Upward GPA trend hidden in the math

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When adcoms look for GPA trends in applications, do they just look at the box on the primary that breaks it down by high school, freshman, sophmore, junior, senior, and post-bac gpa, or do they actually look at the courses taken and the performance in each semester for the last X number of credit hours?

For instance, suppose someone went to college and did sufficiently bad that, 60 credits after the point that their senior GPA would start, they have a 2.7. For whatever reason, that person does not graduate, but 10 years later, they start taking classes again and, over two years/60 credit hours of full time attendance, they maintain a 4.0 and graduate with their first bachelor's degree at the end of that (so they don't have any post-bac gpa because it's their first degree).

So, what we'd see on the grid on the primary is:

Freshman: 2.4
Sophmore: 2.6
Junior: 2.7
Senior: 3.35 ([60 credits from the first time with 2.7 + 60 recent credits with 4.0]/120 = 3.35])
Post-bac: n/a

If the person had graduated the first time around and took those recent 60 credits after the awarding of their first undergraduate degree, they would have a post-bac gpa of 4.0 and the massive turnaround would be obvious at a cursory glance. However, since their first degree was awarded at the end of their most recent 60 credits, those get factored into their senior year GPA, which only rises to 3.35 because they had 60 senior level credits at a 2.7 from a long time ago. Now, this is obviously higher than the GPA for their other years, but not really high enough to impress anyone considering them for medical school admission on grounds of them being a reformed individual.

To notice the actual extent of the upward trend and turnaround, an adcom would actually have to go through their application manually and realize that they had a 4.0 over their last 60 hours/two years of full-time attendance, since it would not be immediately obvious just from looking at the grid. So, is this something most admissions committees would do automatically, or would they just look at the grid and conclude that the upward trend is not very impressive and reject without diving in deeper?

Since the huge turnaround that would ordinarily be evidence of sufficient reinvention is buried in the math, what should someone in this situation do? Should they point it out explicitly at some point in their application, or just hope that the adcom does a manual check before deciding to not consider the application further?
 
We look at the total, the science and the year by year.
Hours are also considered in the year by year.
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but you said ADCOMS look at the GPA by year, do they also look at it by semesters?
 
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but you said ADCOMS look at the GPA by year, do they also look at it by semesters?
Not in my experience.
Some schools have quarters, some have semesters. Everybody has years...
 
Year-by-year as in freshman/sophmore/junior/senior, or year-by-year as in actually calendar years 2014-15, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, etc. What AMCAS calls someone's senior year could actually span three calendar years of full-time attendance/90 credit hours if the person did not graduate and kept taking classes in a new field and accumulated 90 credits between the time their senior year gpa starts accumulating and the time they graduate.
 
Year-by-year as in freshman/sophmore/junior/senior, or year-by-year as in actually calendar years 2014-15, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, etc. What AMCAS calls someone's senior year could actually span three calendar years of full-time attendance/90 credit hours if the person did not graduate and kept taking classes in a new field and accumulated 90 credits between the time their senior year gpa starts accumulating and the time they graduate.
Year by year as in AMCAS years (at least until the final decision is being made).
 
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Year by year as in AMCAS years (at least until the final decision is being made).

Makes sense. However, if you had an application that had a senior year with 100 credit hours, would that prompt you take a look closer look to see what was going on (since most academic years consist of around 30 hours)?
 
Makes sense. However, if you had an application that had a senior year with 100 credit hours, would that prompt you take a look closer look to see what was going on (since most academic years consist of around 30 hours)?
It would differ by the timing of the evaluation; at screening, maybe not.
 
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When adcoms look for GPA trends in applications, do they just look at the box on the primary that breaks it down by high school, freshman, sophmore, junior, senior, and post-bac gpa, or do they actually look at the courses taken and the performance in each semester for the last X number of credit hours?

For instance, suppose someone went to college and did sufficiently bad that, 60 credits after the point that their senior GPA would start, they have a 2.7. For whatever reason, that person does not graduate, but 10 years later, they start taking classes again and, over two years/60 credit hours of full time attendance, they maintain a 4.0 and graduate with their first bachelor's degree at the end of that (so they don't have any post-bac gpa because it's their first degree).

So, what we'd see on the grid on the primary is:

Freshman: 2.4
Sophmore: 2.6
Junior: 2.7
Senior: 3.35 ([60 credits from the first time with 2.7 + 60 recent credits with 4.0]/120 = 3.35])
Post-bac: n/a

If the person had graduated the first time around and took those recent 60 credits after the awarding of their first undergraduate degree, they would have a post-bac gpa of 4.0 and the massive turnaround would be obvious at a cursory glance. However, since their first degree was awarded at the end of their most recent 60 credits, those get factored into their senior year GPA, which only rises to 3.35 because they had 60 senior level credits at a 2.7 from a long time ago. Now, this is obviously higher than the GPA for their other years, but not really high enough to impress anyone considering them for medical school admission on grounds of them being a reformed individual.

To notice the actual extent of the upward trend and turnaround, an adcom would actually have to go through their application manually and realize that they had a 4.0 over their last 60 hours/two years of full-time attendance, since it would not be immediately obvious just from looking at the grid. So, is this something most admissions committees would do automatically, or would they just look at the grid and conclude that the upward trend is not very impressive and reject without diving in deeper?

Since the huge turnaround that would ordinarily be evidence of sufficient reinvention is buried in the math, what should someone in this situation do? Should they point it out explicitly at some point in their application, or just hope that the adcom does a manual check before deciding to not consider the application further?
I look at the courses taken, and the year by year numbers.
 
How does adcom view upward trend if suppose I received 5C classes, 5B classes, and 3A classes in CC but transferred to a 4 year ug and received 3A classes there.
All classes listed are part of science courses counted for BCPM
 
How does adcom view upward trend if suppose I received 5C classes, 5B classes, and 3A classes in CC but transferred to a 4 year ug and received 3A classes there.
All classes listed are part of science courses counted for BCPM
The overall gpa would be too low for the possible beginning of a trend to matter much.
A year or two of A's and you have a trend.
 
So to clarify,
@gyngyn, you look at transcript and year-by-year calculations? I have some interrupted attendance that messes up my sophomore year credits and GPA calculation, but would an ADCOM look at my transcript to see UW trend in my grades?


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So to clarify,
@gyngyn, you look at transcript and year-by-year calculations? I have some interrupted attendance that messes up my sophomore year credits and GPA calculation, but would an ADCOM look at my transcript to see UW trend in my grades?


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I would need to see the year by year. Depending on the totals, there may be no need for trend.
 
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