Uop:waay too expensive!!!!

[areucool1234]

so i was lookin around on the predents.com website and it said that UOP costs for 4 years is $207,113.....DAMN THATS A LOT OF MONEY...ucla costs like $109,18...and then UOP tries to act like, "oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

WHY IS UOP SO EXPENSIVE and WHY DO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE WHEN UCLA IS SOO MUCH CHEAPER??





P.S (apparently for 1 year on UOP website it is $72,896...multiply this by 3 and you get $218K...lol wow...)

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[DDMess]

UoP is still a great school and not everybody can get into UCLA because they don't live in California.

 

[areucool1234]

but if u are in CA then what the heck is the point...I dont get it!

 

[thethethe]

"oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

If you enter the market 1 year early and can make over 100k your first year, then it is a bargain. if you specialize, youll be making 300k+ that extra year.

not everybody who got into uop gets into ucla.

 

[WilsonJing]

I go to USC. 100,100 a year, and yaaaaaay for 4 years. Luckily I have a suga mama.

 

[thethethe]

I go to USC. 100,100 a year, and yaaaaaay for 4 years. Luckily I have a suga mama.

that's cool, what if she leaves you?

 

[DrReo]

so i was lookin around on the predents.com website and it said that UOP costs for 4 years is $207,113.....DAMN THATS A LOT OF MONEY...ucla costs like $109,18...and then UOP tries to act like, "oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

WHY IS UOP SO EXPENSIVE and WHY DO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE WHEN UCLA IS SOO MUCH CHEAPER??





P.S (apparently for 1 year on UOP website it is $72,896...multiply this by 3 and you get $218K...lol wow...)

At UOP, you get to make the bacon one year quicker.

 

[areucool1234]

ooh...1 year earlier...who says you even get a job after dental school?? oh yea..only if you do GP...if you want to specialize you get to accumulate more debt....so i guess if people want to do only GP then go to UoP...but if you want a good OVERALL lifestyle with something like ortho then DONT GO to UOP

 

[bigstix808]

ooh...1 year earlier...who says you even get a job after dental school?? oh yea..only if you do GP...if you want to specialize you get to accumulate more debt....so i guess if people want to do only GP then go to UoP...but if you want a good OVERALL lifestyle with something like ortho then DONT GO to UOP

you seem to have a good amout of beef with UofP (bust out the grill 😎). did you get rejected or something? relax bud, if you find it too exp then just don't apply...problem solved 🙂

 

[Persevere13]

I'll show you expensive:
http://www.nyu.edu/dental/financialservices/tuitionfeesexpensesdds.html

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm 93k a year for 4 years.

 

[armorshell]

How about you get your figures right? Total cost of attendance for 4 years of in-state at UCLA including loan service: $306,796

Source: http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/admissions/popup.asp?id=353

 

[areucool1234]

well um buddy i got my facts from the predent website so get mad at them not me...either way UOP is gonna be more expensive (i guess you go there which is why you are pissed)...and um I found a different fee: that came out much cheaper than yours: $112K (WHICH IS CHEAP!!) check the link: http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/fees/dentistryfees08-09.pdf
get ur facts straight🙂

How about you get your figures right? Total cost of attendance for 4 years of in-state at UCLA including loan service: $306,796

Source: http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/admissions/popup.asp?id=353

 

[sakicop]

here is your problem you two. one of you is looking at just the cost of tuition and the other is looking at the total cost of everything that will go into the final loan amount.

 

[dentstd]

here is your problem you two. one of you is looking at just the cost of tuition and the other is looking at the total cost of everything that will go into the final loan amount.

Yup. No one ever really considers the same set of numbers.

UCLA total cost, including living = 262k. Add 12.2k ONCE if you're out-of-state, since you become instate after the first year. Armorshell likes to compute interest, but I'll ignore that for now.

UoP "tuition" is 72.8K per year, and fees are 18.5K. They never specified that the 72.8K excluded living, but it may be an error, since 72.8K is too high a tuition. But then again, it may not be an error. I really don't know.

 

[lphiewok]

i guess UoP might be extremely expensive, but op is extremely annoying...

also some people will take military scholarship which will pay for all of their tuition no matter which school you go to so it wouldn't really matter.

and as others have mentioned, people will go to UoP instead of UCLA bc some could not get into UCLA or others just liked the school. either way, we are all mature enough to make our own decisions so we don't need someone like you to keep remind us how expensive some dental school education could be.

 

[Streetwolf]

ooh...1 year earlier...who says you even get a job after dental school?? oh yea..only if you do GP...if you want to specialize you get to accumulate more debt....so i guess if people want to do only GP then go to UoP...but if you want a good OVERALL lifestyle with something like ortho then DONT GO to UOP

Why only if you do GP? You realize that you could just as easily specialize out of UCLA and go an extra 2 or 3 years. Of course if you had graduated UOP you'd be done specializing a year earlier.

Also if you aren't necessarily going to get a job after d-school then this applies to both schools you went to. So you could go to UOP and land a job after a year or go to UCLA and land a job after a year. Again, you'd be working a year earlier by going to UOP.

GJ OP.

 

[areucool1234]

do the fees at UOP of 18.5K have to be paid each year?

Yup. No one ever really considers the same set of numbers.

UCLA total cost, including living = 262k. Add 12.2k ONCE if you're out-of-state, since you become instate after the first year. Armorshell likes to compute interest, but I'll ignore that for now.

UoP "tuition" is 72.8K per year, and fees are 18.5K. They never specified that the 72.8K excluded living, but it may be an error, since 72.8K is too high a tuition. But then again, it may not be an error. I really don't know.

 

[bennijai]

Yea private dental schools are expensive but my take on it is that you'll pay it off when you become a dentist. Now if you end up dropping out thats a different story.

 

[206127]

so i was lookin around on the predents.com website and it said that UOP costs for 4 years is $207,113.....DAMN THATS A LOT OF MONEY...ucla costs like $109,18...and then UOP tries to act like, "oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

WHY IS UOP SO EXPENSIVE and WHY DO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE WHEN UCLA IS SOO MUCH CHEAPER??





P.S (apparently for 1 year on UOP website it is $72,896...multiply this by 3 and you get $218K...lol wow...)

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Im guessing you havent gone through the application cycle... There are such few seats for dental school that many people are just happy to get in somewhere, think about it 80 seats or so per school... only a very small percentage of people who apply will get the opportunity to attend even one of the California schools...

Would you reapply if you only got into UOP?? 🙄

 

[MALOKINMARTIN]

lolz... $320 w/o interest at BU. Dental school is expensive. get over it.

 

[playa2652]

The OP most likely doesn't know why it's so difficult to get into dental school. The fact that he mentioned specializing in ortho right away means that he assumes he is going to get into one of the public dental schools, and that if he gets in, he will be top of his class, etc. Look, first off, there are about 1500-2000 applicants each year who compete to get into UCSF and UCLA. There are 80 seats for UCSF and 88 for UCLA, which means you only have about 15% chance of getting into one of these dental schools. That's not very high buddy...unless you are a highly qualified applicant with a HIGH GPA, HIGH DAT SCORES, or did something really amazing with regards to dentistry, you don't stand a chance at most of the California dental schools. It seems like you just going to apply to the UCs because they are cheaper...well guess what your selling yourself short because you forgot to apply elsewhere for school such as private in-state and out-of-state schools

 

[somethinpositiv]

UoP could double its tuition and still have a full class next year. It's expensive because it can be. It's the same with any dental school. They provide a service, and we really have no choice but to pay for the service in order to achieve our goals. It is what it is, no sense getting upset about it.

 

[peerless218]

UoP could double its tuition and still have a full class next year. It's expensive because it can be. It's the same with any dental school. They provide a service, and we really have no choice but to pay for the service in order to achieve our goals. It is what it is, no sense getting upset about it.

I can care less how much UOP cost, it's my dream dream school and I'll go no matter what. Well that's if I get in this cycle coming up.

 

[eternalxdemon]

so i was lookin around on the predents.com website and it said that UOP costs for 4 years is $207,113.....DAMN THATS A LOT OF MONEY...ucla costs like $109,18...and then UOP tries to act like, "oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

WHY IS UOP SO EXPENSIVE and WHY DO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE WHEN UCLA IS SOO MUCH CHEAPER??





P.S (apparently for 1 year on UOP website it is $72,896...multiply this by 3 and you get $218K...lol wow...)

but if u are in CA then what the heck is the point...I dont get it!

why? maybe cuz it's the only school you got in to...

ooh...1 year earlier...who says you even get a job after dental school?? oh yea..only if you do GP...if you want to specialize you get to accumulate more debt....so i guess if people want to do only GP then go to UoP...but if you want a good OVERALL lifestyle with something like ortho then DONT GO to UOP

if you do'nt find a job then maybe u won't find a job once u get out of the uc schools either... at my interview at uop my interviewer told me that ALL graduates of uop schools have the HIGHEST rate of loan payment... meaning the graduates end up making enough money by the time they graduate to pay off their loans in a timely manner... n when u think about the cost of tuition.... hmmm a 350K loan paid off in 30 years... 2K+ payments a month... n able to pay it all off... dude... so the avg slaray of a uop graduate per year would be pretty high... so seriously... why not go to uop?

Yea private dental schools are expensive but my take on it is that you'll pay it off when you become a dentist. Now if you end up dropping out thats a different story.

funny thing... when i graduated this past saturday... all my family members were telling me that i should try my best to finish dental school n not drop out...

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Im guessing you havent gone through the application cycle... There are such few seats for dental school that many people are just happy to get in somewhere, think about it 80 seats or so per school... only a very small percentage of people who apply will get the opportunity to attend even one of the California schools...

Would you reapply if you only got into UOP?? 🙄

As for cali schools... cali schools are hard to get into period... so go were ur accepted... -_-;; I would NEVER reapply if i only got in to uop... 😎

The OP most likely doesn't know why it's so difficult to get into dental school. The fact that he mentioned specializing in ortho right away means that he assumes he is going to get into one of the public dental schools, and that if he gets in, he will be top of his class, etc. Look, first off, there are about 1500-2000 applicants each year who compete to get into UCSF and UCLA. There are 80 seats for UCSF and 88 for UCLA, which means you only have about 15% chance of getting into one of these dental schools. That's not very high buddy...unless you are a highly qualified applicant with a HIGH GPA, HIGH DAT SCORES, or did something really amazing with regards to dentistry, you don't stand a chance at most of the California dental schools. It seems like you just going to apply to the UCs because they are cheaper...well guess what your selling yourself short because you forgot to apply elsewhere for school such as private in-state and out-of-state schools

The op sounds like an ignoramus... >.< especially when he's putting down uop just cuz of the cost.... dude... wen dental school is ur dream... the cost doesn't matter dear... -_-;;

 

[dentstd]

Don't be naive. Cost always matters, and when cost puts you 300K or more in debt, it really, really matters. People who go to the most expensive schools in the country usually either didn't get into a cheaper school and have no choice, or they really, really, really love that school and are willing to pay any price.

Private schools that are disproportionately more expensive than its peers may be suffering from mismanagement. Regarding UoP, every one of their schools appear to be quite expensive. Not just dentistry.

 

[playa2652]

I agree that cost is a big factor...but since the OP automatically stated that UoP isn't a dental school worth going to because he assumes that UoP only generates GPs, it makes him an ignoramus for making a statement like that. Since he mentioned only the UC's as possible options for dental school, he doesn't seem to understand that by applying to those two schools in CA is going to hurt him in the end. I know several people who graduated near the top of their class at UoP and they are going to UoP and other schools for specialization. I also think that it's one of the best clinical dental institutions in the US. I just want to let the OP know that before he/she applies to dental school, they shouldn't base everything about the school because of cost, but rather the education, the environment, and location of the school. UoP is located in Pacific Heights, which is one of the nicest areas in SF and there's lots to do around there. Since I did research there during my undergrad tenure, I got to see my friends interact with their professors and they loved the attention and helpfulness from them. I got into both UCSF and UoP, but my reason for choosing UCSF instead wasn't due to cost, but a change in environment and new beginnings. I also preferred having interaction with other disciplines, like Nursing, Pharmacy, and Medicine; it was also close to home.

Also, to the OP, if you really want to specialize in ortho, you have to put in the sweat and tears to get in. Btw, this goes for any dental school you get into, even the UCs. I strongly think you should rethink about applying to UoP...I know cost might be an issue for you, but at least visit the dental school first if you can, before you make an assumption again.

 

[areucool1234]

how much is UOP dental school compared to the average MEDICAL school?

 

[Andrew324]

how much is UOP dental school compared to the average MEDICAL school?

In General Medical school is less expensive than dental school

 

[areucool1234]

damn..why is that?

 

[Oracle DMD]

damn..why is that?

a Rx pad +/or osteo maniuplation table is cheaper than a sim unit with drills, materials, wet labs, typodonts, etc. etc.

 

[gryffindor]

a Rx pad +/or osteo maniuplation table is cheaper than a sim unit with drills, materials, wet labs, typodonts, etc. etc.

Also 3rd and 4th years of med school are done in a hospital and the cost of education is absorbed by the hospital hosting the student. This is in contrast to the 3rd and 4th years of dental school where you have one building running 80 mini-private practices to provide the students their educations.

 

[a runner]

Come on guys, it's not that hard to find the right numbers... UoP total cost of attendance according to their website for the 3 years is $344,512. It's correct that the first loan period is ~$74k just for tuition, fees, and supplies, not including cost of living. By the way, UoP still charges 4 years worth of tuition (4 loan periods), even though it is three years long.

But it doesn't matter how much dental school costs, really. Haven't you guys heard of IBR yet? As long as you only use federal loans and don't mind paying up to 15% of your income for 25 years, if you come out with $500,000 total debt, let's say your monthly income is $12k, married, 2 kids, your monthly loan payment is only ~$1400, leaving you with over $10k before taxes. It doesn't matter what the tuition is anymore, you'll be fine.

 

[armorshell]

Come on guys, it's not that hard to find the right numbers... UoP total cost of attendance according to their website for the 3 years is $344,512. It's correct that the first loan period is ~$74k just for tuition, fees, and supplies, not including cost of living. By the way, UoP still charges 4 years worth of tuition (4 loan periods), even though it is three years long.

But it doesn't matter how much dental school costs, really. Haven't you guys heard of IBR yet? As long as you only use federal loans and don't mind paying up to 15% of your income for 25 years, if you come out with $500,000 total debt, let's say your monthly income is $12k, married, 2 kids, your monthly loan payment is only ~$1400, leaving you with over $10k before taxes. It doesn't matter what the tuition is anymore, you'll be fine.

You can get everything paid off in 10 years as well if you're working for a non-profit or public institution (public schools, military). This is amazing for anyone who wants to go into academics or research, because the repayments are income based (low) and you'll be fully repaid in 10 years.

Way to finally swing something our way federal government.

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

Come on guys, it's not that hard to find the right numbers... UoP total cost of attendance according to their website for the 3 years is $344,512. It's correct that the first loan period is ~$74k just for tuition, fees, and supplies, not including cost of living. By the way, UoP still charges 4 years worth of tuition (4 loan periods), even though it is three years long.

But it doesn't matter how much dental school costs, really. Haven't you guys heard of IBR yet? As long as you only use federal loans and don't mind paying up to 15% of your income for 25 years, if you come out with $500,000 total debt, let's say your monthly income is $12k, married, 2 kids, your monthly loan payment is only ~$1400, leaving you with over $10k before taxes. It doesn't matter what the tuition is anymore, you'll be fine.

I don't think there will be a lot of dentists wanting to do public service jobs that pay very little to save a $100,000 for 10 or 25 years when that 100k can be made in a year in private practice /w experience.

 

[nze82]

so i was lookin around on the predents.com website and it said that UOP costs for 4 years is $207,113.....DAMN THATS A LOT OF MONEY...ucla costs like $109,18...and then UOP tries to act like, "oh well its one year shorter"..ya ok 1 year shorter at a cost of $100k isnt really a bargain...thats almost double...DAMN....

WHY IS UOP SO EXPENSIVE and WHY DO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE WHEN UCLA IS SOO MUCH CHEAPER??





P.S (apparently for 1 year on UOP website it is $72,896...multiply this by 3 and you get $218K...lol wow...)

If you think UoP is expensive, try USC.
And why do people go to UoP instead of UCLA?
-The 3 year program sounds appealing to many people, and not everyone has financial concerns.
-UoP tends to focus more on clinical work, while UCLA is more of a research school. So, it really comes down to what you're more interested in.
-Getting into UCLA is not an easy task!!

P.S. When you add the cost of living expenses in LA (specially near UCLA), going to UCLA won't be much cheaper than going to UoP.

 

[a runner]

You can get everything paid off in 10 years as well if you're working for a non-profit or public institution (public schools, military). This is amazing for anyone who wants to go into academics or research, because the repayments are income based (low) and you'll be fully repaid in 10 years.

Way to finally swing something our way federal government.

Great point. This is especially nice if you want to help people... now you get the added benefit of still enjoying a good living by not having to worry about excessive student loans. Private practice isn't for everyone either, some people have a passion to serve poor and underserved populations without worrying about running a business.

 

[a runner]

I don't think there will be a lot of dentists wanting to do public service jobs that pay very little to save a $100,000 for 10 or 25 years when that 100k can be made in a year in private practice /w experience.

Well, the 10 years is for gov't and nonprofit jobs, etc. The 25 is ANY job, including private practice. So you can run your own practice for the 25 years, paying 15% of your income at most, and then if there is any left it is forgiven.

True, if you only come out with $300k or less in federal loans, the 25 year loan forgiveness might not benefit you that much if you if you make enough. But for those of us that are looking at the $400-600k range, it is nice to not have to worry about being overburdened by loan payments after graduation.

Anyway, my point is, if you like a school such as UoP, you don't really have to be limited by high tuition anymore.