Urogyn-accredited vs. non-accredited programs

[Sily]

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I'm applying for Urogyn fellowship for the 2009-2010 starting year. On the ABOG site, there is a list of accredited programs.

I've heard that there are some un-accredited programs that provide great training, although I'm not sure of any specifics. Does anyone have more information on this?

Thanks.

 

[pjs]

Go to www.augs.org for info. on accredited and non-accredited programs (click on education tab). You can definitely get good training at non-accredited programs but I don't think you can be board certified unless you graduate from an accredited fellowship.

 

[Sily]

Hi,

Thanks. I went on the site and found a good number of unaccredited schools. I wondered if anyone heard of particular ones that were known to provide good training and were stable.
Or, if anyone knows of any "red flag" programs-if you want to PM me instead of posting publicly that's fine.
It's just hard to find feedback on fellowships it seems.

 

[Global Disrobal]

There is no board certification for Urogynecology. I believe that they need 33 accredited programs before moving forward to applying for board certification as a sub-specialty.

Nonetheless, check out the unaccredited programs and be sure to ask why they did not go through the process! From what I saw at our program (WHC), it was an involved but rather quick process (took us a little over a year).

Best of luck!

 

[pjs]

Global -- do you have any info on what happens if you do a fellowship at a non-accredited program, once board certification begins? I had heard that people who had been practicing urogyn for years would be "grandfathered in" but there is some question about whether people who are currently doing fellowships at non-accredited programs may be able to be board certified. Any info. you have on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[pjs]

I have heard that the non-accredited program at Emory is good -- but I would definitely inquire about whether they are seeking board certification. I have also heard to stay away from all of the non-accredited programs that are popping up at a lot of the community hospitals in New Jersey.

 

[fuzzyerin]

The plan for when urogynecology opens as a board certification, as far as our program director has explained it, is that anyone can sit for the boards the first time, generalists who are doing urodynamics/urogyn type stuff to those that did formal fellowships. However, it's a one shot deal for those not in fellowship. So I don't think it's going to make a difference, especially until it becomes a board certificate, whether you are at accredited or non-accredited.

 

[UroGynFellow]

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[Truli]

be careful in choosing fellowship program, mostly are ot really honest during interviews. find somebody inside that you can trust who really knows the program. Most hospitals/program have 3-4 hospitals that they cover. Do nt be stuck on these programs