission to whatever health (or law...?) program you decide you want to pursue is concerned. Like everyone else has said, do your own research on schools you think you might like to attend to see if they fit the criteria you're looking for. Remember that school name is a fairly negligible factor in med school admission, so pick somewhere that offers what you like.

 

[xnfs93hy]

No, going to schools at the very top of the field gets employers' attention. For example, MIT isn't Ivy League...but I'm pretty sure they get better attention that some of the less difficult ivies.

That is also true.

 

[gabeybaby]

I meant that if I was going to spend $40-50k, I would only spend it on an ivy because Ivies open doors. But, again, so does any other school if you do well, which makes ivies pretty useless unless you are going into a field where employers only hire from those schools (IB, BigLaw, etc.).

eh some schools open more doors than others. but if you graduate from an ivy with a low gpa... that pretty much shuts you down too. is going into a school in nj really more expensive than going out of state? (i highly doubt that) also, i agree with mayg, it's better to go to a well-known school for your graduate degree (although med school practically teaches the same thing....so it really doesn't matter). i read that 96% of students from william & mary (williamsburg, va) went on to grad school; majority went into law. maybe you want to add that to your list? hahha.

I'm not concerned about money, I don't know why you would that.

good one

 

[xnfs93hy]

eh some schools open more doors than others. but if you graduate from an ivy with a low gpa... that pretty much shuts you down too. is going into a school in nj really more expensive than going out of state? (i highly doubt that) also, i agree with mayg, it's better to go to a well-known school for your graduate degree (although med school practically teaches the same thing....so it really doesn't matter). i read that 96% of students from william & mary (williamsburg, va) went on to grad school; majority went into law. maybe you want to add that to your list? hahha.


good one

I love it how people assume that. If you graduate an ivy with a HIGH GPA, I guarantee that will open doors.

I never said that. Without some form of financial aid, some OOS will cost just as much as a NJ school.

It is.

I was being serious.

 

[Maygyver]

Another possibility if you are thinking Ohio is UC. I know a few people that go there and enjoy it. I'm not sure of the tuition though. But honestly, I don't think I would pay 25k for Toledo.

 

[xnfs93hy]

Another possibility if you are thinking Ohio is UC. I know a few people that go there and enjoy it. I'm not sure of the tuition though. But honestly, I don't think I would pay 25k for Toledo.

If I decide to go to a CC first, def. OSU. I hear good things about UC as a school but I have heard horror stories about the surrounding area.