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Any recommendations on how to find research programs for people with no "home" urology department? I'm gaining interest in the field, and would like to find a research opportunity this summer (I am a first year DO Student).

It’s definitely tougher without a home program. If there is a nearby med school with a Uro department you could email them and say you’re interested in working on research for the summer, most places won’t turn down free help. I would do that earlier rather then later as you’ll need to get clearances to access the EMR. Either way you should do multiple away urology rotations and use those as an opportunity to get letters from Urology faculty and to do some small research projects.
 
Any recommendations on how to find research programs for people with no "home" urology department? I'm gaining interest in the field, and would like to find a research opportunity this summer (I am a first year DO Student).

It’s definitely tougher without a home program. If there is a nearby med school with a Uro department you could email them and say you’re interested in working on research for the summer, most places won’t turn down free help. I would do that earlier rather then later as you’ll need to get clearances to access the EMR. Either way you should do multiple away urology rotations and use those as an opportunity to get letters from Urology faculty and to do some small research projects.

So I was under the impression is very, very hard to match into a surgical subspecialty as a DO. Is there truth to this?
 
So I was under the impression is very, very hard to match into a surgical subspecialty as a DO. Is there truth to this?
Yes. It’s not easy. We did, however, have someone match Urology last year, so it’s possible.

I don’t know what will happen after the merger, though.
 
Yes. It’s not easy. We did, however, have someone match Urology last year, so it’s possible.

I don’t know what will happen after the merger, though.

Did they match into a DO only Uro residency? Also, how many people applied?

Yeah from the sound of it 2019 is going to be death and high water for y'all in competitive specialties. Basically the only change is that we can apply to your residencies, right?
 
Did you always know you wanted to be a urologist?

How did you prepare your first year as a M1
 
Did you always know you wanted to be a urologist?

How did you prepare your first year as a M1

Nope. Figured it out midway through third year. If you did know you want to as an M1, use the opportunity to get involved in research in the department, especially in the summer after M1. Otherwise it’s just a matter of doing well in classes and prepping for boards.
 
Did they match into a DO only Uro residency? Also, how many people applied?

Yeah from the sound of it 2019 is going to be death and high water for y'all in competitive specialties. Basically the only change is that we can apply to your residencies, right?

No one really knows what will happen. Some traditional DO programs may choose to continue taking mostly DOs, whole others may jump at the chance to add MDs to the program. Likewise some MD PDs will have a significant bias towards MDs, whole others at lower tier MD programs may view DOs as an opportunity to attract more accomplished applicants that would have gone to a more prestigious program if they were an MD. I’ve known personally a few Urology DOs, one at an MD program, one at a DO. It isn’t impossible for DOs to match, but the bar is generally going to be higher, and opportunities for research at your home department lower. With regards to the new rules, my thought is that it may help the best DO applicants as they can now apply to both the MD and DO programs and have a shot at both. The less elite DO applicants may struggle as they will now have more competition from MDs at traditionally DO spots. Once again all speculation though.
 
No one really knows what will happen. Some traditional DO programs may choose to continue taking mostly DOs, whole others may jump at the chance to add MDs to the program. Likewise some MD PDs will have a significant bias towards MDs, whole others at lower tier MD programs may view DOs as an opportunity to attract more accomplished applicants that would have gone to a more prestigious program if they were an MD. I’ve known personally a few Urology DOs, one at an MD program, one at a DO. It isn’t impossible for DOs to match, but the bar is generally going to be higher, and opportunities for research at your home department lower. With regards to the new rules, my thought is that it may help the best DO applicants as they can now apply to both the MD and DO programs and have a shot at both. The less elite DO applicants may struggle as they will now have more competition from MDs at traditionally DO spots. Once again all speculation though.

Makes sense.

What're the lowest stats you've heard of someone getting into ur with that wasn't somebody's brother/son/whatever? On Uromatch it leads you to believe the average matched STEP is 245 and unmatched is 240. Can't tell if thats accurate or not, because n=~50% of all applicants based on the spreadsheet they fill out/post.
 
Makes sense.

What're the lowest stats you've heard of someone getting into ur with that wasn't somebody's brother/son/whatever? On Uromatch it leads you to believe the average matched STEP is 245 and unmatched is 240. Can't tell if thats accurate or not, because n=~50% of all applicants based on the spreadsheet they fill out/post.

To be honest, I don’t really know, because once you’ve matched no one cares nor talks about things like their board scores, because they’re no longer relevant. While it is annoying that the urology match publishes such limited data, the nrmp data for ENT is probably a good proxy. And while that shows a median step 1 in the mid to high 240s, that means that half the matched applicants have step 1 below that.
 
To be honest, I don’t really know, because once you’ve matched no one cares nor talks about things like their board scores, because they’re no longer relevant. While it is annoying that the urology match publishes such limited data, the nrmp data for ENT is probably a good proxy. And while that shows a median step 1 in the mid to high 240s, that means that half the matched applicants have step 1 below that.

Yeah thats what I've been going off of so far. Just wish they posted the standard deviations haha.
 
What are starting/mid-career salaries like for Urologists?

What % of Urologists go into Private Practice/partners of practices?
 
I have heard that because Urology is such a small field, one can compensate for a low Step score by other means (connections, aways, research, etc) more so compared to other competitive fields. Have you found this to be true?
 
How's the job market for urology these days?
Reposting an earlier reply

The job market in Urology is one of the best in all of medicine. The population is aging so more of us are needed, and the number of Urologists is going down, as they sharply cut the number of spots in the 90s/2000s. Starting offers depends greatly on where you are looking. Average is probably around 350-400k with higher numbers in less desirable areas, lower numbers in the San Francisco's and NYCs of the world. A lot of PP groups or hospitals are desperate to hire someone and there are a lot of offers including signing bonuses, loan repayment, offering you a stipend during residency, etc. Especially as a general Urologist, you can really pick where you want to practice. The more specialized you get it does become trickier, like if you want to be an academic urologic oncologist you're limited to the jobs that are open at that given time. People still find good jobs, but it may not be a matter of picking where you want to be. However, some will do a fellowship and then do PP, which makes them even more desirable for a private group.

For example: It's not a perfect indicator, but if you look on MDsearch.com or other job sites, there are about 900 postings for Urology jobs. We only graduate about 270 people a year, so the math looks pretty darn good. Compare that to say Cardiology (450 jobs for about 500 grads/year), Radiology (315 posts for ~900 grads/year), or even more in demand fields like Derm (700 postings for ~400 grads). Obviously all the people in those other fields will likely find good jobs, and many of the best jobs are never posted on these sites, but it just goes to show that there is a lot of pent up demand for Urologists.
 
What are starting/mid-career salaries like for Urologists?

What % of Urologists go into Private Practice/partners of practices?

For mgma survey data see the following thread as of 2015 MGMA 2015 data

Based on anecdotes I’ve seen, it highly depends on what kind of job you’re looking at. Most PP and hospital employed jobs will start in the 350-450 range, though some PP may be lower if you are paid an artificially low salary as part of your buy in to partnership (not common in Uro as in other fields due to the overall level of demand). Mid career is probably closer to 500-550 if you have a good payer mix. People making the huge bucks (1m plus) are often using ancillary revenue streams like owning a surgery center, XRT machines, etc or doing sketchy **** like UroFlows and renal ultrasounds on every patient who walks into the office. Academics likely starts more in the 250-300 range then depends on how your payment structure works. Our mid career faculty probably are paid in the 400 range, more if they are very busy.
 
I have heard that because Urology is such a small field, one can compensate for a low Step score by other means (connections, aways, research, etc) more so compared to other competitive fields. Have you found this to be true?

Depends entirely on the program. Mine uses a step 1 cutoff, but it is a soft cutoff meaning all apps still get read and an exceptional app can still stick out despite a low step score. Others will use a strict cutoff. Others I’ve heard of use a cut off of step 1 or step 2 > x. Aways and Connections can certainly get your foot in the door, if you crush your away and everyone wants to work with you they may overlook a low step score, but once again will he program dependent.
 
Depends entirely on the program. Mine uses a step 1 cutoff, but it is a soft cutoff meaning all apps still get read and an exceptional app can still stick out despite a low step score. Others will use a strict cutoff. Others I’ve heard of use a cut off of step 1 or step 2 > x. Aways and Connections can certainly get your foot in the door, if you crush your away and everyone wants to work with you they may overlook a low step score, but once again will he program dependent.

Thanks for the reply. What is the soft Step 1 cutoff at your program??
 
What are the typical bread and butter cases that a Private practice Urologist would do??

What are your favorite type of operations/patient problems you deal with??
 
Thanks for answering!

How's the moonlighting opportunities as an attending?

Which schools/hospitals are considered the 'top residencies' to train at in urology?
 
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What are the typical bread and butter cases that a Private practice Urologist would do??

What are your favorite type of operations/patient problems you deal with??

Sorry for the slow replies, as mentioned being a Urology resident does get quite busy.

I'd categorize bread and butter Urology procedures as follows:

Very common (e.g. office procedures performed up to multiple times per clinic day): diagnostic cystourethroscopy (using a flexible scope through the urethra into the bladder to look for any issues e.g. tumors, strictures, etc.), bladder biopsies, prostate biopsies, vasectomies.

Common (e.g. frequently will have on a typical OR day):
1. surgery for BPH: which ranges from in-office procedures like placing self-tensioning prostatic urethral implants to hold the urethra open (urolift) to using RF current to ablate prostate tissue (transurethral needle ablation or Rezum), to cystoscopic surgeries done under general anesthesia, which includes the gold-standard of transurethral resection of the prostate as well as laser vaporization or eunucleation of the prostate. Less common nowadays but still present is open or robotic simple prostatectomy for very large glands.
There has been talk about this part of urology diminishing significantly in volume because of medical therapy for BPH, but that really hasn't been the case and for good reason. We use a scale called the IPSS (international prostate symptom score), for which > 20 is severe urinary symptoms. Combination medical therapy, meaning taking 2 pills daily for the rest of your life, lowers, IPSS by 6 points (compared to 3-4 for placebo). One of the office procedures I mentioned lowers IPSS 10-11 points. One of the surgical procedures (TURP or laser procedures) lowers IPSS by ~15 points. Overall the rate of BPH surgery per person is mostly stable (~900/100,000/year), but the elderly population is increasing so that means more cases.

2. surgery for kidney stones: Includes shock wave lithotripsy, ureteroscopy and laser lithotripsy, which means running a tiny scope up the ureter or into the kidney, lasering the stone into pieces or dust, and removing any fragments, or percutaneous nephrolithotomy, which means making a tract through the back to the kidney, then using larger scopes through that tract to grind up large kidney stones using pneumatic or ultrasonic lithotripters. This is also a growing field as kidney stone incidence has been rising over the years.
3. Endoscopic surgery for bladder tumors: This involves transurethrally resecting a bladder mass, which can range from a 1cm lesion that takes a few minutes to resect and cauterize or a large mass filling most of the bladder that takes multiple surgeries to resect
4. Hydrocelectomy (excision of bothersome fluid containing sac around the testicle)
5. Varicocelectomy (ligation of bothersome dilated veins coming from the testicle)
6. If your practice involves pediatrics then inguinal hernias, circumcisions, and orchiopexies (bringing down undescended testicles) are very common. Typically in cities or places with peds hospitals, pediatrics is done by fellowship trained pediatric urologists, but if you're not near a big children's hospital/center, then this often falls on the private practice urologists.
7. If your practice includes female urology then bladder botox injections (usually done in the office) or mid-urethral sling placement are quite common

Relatively common (will have a case every week or 2)
Radical prostatectomy, usually robotic
Radical or partial nephrectomy, usually laparoscopic (or robotic for partials) sometimes done with hand-assisted laparoscopy, which is laparoscopy in which there is a special port that lets you place one hand into the insufflated abdomen to assist with your dissection (youtube this if you haven't seen it, it's pretty cool)
Surgery for urethral strictures. This typically involved endoscopic cases like urethral dilation or internal urethrotomy with a cold knife or laser, but the gold standard is a urethroplasty, either via excising the diseased segment, or more commonly by opening it up and laying on a graft of mucosa from the cheek or tongue. This is often done by fellowship trained reconstructive urologists, but I and many other current residents do so many of these we feel more then comfortable incorporating them into our general practice. Some Urologists will harvest the graft themselves, while others will get ENT to do it, personally I feel comfortable doing it myself.

Somewhat uncommon (may have a case every few months unless you specialize in that area)
Robotic pyeloplasty, which means fixing an area of obstruction at the uretero-pelvic junction. Often this comes from a crossing blood vessel, in which case you excise the area of blockage and reconstruct it on the other side of the obstructing vessel.
Other infertility procedures like vasectomy reversals or testicular biopsies
Placement of prosthetic implants like inflatable penile prosthesis or artificial urinary sphincters
radical cystectomy for bladder cancer with creation of urinary diversion (either an ileal conduit, continent diversion, or neobladder made of intestine)

This will vary significantly based on your referral patterns and what you are good at/want to do with your practice. Some Urologists choose not to do major oncology cases like prostates or nephrectomies because they either don't feel comfortable doing them solo or don't want the headache/risk from bigger surgeries. There is a regionalization effect where more of the cystectomies are being done at major centers and fewer by community Urologists (for good reason), as there is a volume-outcome relationship. If you're in a decent size group though, you could still keep the cystectomies in house and have more then enough volume to be on the right side of the volume-outcome curve.
 
Thanks for answering!

How's the moonlighting opportunities as an attending?

Which schools/hospitals are considered the 'top residencies' to train at in urology?

"Moonlighting" in a traditional sense (e.g. covering shifts at a different hospital) is rarely done by attendings, as they could simply work more hours or see more patients in their primary practice and generate more income. Though there are a few hospitals a few hours away from us that are so desperate some of our faculty have picked up weekends there due to extremely good pay. As a private attending often ER call is compensated so you can offer to cover extra call nights. Likewise you could work out a deal with your practice to cover extra call in exchange for extra income.

If you are asking how can attendings earn extra income beyond their clinical practice, then there are a lot of options. These include investment/ownership of surgery centers, imaging/pathology centers, rad-onc equipment, work as a consultant for medical device companies, work as a legal expert, etc.

Top residencies is of course really controversial and depends on what you want to get out of your program. If you're a gung-ho academic and want to be a chairman as fast as possible, then places that have traditional big names like Hopkins, UCSF, Cleveland Clinic may be best. If you want to be the best technical surgeon/clinician, then places with a huge volume as the primary referral center for a region and good autonomy like UTSW, Pitt, Vanderbilt, and Emory are likely best. It really is about the right fit for you. The good thing about the number of residency spots being so tightly controlled in Urology is that while it is tough to get a spot, pretty much any program will train you to be a good surgeon. I did a lot of interviews and would have been happy to match at almost all of the programs I interviewed at from a training standpoint. I will say that having a VA is an amazing experience (though occasionally frustrating) and I would not want to train at a place that didn't have a VA or VA equivalent (e.g. county hospital) in terms of residents running the show, both in clinics and the OR.
 
That's the cutoff at my home program as well.. Do you see that number staying the same in the near future or do you think it will continue to rise?

No idea. My guess is it will continue to rise slowly as step1 average scores have risen.
 
What would you rank the surgical subspecialities (urology, ENT, ortho, plastics, general, etc) in terms of lifestyle for the average academic physician and then the average private practice physician?

I know you said previously that it's possible to work 8-5 in a private practice (with OR days starting earlier), but how often do urologists have this good of a lifestyle? Is it rare or pretty common to have this schedule?
 
What would you rank the surgical subspecialities (urology, ENT, ortho, plastics, general, etc) in terms of lifestyle for the average academic physician and then the average private practice physician?

I know you said previously that it's possible to work 8-5 in a private practice (with OR days starting earlier), but how often do urologists have this good of a lifestyle? Is it rare or pretty common to have this schedule?

Well almost no surgeon will have a daily 8-5 schedule. OR days will start closer to 630, and someone has to take call for your practice/hospital which means some nights/weekends working. Relative to gensurg/ortho/nsgy, Urology has fewer emergencies on call, but they do exist, including infected obstructing kidney stones, testicular torsion, paraphimosis, priapism, and the usual **** that can go wrong when you do big surgeries on people. Those exceptions aside, most PP attendings I've spoken with in Urology do have that kind of lifestyle.

Once you're in practice though, it is all about how your practice is set up. If the referrals are there, you can pack your clinic days full of 50 patients and end your day at 6 with a ton of charts left to do (and make more money/book more cases), or schedule at a more leisurely pace. If you do more big surgeries, it means more inpatients to round on in the hospital. It will also depend on the environment you practice in. If it is somewhat saturated and competitive, you may need to make yourself more available (e.g. cover more ER call/hospital consults, see new patients faster, etc.) to generate more referrals. If you're the only shop in town, that's not the case. Urology will generally have a better lifestyle then general surgery or Ortho, with fewer of our cases coming from ER coverage and requiring urgent intervention, but those are averages and it all depends. A hand surgeon who doesn't take much trauma call or a breast surgeon who doesn't cover general surgery call can have as good or better a lifestyle. For lifestyle average I'd say Urology/ENT/ophtho > plastics > Ortho=general surgery, but averages don't mean much in an individual case. As always I'd advise you to do what you're most interested in though. 5-7 years of residency and a whole career is a long time to put in for something you're not passionate about.
 
How much renal physiology do you think about as a urologist? Do you have to love the nephron?
 
What are your thoughts on high-risk prostate cancer and the explosion of prostatectomy in the management of it (rather than RT + ADT, the category 1 recommendation on NCCN), and are you familiar with any data supporting its use over the category 1 recommendation, given the extremely high likelihood of requiring eventual trimodality therapy?

Why do you feel that the AUA maintains that prostate cancer recurrence after prostatectomy requires PSA of 0.2 or higher, repeated, in the era of ultrasensitive PSA, with data suggesting that the lower the PSA at initiation of salvage, the higher the likelihood of success? What is (or will be) your personal PSA cut-off for referral for salvage therapy in your post-op prostate cancer patients?
 
In recent years, urology burnout has been increasing according to the Medscape reports. Any ideas why? Due to the decline in reimbursements in last few years?
 
How much renal physiology do you think about as a urologist? Do you have to love the nephron?

For your boards, a moderate amount, but more as it applies to Urologic diseases. Meaning you don’t need to know everything about GN, AIN, ATN, etc, but you do need to know the basics of what is reabsorbed where and how drugs effect that, (e.g why thiazides treat hyper calciuria but are less effective with high sodium) the RTAs and how they relate to stones, what happens to renal perfusion/filtration with acute and chronic ureteral obstruction, etc.

So it’s hard to hate the nephron, but in practice we spend very little time thinking about it. These are more knowledge factoids you study for boards.
 
What are your thoughts on high-risk prostate cancer and the explosion of prostatectomy in the management of it (rather than RT + ADT, the category 1 recommendation on NCCN), and are you familiar with any data supporting its use over the category 1 recommendation, given the extremely high likelihood of requiring eventual trimodality therapy?

Why do you feel that the AUA maintains that prostate cancer recurrence after prostatectomy requires PSA of 0.2 or higher, repeated, in the era of ultrasensitive PSA, with data suggesting that the lower the PSA at initiation of salvage, the higher the likelihood of success? What is (or will be) your personal PSA cut-off for referral for salvage therapy in your post-op prostate cancer patients?

This question is based on a false premise. Surgery and radiation are both recommendations for high risk prostate cancer. While there is no level 1 evidence to choose one over the other, there is actually some meta analysis data that surgery trends towards superior cancer control over xrt. Otherwise there are pros and cons to each approach.

Surgery has higher upfront complications, discomfort, ED, and Urinary incontinence, though in the long run ED = ED from radiation. The key benefit to xrt is avoiding the 5-10% risk of long term stress inconinence requiring pad use after surgery. Surgery is less expensive, has fewer irritaive voiding symptoms and urge incontinence or fecal symptoms then xrt, and doesn’t require ADT, which patients hate and increases cardiovascular and osteoporosis risks. It also doesn’t have the long term sequelae of radiation cystitis, urethral stricture, risk of secondary cancer, and fried pelvis tissue for future wound healing issues. Finally, and this is key, is that you have the option of salvage radiation after surgery biochemical recurrence, while very few centers will offer salvage surgery after xrt failure due to technical difficulty and high complication rates. In short if it was my Dad who had high risk disease and was a good surgical candidate, I’d advise him towards surgery.

The data shows that early salvage XRT after biochemical failure after surgery is superior to delayed. If I had a patient with confirmed PSA recurrence I would refer for xrt at 0.2. As to why ultra sensitive psa isn’t available everywhere, but id consider 2 straight detectable PSAs after undetectable post op a BCr
 
In recent years, urology burnout has been increasing according to the Medscape reports. Any ideas why? Due to the decline in reimbursements in last few years?

Small sample size along with the overall trend towards increased physician dissatisfaction. No major urology reimbursement cuts recently, there was a proposed cut in robotic prostatectomy RVUs but that was nixed. Most salary surveys have been showing trends towards increasing urology income, likely because as physician employment grows, more hospitals are trying to hire urologists and demand outstrips supply.
 
Small sample size along with the overall trend towards increased physician dissatisfaction. No major urology reimbursement cuts recently, there was a proposed cut in robotic prostatectomy RVUs but that was nixed. Most salary surveys have been showing trends towards increasing urology income, likely because as physician employment grows, more hospitals are trying to hire urologists and demand outstrips supply.

What other specialties have a demand in the same realm as urology? I know you posted about derm having a similar ratio of jobs/openings as uro, but what about other surgical subspecialties?

And if ENT/ophtho = uro in terms of lifestyle, why did not choose those two?
 
Difference in quality of training at a program like USC/UCSD vs Cedars Sinai/Kaiser LA? (i.e. academic institution vs not)

What if a program doesn't have much access to a Da Vinci? I hear Davis is lacking in this dept but may have changed

Does not doing a fellowship possibly close doors later on in a career?
 
What other specialties have a demand in the same realm as urology? I know you posted about derm having a similar ratio of jobs/openings as uro, but what about other surgical subspecialties?

And if ENT/ophtho = uro in terms of lifestyle, why did not choose those two?

Neurosurgery has great demand, general practitioners/hospitalists are in demand just because the market for them is so large, derm, generally speaking most surgical fields have strong demand, especially for generalists.

I found the surgeries and subject matter much more interesting for Urology then ENT or ophtho, and would much rather be doing abdominal then head and neck surgery. Pure personal preference though, nothing against either field which are great.
 
Difference in quality of training at a program like USC/UCSD vs Cedars Sinai/Kaiser LA? (i.e. academic institution vs not)

What if a program doesn't have much access to a Da Vinci? I hear Davis is lacking in this dept but may have changed

Does not doing a fellowship possibly close doors later on in a career?

Didn’t interview at Cedars, but generally the big academic places will have higher volume, more research opportunities (though kaiser does have a great health services research opportunity), and somewhat more complex pathology. The lifestyle at kaiser during residency will definitely be much better then at usc/UCLA though.

At this point all urology residencies should/do perform a significant amount of robotic surgery. Davis absolutely has a robot
Robotic-Assisted Surgery at UC Davis Health System
As will everywhere else you interview. The bigger question you should be concerned about is if the program has enough open surgical volume for you to be well trained, or if too much has shifted into the robot, as is the case at some programs.
 
Hi!

What are your thoughts on timing of Step2 with a >260 Step 1 for urology due to early match? Take it early or after the application? Is it possible to take it early and not release it? Not sure how the Uro match works sine it is not ERAS?
 
Hi!

What are your thoughts on timing of Step2 with a >260 Step 1 for urology due to early match? Take it early or after the application? Is it possible to take it early and not release it? Not sure how the Uro match works sine it is not ERAS?

Despite being an early match, urology does use ERAS. It just uses its own matching system instead of the NRMP. The application part is the same as any other specialty.

I would take it so that your score comes out after Eras is due. That way if it’s as good or better then step 1 you can use it to update programs you’re interested in, and if it’s a step back then just don’t send it. IIRC, one program, UCSF, required a step 2 score before ranking you.
 
Hi,

Any tips for away rotations? How many to do, what to do/how to impress during the aways, what to read, etc? Thanks so much!

Depends on the strength of your home program. You need to do 1, a second is optional unless you don’t have a home program, in which case I’d definitely do at least 2.

While there how to excel on a surgical rotation applies. Get there early and get numbers or help the intern get numbers for the patients. Be helpful on rounds with supplies, helping pack wounds, take out Foley’s, etc. whatever you can do to help them run more efficiently. Generally be present and helpful without being annoying (the hardest part) Read up on your cases beforehand and know both the patient and the surgery/anatomy
 
MS3 applying to urology next year. When I rotate/interview at programs, what are some important questions to ask/things to look for in a program?
 
MS3 applying to urology next year. When I rotate/interview at programs, what are some important questions to ask/things to look for in a program?

1. Operative autonomy, how much are residents doing in the OR by level. As a corrolary to this do they have a site (VA, county, etc) that is resident led and hence has increased resident autonomy (very important for training).

2. Do they have all aspects of urology covered in training? Some places don’t have an infertility or recon or female person, though most have moved to having all sub specialties covered.

3. Will you still get sufficient open surgical training there? One pitfall is urology training now is that so much is endoscopic or robotic that open surgery is becoming much less common. Many programs graduates only do a few open prostates or partial nephrectomies for example. I’d suggest training at a place that still does a high volume of big open surgical cases in addition to robotics. Places that come to mind are places like vandy, Pitt, USC, Emory, etc.

4. How is call structured? Home call? How many call pools? (More pools = more frequent but less busy call, fewer or single call pool means busy but less frequent call), I prefer the latter.

5. Who handles robotic assisting? Some assisting is valuable for a junior to learn robotic docking, basic lap skills, but there can be too much. Do they have PAs to help with floors or bedside assisting?

Some off the top of my head
 
Hi, I'm a MS1 considering going into Urology. I am particularly interested in Paediatric Urology or Female Pelvic Reconstructive Surgery fellowships. How competitive is matching into fellowships after residency ? What are some the more competitive ones ?
Thanks !
 
Hi, I'm a MS1 considering going into Urology. I am particularly interested in Paediatric Urology or Female Pelvic Reconstructive Surgery fellowships. How competitive is matching into fellowships after residency ? What are some the more competitive ones ?
Thanks !

Recently there have been fewer applicants to pediatric urology than fellowship positions, leaving some positions unfilled. Pediatric urology applicants are self-selected but have a high match rate. FPMRS has become more competitive recently.
 
Hi, I'm a MS1 considering going into Urology. I am particularly interested in Paediatric Urology or Female Pelvic Reconstructive Surgery fellowships. How competitive is matching into fellowships after residency ? What are some the more competitive ones ?
Thanks !


Getting a fellowship spot in your desired subspecialty is generally not particularly competitive, the the possible exception of reconstructive urology, which has more US applicants, then spots. Getting any one particular spot, however, may be competitive because these are generally one person/year programs, and spots often fill through internal applicants or connections between fellowship PDs.

What counts as a “top program” is highly variable. UCLA, NYU, UTSW are some of the bigger players in female urology, while in peds Boston Childrens and Chop have big names, but have their own drawbacks as fellowship programs that make them less colpeteive. Ultimately these fellowships often function like apprenticeships where you’re working with small numbers of faculty so the connection/rapport you have with individual faculty matters more then the name of the program.
 
Getting a fellowship spot in your desired subspecialty is generally not particularly competitive, the the possible exception of reconstructive urology, which has more US applicants, then spots. Getting any one particular spot, however, may be competitive because these are generally one person/year programs, and spots often fill through internal applicants or connections between fellowship PDs.

What counts as a “top program” is highly variable. UCLA, NYU, UTSW are some of the bigger players in female urology, while in peds Boston Childrens and Chop have big names, but have their own drawbacks as fellowship programs that make them less colpeteive. Ultimately these fellowships often function like apprenticeships where you’re working with small numbers of faculty so the connection/rapport you have with individual faculty matters more then the name of the program.

Why's reconstruction so highly sought? From my understanding its not well compensated per RVU and most of the cases are long and can be technically challenging.
 
Why's reconstruction so highly sought? From my understanding its not well compensated per RVU and most of the cases are long and can be technically challenging.


The cases are fun/interesting and it lends itself to creativity and dealing with situations that aren’t particularly straight forward. As a field it’s in its relative infancy with a much less strong body of evidence then say oncology or stones, and it’s much less algorithmic then onc. That is to say that there is more of the art and less of the science of medicine involved, at least for now.

It’s also that there are a relatively small number of spots, so it doesn’t take many applicants to make it competitive.
 
Hi!
I'm also having a question if you don't mind 🙂
I need to decide whether I wanna do an internship (for 6 months) in general surgery or urology. I'm a female though and that is what concerns me a little bit. And the hospital I wanna apply to has no female doctors for urology. How are your experiences with this matter? Are there a lot of female urologists where you're working and have there been problems with patients? Thanks! 🙂
 
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