UPENN rejection letter

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Kill it! Kill it with fire!

Seriously though, burn the letter and move on. The cycle's not over yet and you've got other prospects; especially with those amazing DAT scores.
 
Cyber hug. I am sure you will definitely get acceptance with your scores. Years from now non of this dental school stuff will even matter when you're a dentist.
 
Were any other areas of your app lacking? Shadowing? ECs? Your stats seem pretty damn solid man.
 
Were any other areas of your app lacking? Shadowing? ECs? Your stats seem pretty damn solid man.

TA for 3 upper science, 200+hr shadow, 3 research (1in school, 1 volunteer, 1 paid), paid tutor

well the reason why I knew it was expected because I called Upenn when they told me I was missing a letter and I said its impossible coz its there and the lady said she even checked online (obviously did not) and ultimately she noticed her mistake and just said that letter was too short and did not see it. (would've seen it if she looked online haha).

but yea..... didnt care for penn after that

oh someone just asked, my app was completed early august at Penn (2nd batch mailing). Well good luck to everyone who might still have a chance!
 
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I got a rejection from Harvard today, 24AA/24TS/23PAT 3.7s for GPA in 3.5 years with freaking honors. Also I'm almost mirroring your ECs: add 500 hrs volunteering, research publication and reduce research experiences and TA to 1 each. Unlike you though I can't say it's Harvard's loss (try as I might...lol). You can at least argue that Penn rejecting you is their loss, since your stats are way over their averages, but I can't even say that for my rejection.

Its cool though all we need is one acceptance right? Good luck with the rest of the schools...ya know the ones that'll give you their full consideration!
 
you all too good for these schools anyways 🙂 Too cool for school. No big deal, just choose from your remaining 10000X choices of acceptances later one.
 
I got a rejection from Harvard today, 24AA/24TS/23PAT 3.7s for GPA in 3.5 years with freaking honors. Also I'm almost mirroring your ECs: add 500 hrs volunteering, research publication and reduce research experiences and TA to 1 each. Unlike you though I can't say it's Harvard's loss (try as I might...lol). You can at least argue that Penn rejecting you is their loss, since your stats are way over their averages, but I can't even say that for my rejection.

Its cool though all we need is one acceptance right? Good luck with the rest of the schools...ya know the ones that'll give you their full consideration!


How did you find out? did Harvard send you e-mail on Sat?
 
Also received a rejection from UPenn. 3.7o/3.73 science 22 TS 20 AA. assumed my scores weren't high enough so not too surprised.
 
Also received a rejection from UPenn. 3.7o/3.73 science 22 TS 20 AA. assumed my scores weren't high enough so not too surprised.
Your numbers are definitely high enough. Actually, all the posters so far on this thread have numbers at the average, if not higher, than those of the schools they applied to. I'm really surprised to be honest but I guess you never really can tell how the admissions committee sees us.

Good luck you guys, I'm sure you'll get in somewhere great regardless.
 
Also received the rejection letter yesterday. 25 AA 26TS 24PAT 4.0. GPA. Did not expect this, but I guess sometimes it just happens. Good luck with other schools, you have great stats 🙂
 
Also received the rejection letter yesterday. 25 AA 26TS 24PAT 4.0. GPA. Did not expect this, but I guess sometimes it just happens. Good luck with other schools, you have great stats 🙂

Lol wtf...probably not enough EC or some redflags?
 
OP, with those stats, you will surely get a few interviews. I don't really care if people disagree with me, but UPenn is among my top schools of the LEAST bang for your buck. That ivy title won't make you a good clinician at all. Plenty of people go to Penn for the prestige, but come out as rather poor practitioners because they have a serious patient shortage issue right now. You will absolutely hate your life as an associate after you graduate because you simply will not be up to par in skills especially these past and future few years when there's a national scale of patient shortage amongst all most dental schools in the country.

And did I mention that the gap between Penn's tuition and NYU's tuition is closing up because Penn ups its tuition drastically every year or so? For $400,000, you won't get to do much of any prostho and endo work at all. Trust me, Penn's not worth it. I'd rather pay some more to go to NYU or Tufts whose patient pools are still rather robust against this decline of patient #s. You come out as efficient as someone from Penn with a 1 year GPR experience. No, I'm not exaggerating. This is info from a dentist friend of mine who hired several associates in the past few years.
 
Lol wtf...probably not enough EC or some redflags?
My EC is not that bad, around 500 hrs. I also have TA, tutor and lab experiences. Don't have research experience related to pre-dental but have one related to education. I am thinking maybe it is because I am non-traditional, and from abroad (I am US citizen, though). Oh, and maybe CC pre-requisites that I took when I came to the U.S.
 
I don't know about that gummy, you can get just as good education anywhere if you ask me 😛

Most of my comments are to help the OP feel better about being rejected. What I mentioned are some of the weaknesses that some recent graduates have told me about Penn. Contrarily, you also meet students who absolutely think it's a great school, I'm sure. There's 1 goal that every dental school in this country aims to do - and that is to make you pass boards successfully. In my very truthful opinion, all schools are at the very least adequate at preparing you for that. Not getting into XYZ school isn't the end of the world.
 
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Oh, and maybe CC pre-requisites that I took when I came to the U.S.

I think that is the reason. It's okay. With your DAT score, if you took your prerequistes at a 4-year college you would have been accepted. Their loss.
 
Why is Penn rejecting all these candidates with great GPA and DAT scores while giving interviews to others with much less stats? I know someone who got 21AA with 14 RC on DAT but somehow managed to get an interview from Penn... It just doesn't make sense.
 
Why is Penn rejecting all these candidates with great GPA and DAT scores while giving interviews to others with much less stats? I know someone who got 21AA with 14 RC on DAT but somehow managed to get an interview from Penn... It just doesn't make sense.

Did they do something spectacular? I know someone with an extremely low PAT with an interview to columbia. Also has less than satisfactory gpa.
 
I got the rejection letter too. Can't say I'm surprised considering it was my stretch school, but it certainly didn't feel good on top of my zero interviews. This just isn't my cycle. Oh well.
 
I got the rejection letter too. Can't say I'm surprised considering it was my stretch school, but it certainly didn't feel good on top of my zero interviews. This just isn't my cycle. Oh well.
wcombs, your stats are amazing!! they are probably just waiting on your Fall grades like you said.
 
why is penn rejecting all these candidates with great gpa and dat scores while giving interviews to others with much less stats? I know someone who got 21aa with 14 rc on dat but somehow managed to get an interview from penn... It just doesn't make sense.

+1
 
Did they do something spectacular? I know someone with an extremely low PAT with an interview to columbia. Also has less than satisfactory gpa.

I heard from my orthodontist who went to columbia that they don't put as much emphasis on PAT as they do on other sections. I think she didn't do all that hot on PAT either but did great on all the others + good gpa. maybe that's why? idk lol

good luck everyone!
 
+1. Was too Asian for them.
 
It really sucks to put that much effort into an application and come up short. Did all of you guys who got rejection letters at least have interviews or was this just flat out rejection?
 
My EC is not that bad, around 500 hrs. I also have TA, tutor and lab experiences. Don't have research experience related to pre-dental but have one related to education. I am thinking maybe it is because I am non-traditional, and from abroad (I am US citizen, though). Oh, and maybe CC pre-requisites that I took when I came to the U.S.

There you go, that's why.

I am amazed at the rejected stats being posted in this thread. But remember, the stats are all relative to the institutions that you attended previously.
 
It really sucks to put that much effort into an application and come up short. Did all of you guys who got rejection letters at least have interviews or was this just flat out rejection?

no interview for penn.
 
There you go, that's why.

I am amazed at the rejected stats being posted in this thread. But remember, the stats are all relative to the institutions that you attended previously.

I went to a state school (that has a dental school haha but have yet to recieve an invite from them)

been to 2 interview so far.....
 
Hmm, I wonder what they are looking for. I haven't heard much from them.
 
I haven't gotten a rej letter from upenn *yet* but when I called last week the lady who answered said it was b/c they haven't gotten to my app yet... does this make sense to anyone? I have been hearing back from other schools abt rejections so I know other schools have gone thru my app. 😕 :scared:

For reference: Applied in July (3rd batch), secondary complete in July, DAT taken 9/20.... thanks guys
 
They saved you a lot of money.... thank them now, dagone.... you are too smart to attend a $$$$ program. dagone....
 
I think they're looking for more than stats. I've seen lower stats get interviews.

Sorry to hear. You'll get in for sure though. I'll bet the cost of UPenn tuition on it.
 
I haven't gotten a rej letter from upenn *yet* but when I called last week the lady who answered said it was b/c they haven't gotten to my app yet... does this make sense to anyone? I have been hearing back from other schools abt rejections so I know other schools have gone thru my app. 😕 :scared:

For reference: Applied in July (3rd batch), secondary complete in July, DAT taken 9/20.... thanks guys

Admissions told us that they interview into March, so there is still a lot of time.
 
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Admissions told us that they interview into March, so there is still a lot of time.

Any applicants with Penn legacy amongst the rejected? Did you guys even have a chance to interview with them pre-dec
 
There you go, that's why.

I am amazed at the rejected stats being posted in this thread. But remember, the stats are all relative to the institutions that you attended previously.

But if a person's DAT score is high enough, why does it matter what institution/university he/she attended? I don't fully understand these dental schools logic.
 
But if a person's DAT score is high enough, why does it matter what institution/university he/she attended? I don't fully understand these dental schools logic.

Keep in mind that DAT scores are also relative...and varies in percentile depending on who is writing it that year. Also, think about all the hours one puts in to study within 4 years of university, and all the countless assignments, tests, exams. The DAT is one test, where you can study it in a month...
 
was also rejected today.
3.78 oGPA / 3.84 BCP / 3.75 sGPA
21 AA / 18 PAT

dunno what they're looking for, but after reading everyone's comments here, i'm kind of ok with it : )
 
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