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Hello there,

I am a non-EU and non-US citizen. I am from North Africa. I have a bachelor's degree from the USA in Cell and Molecular Biology.

I have to decide between 3 choices:
1- UCLAN in Preston UK
2- A master in Pharmaceutical sciences in the USA and then apply to medical schools in the USA MD and DO
3- Saint George University in the Caribbean

I don't mind doing residency in the country I do medical school in, but I don't know how hard will it be to get a residency for a non European/non American in the UK/USA.

Thank you so much!! I would really appreciate your feedback.

Best,
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Toothachee101 said:
Either 1 or 2, depending on your preference.
If you attend a UK medical school, even as a Non-EU citizen, you'll not be discriminated through foundation years and residency training.
Do not do choice 3 as a non-US citizen.
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Thank you so much Toothachee101!! Would you please elaborate more on why not choice 3? Is it extremely hard to come back to the US for non-us citizens or other reasons? I am afraid to go to UCLAN in Preston, UK because it is a new school and not yet GMC approved. I've also heard that getting a residency is not guaranteed, but the school itself is good and the professors are great.
 
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Go to medical school in the country you intend to practice medicine in. It is very difficult for US citizens who go to Caribbean schools to come back, I don't recommend it for anyone.
 
sunshineL said:
Thank you so much Toothachee101!! Would you please elaborate more on why not choice 3? Is it extremely hard to come back to the US for non-us citizens or other reasons? I am afraid to go to UCLAN in Preston, UK because it is a new school and not yet GMC approved. I've also heard that getting a residency is not guaranteed, but the school itself is good and the professors are great.
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You're a non-US citizen.
On top of limited speciality choices along with the typical hurdles IMGs face, you'll have visa issues. For e.g.) It's possible to wind up in a situation where you'll match into a residency but can't start it because you couldn't get the statement of need needed for your J1 visa. I just wouldn't bet 400k to be in that situation.
If the choice is between St. George vs the UK school, i'd pick the UK school. You'll be IMG in both cases but with the latter, you at least have some chance of school being GMC accredited and staying back for residency. No such back up options exist with SGU.
 
gyngyn said:
You can apply as an international to US schools without a Master's degree.
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Thank you gyngyn. That is correct. I did not apply yet to US medical schools. I have a 3.3 GPA, and I know I need a better GPA before applying, especially being an international student. I don't know if I should go directly to UK medical school or wait one year or two for US medical school.
 
sunshineL said:
Thank you gyngyn. That is correct. I did not apply yet to US medical schools. I have a 3.3 GPA, and I know I need a better GPA before applying, especially being an international student. I don't know if I should go directly to UK medical school or wait one year or two for US medical school.
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Grades from a Master's degree are not averaged into your undergrad gpa.
They appear on a different line and do not remediate undergrad performance at MD schools.
DO schools see things differently, I'm told.
 
Toothachee101 said:
You're a non-US citizen.
On top of limited speciality choices along with the typical hurdles IMGs face, you'll have visa issues. For e.g.) It's possible to wind up in a situation where you'll match into a residency but can't start it because you couldn't get the statement of need needed for your J1 visa. I just wouldn't bet 400k to be in that situation.
If the choice is between St. George vs the UK school, i'd pick the UK school. You'll be IMG in both cases but with the latter, you at least have some chance of school being GMC accredited and staying back for residency. No such back up options exist with SGU.
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Thank you Toothachee101!! You have convinced me to stay away from SGU as an international student. The reason I was thinking about going to SGU is one doctor I shadowed said that many of his friends went there, and they are doing well in the US. Even better than him. One of my American friends who goes to SGU now said: '' I would only recommend St. George's, where I go. There are requirements GPA wise here that you have to meet in order to stay in the program. And that's because the gpa seems to be related to step scores. The scores are pretty high here from the research I did before coming. I honestly haven't heard anything about the residency numbers but I know the school tries to make sure step scores are as high as possible so that we are competitive for residency spots. It was recommended by my tutor to only apply to St. George's if I was contemplating Caribbean schools. I've had a really good experience here so far, and friends of mine in clinical years haven't seemed to have any issues with their placements.''
 
sunshineL said:
Thank you Toothachee101!! You have convinced me to stay away from SGU as an international student. The reason I was thinking about going to SGU is one doctor I shadowed said that many of his friends went there, and they are doing well in the US. Even better than him. One of my American friends who goes to SGU now said: '' I would only recommend St. George's, where I go. There are requirements GPA wise here that you have to meet in order to stay in the program. And that's because the gpa seems to be related to step scores. The scores are pretty high here from the research I did before coming. I honestly haven't heard anything about the residency numbers but I know the school tries to make sure step scores are as high as possible so that we are competitive for residency spots. It was recommended by my tutor to only apply to St. George's if I was contemplating Caribbean schools. I've had a really good experience here so far, and friends of mine in clinical years haven't seemed to have any issues with their placements.''
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Yes you'll hear anecdotal stories for sure. I'm not saying that your chances of a residency is ZERO if you go to SGU.
It's just a very expensive endeavour with absolutely no backup option. I would never be an IMG and bet $300k-$400k without a backup. That's my take on it anyway.

Glad i could help 🙂
 
gyngyn said:
Grades from a Master's degree are not averaged into your undergrad gpa.
They appear on a different line and do not remediate undergrad performance at MD schools.
DO schools see things differently, I'm told.
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Thanks gyngyn for pointing that out. It seems that I have a slim chance in going to MD schools now, and I should not bother applying to MD schools. I don't mind going to DO schools, but I have heard mixed answers for MDs and DOs. I shadowed both, and I like both. I don't know how true is this, but one MD said that DOs are great doctors, but they refer complicated cases to MDs. I am doing the Master because I can't just stay in the US. I am not a citizen or green card holder, and I need to go to school for visa issues, and I really really want to learn drug discovery even if I went and finished medical school. I also feel this will give me more time to shadow more doctors and do more research in a lab or I am just taking so long to go to med school?
 
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sunshineL said:
I am doing the Master because I can't just stay in the US. I am not a citizen or green card holder, and I need to go to school for visa issues, and I really really want to learn drug discovery even if I went and finished medical school. I also feel this will give me more time to shadow more doctors and do more research in a lab or I am just taking so long to go to med school?
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Now I understand.
With a strong MCAT you would be a good candidate for the dozen or so DO schools that consider internationals, even with your current gpa.
 
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sunshineL said:
Thanks gyngyn for pointing that out. It seems that I have a slim chance in going to MD schools now, and I should not bother applying to MD schools. I don't mind going to DO schools, but I have heard mixed answers for MDs and DOs. I shadowed both, and I like both. I don't know how true is this, but one MD said that DOs are great doctors, but they refer complicated cases to MDs.
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DOs learn the same things and have the same practicing rights as MDs, so that may be true for the DOs that doctor has interacted with, but it is not because of the degree they have. The bigger issues are difficulty matching into competitive specialties, multiple sets of exams if you want to go MD residency, and sometimes less convenient rotations.
 
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gyngyn said:
Now I understand.
With a strong MCAT you would be a good candidate for the dozen or so DO schools that consider internationals, even with your current gpa.
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Thank you!! I ll try my best for the MCAT now, but I still have to choose between moving to the UK or staying in the US. Do you know anything about the medical experience in the US vs UK?
 
cactusman said:
DOs learn the same things and have the same practicing rights as MDs, so that may be true for the DOs that doctor has interacted with, but it is not because of the degree they have. The bigger issues are difficulty matching into competitive specialties, multiple sets of exams if you want to go MD, and sometimes less convenient rotations.
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Oh I see now. Thank you Cactusman!!
 
I am now between US DO and MBBS UK.
I am sure both have good education, but what after graduation?
What are my chances in getting a residency training in the UK if I finished medical school there? I have heard it is hard and not guaranteed, but how hard is it? Do you just have to get good grades or is there something else?
If anyone did his/her residency or knows of someone who did their residency there. How did they like it in the UK? Is it worth the move or do you regret moving there to practice? How does it compare to the practice in the USA?
I want to move to the UK because it is closer to home, and I can visit my family more often, but I also want to stay in the US because of the opportunities and the quality of medical research in the USA. An answer to any question will be highly appreciated.
Thank you so much!!
 
sunshineL said:
I am now between US DO and MBBS UK.
I am sure both have good education, but what after graduation?
What are my chances in getting a residency training in the UK if I finished medical school there? I have heard it is hard and not guaranteed, but how hard is it? Do you just have to get good grades or is there something else?
If anyone did his/her residency or knows of someone who did their residency there. How did they like it in the UK? Is it worth the move or do you regret moving there to practice? How does it compare to the practice in the USA?
I want to move to the UK because it is closer to home, and I can visit my family more often, but I also want to stay in the US because of the opportunities and the quality of medical research in the USA. An answer to any question will be highly appreciated.
Thank you so much!!
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It is unlikely that any of us are going to be able to answer your question regarding training in the UK.
I suggest posting a query here: Europe
 
sunshineL said:
I am now between US DO and MBBS UK.
I am sure both have good education, but what after graduation?
What are my chances in getting a residency training in the UK if I finished medical school there? I have heard it is hard and not guaranteed, but how hard is it? Do you just have to get good grades or is there something else?
If anyone did his/her residency or knows of someone who did their residency there. How did they like it in the UK? Is it worth the move or do you regret moving there to practice? How does it compare to the practice in the USA?
I want to move to the UK because it is closer to home, and I can visit my family more often, but I also want to stay in the US because of the opportunities and the quality of medical research in the USA. An answer to any question will be highly appreciated.
Thank you so much!!
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Have you considered SGUL-INTO? They let you do 2 years of rotation in USA.
Can't comment any more about UK than i already said to be honest. You might wanna try thestudentroom or other UK based sites.
In terms of where is it better to practice, again, you need to do your research and compare contrast NHS vs the US system.
To practice in USA, your chances of getting residency after graduation is higher with a US DO school. You can extend your student visa to OPT for a year while you work out your visa situation..this is something you can't do as an IMG i.e. the possibility of you not starting a US residency is infinitely less if you go to a DO school.
 
Thank you so so much Gyngyn and Toothachee101 for your time and help. I really appreciate it. I ll definitely check those websites.
I've heard about SGUL, but I was hesitant because I've read that it is ranked at the bottom of the UK schools (Not sure how true that is). I ll have to do more research.
Toothachee101 are you an international student as well? If I went to a DO school in the USA, will there be anymore issues applying to residency? One problem is the statement of need. This person has a big problem with it. I am assuming all international students will. Denied Statement of Need for J-1 visa from Italy
 
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Is there anybody at SGU who knows if they're really strict about their course requirements for entry? I don't have one semester of university level physics and I can't really take it because I'm at capacity for my course load.
 
@wasteofskin you can go about it the proper channels, do GPA repair with a post-bacc, volunteer, find a clinically related job. take two years to do all this, show maturity and that you are capable to succeed in medical school. You will make it, maybe US MD or DO, but it's not too late to salvage yourself. All the Caribbean MD schools will do for you though, is steal your money with little opportunity to obtain a US residency, and even if you do obtain a residency, you'll be severely limited. Don't do that to yourself, please. Read around on these forums, it's not a good choice.
 
wasteofskin said:
It's either that or I become an RN and spend the rest of my life wiping asses for a living. I literally don't have any other options with my 3.0 GPA.
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It is an honor to care for the afflicted, whether as a nurse or a physician.
 
wasteofskin said:
It's either that or I become an RN and spend the rest of my life wiping asses for a living. I literally don't have any other options with my 3.0 GPA.
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If you attend SGU, there's a large chance you'll end up as an RN with tens or hundreds of thousands more in debt.
 
wasteofskin said:
It's either that or I become an RN and spend the rest of my life wiping asses for a living. I literally don't have any other options with my 3.0 GPA.
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You mean you don't have any "quick" options. Also there are DO schools that will accept a 3.0 GPA when coupled with a decent MCAT score and ECs
 
jcorpsmanMD said:
@wasteofskin you can go about it the proper channels, do GPA repair with a post-bacc, volunteer, find a clinically related job. take two years to do all this, show maturity and that you are capable to succeed in medical school. You will make it, maybe US MD or DO, but it's not too late to salvage yourself. All the Caribbean MD schools will do for you though, is steal your money with little opportunity to obtain a US residency, and even if you do obtain a residency, you'll be severely limited. Don't do that to yourself, please. Read around on these forums, it's not a good choice.
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Goro said:
How about fixing your deficits and aceing a post-bac or SMP?
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AnatomyGrey12 said:
You mean you don't have any "quick" options. Also there are DO schools that will accept a 3.0 GPA when coupled with a decent MCAT score and ECs
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I spent all of 2016 getting A+'s but it won't matter if they don't forgive old grades. I can redo an F and get an A+, which I just did for Orgo 1, but the averaged grade will still be like a C, which is unacceptable.

gyngyn said:
It is an honor to care for the afflicted, whether as a nurse or a physician.
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Oh please.

cactusman said:
If you attend SGU, there's a large chance you'll end up as an RN with tens or hundreds of thousands more in debt.
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I've seen the horror stories but I'm still not sure if they're being overplayed. Doesn't SGU have a ~60% match rate?
 
wasteofskin said:
I spent all of 2016 getting A+'s but it won't matter if they don't forgive old grades. I can redo an F and get an A+, which I just did for Orgo 1, but the averaged grade will still be like a C, which is unacceptable.
Oh please.

I've seen the horror stories but I'm still not sure if they're being overplayed. Doesn't SGU have a ~60% match rate?
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You're exactly the gullible, desperate mark they build their business model on.

Your post-bac history is very good. Read this:
There are a number of DO schools that accept internationals. Your problem for MD schools is that international students need to be of Harvard/Stanford caliber, and you don't have access to Federal student loans.

SGU is under no obligation to tell the truth about its match rates. Many of those matches will be one year, dead end preliminaries, which dump you right back into the match at the end of the year.
 
wasteofskin said:
I spent all of 2016 getting A+'s but it won't matter if they don't forgive old grades. I can redo an F and get an A+, which I just did for Orgo 1, but the averaged grade will still be like a C, which is unacceptable.
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You're not paying attention. There are DO schools that will reward your numbers as is with the right MCAT score.
 
wasteofskin said:
It's either that or I become an RN and spend the rest of my life wiping asses for a living. I literally don't have any other options with my 3.0 GPA.
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With 3.0, you can apply to Post-bachelors, Masters, Pharmacy schools or even PhD programs. Don't worry about the bad grades you already had. The past is the past, but of course retake the Fs and Ds. If I were you, I would not retake the old classes, but study something new and get better grades. Schools like to see that you are doing way better in your last years and harder courses than first years. There are many Master programs who are linked to medical schools. If you get a certain grade, they will accept you or consider you for an interview for the medical school. I think it is better to wait 1 or 2 years and do a Master and gain more experience and increase your chances into going to a better school, shadow more doctors so you know what kind of doctor you want to be for the rest of your life than just jump into the unknown. SGU might be good, but might also be very bad for your future in terms of debts and residency placement. In addition, this one or two years are not wasted. A friend told me that her classmate did a master in medical sciences for one year, and he was studying like crazy, but after that year he was accepted to a medical school, and guess what? He was the first student in his first year of medical school. Masters do help if your grades are low. They will help you become a better doctor and a more rounded person. Good luck in whatever you do. I hope you choose the right thing for your career, but never ever give up.
 
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Goro said:
You're exactly the gullible, desperate mark they build their business model on.

Your post-bac history is very good. Read this:
There are a number of DO schools that accept internationals. Your problem for MD schools is that international students need to be of Harvard/Stanford caliber, and you don't have access to Federal student loans.

SGU is under no obligation to tell the truth about its match rates. Many of those matches will be one year, dead end preliminaries, which dump you right back into the match at the end of the year.
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AnatomyGrey12 said:
You're not paying attention. There are DO schools that will reward your numbers as is with the right MCAT score.
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sunshineL said:
With 3.0, you can apply to Post-bachelors, Masters, Pharmacy schools or even PhD programs. Don't worry about the bad grades you already had. The past is the past, but of course retake the Fs and Ds. If I were you, I would not retake the old classes, but study something new and get better grades. Schools like to see that you are doing way better in your last years and harder courses than first years. There are many Master programs who are linked to medical schools. If you get a certain grade, they will accept you or consider you for an interview for the medical school. I think it is better to wait 1 or 2 years and do a Master and gain more experience and increase your chances into going to a better school, shadow more doctors so you know what kind of doctor you want to be for the rest of your life than just jump into the unknown. SGU might be good, but might also be very bad for your future in terms of debts and residency placement. In addition, this one or two years are not wasted. A friend told me that her classmate did a master in medical sciences for one year, and he was studying like crazy, but after that year he was accepted to a medical school, and guess what? He was the first student in his first year of medical school. Masters do help if your grades are low. They will help you become a better doctor and a more rounded person. Good luck in whatever you do. I hope you choose the right thing for your career, but never ever give up.
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Tell me if you think anything can be salvaged from this. The courses that don't have letter grades to the right haven't started yet and NCR is no credit received because I retook it. Keep in mind I have no clinical experience or volunteering or research because up until the end up 2015, I was depressed and wasn't even considering med school. Still am now but it doesn't affect my studies.

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wasteofskin said:
It's either that or I become an RN and spend the rest of my life wiping asses for a living. I literally don't have any other options with my 3.0 GPA.
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Tell that to the paramedic supervisors that I work with. If you think that RNs wipe asses for a living you probably do not have enough clinical experience to get in in the first place.
 
Give me GPAs for the last year or two.

wasteofskin said:
Tell me if you think anything can be salvaged from this. The courses that don't have letter grades to the right haven't started yet and NCR is no credit received because I retook it. Keep in mind I have no clinical experience or volunteering or research because up until the end up 2015, I was depressed and wasn't even considering med school. Still am now but it doesn't affect my studies.

Session Course Title Grade
FW17 HH NURS 1511 3.00 B Professionhood/Knowledge of Nursing I
FW17 HH NURS 1543 3.00 A Health Assessment
FW17 HH NURS 1900 6.00 A Nursing in the Context of Wellness
FW17 HH NURS 1950 3.00 B Thinking, Communicating, and Relating
FW17 HH NURS 2512 3.00 M Professionhood/Knowledge of Nursing II
FW17 HH NURS 2522 6.00 M Common Health Challenges
FW17 HH NURS 2533 3.00 M Processes of Human Diseases I
FW17 SC CHEM 2011 3.00 A Introduction to Thermodynamics
FW17 SC CHEM 2550 3.00 M Pharmacology
SU17 SC CHEM 2020 3.00 A Introductory Organic Chemistry I A+
SU17 SC CHEM 2021 3.00 A Introductory Organic Chemistry II in progress
FW16 AP PHIL 1100 3.00 A The Meaning of Life A
FW16 HH KINE 2011 3.00 A Human Physiology I A+
FW16 HH KINE 2031 3.00 B Human Anatomy A+
FW16 HH KINE 3012 3.00 M Human Physiology II A+
FW16 SC BIOL 2020 3.00 M Biochemistry A+
FW16 SC BIOL 2905 3.00 A Introduction to Medical Microbiology A+
FW16 SC BIOL 4340 3.00 M Fish Biology A
FW16 SC BIOL 4390 3.00 M Population Genetics A
FW15 SC BIOL 3100 2.00 A Current Topics in Biological Research A
FW15 SC BIOL 3155 3.00 M Virology B+
FW15 SC BIOL 4151 3.00 A Membrane Transport B
FW15 SC BIOL 4265 3.00 M Biology in Environmental Management B+
FW15 SC BIOL 4320 3.00 A Vertebrate Endocrinology A
FW15 SC BIOL 4340 3.00 M Fish Biology C+ NCR
FW15 SC BIOL 4360 3.00 A Parasitology B+
FW15 SC BIOL 4390 3.00 M Population Genetics B NCR
SU15 SC BIOL 3110 3.00 A Molec.Biol.I: Nucleic Acid Metabolism B+
SU15 SC BIOL 3130 3.00 M Mol.Biol.II: Regul. of Gene Expression B+
SU15 SC STS 2411 3.00 A Intro to STS A
FW14 SC BIOL 2010 4.00 M Plant Biology A
FW14 SC BIOL 2030 4.00 A Animals A
FW14 SC BIOL 2040 3.00 M Genetics A
FW14 SC BIOL 2050 4.00 A Ecology A
FW14 SC BIOL 2060 3.00 A Statistics for Biologists B+
FW14 SC BIOL 3170 3.00 A Population Ecology B+
FW14 SC BIOL 3200 3.00 A Processes of Evolution B+
FW14 SC BIOL 3500 3.00 M Biogeography A
FW14 SC BIOL 4085 4.00 M Quantitative Methods in Biology A
SU14 SC BIOL 2021 3.00 M Cell Biology B+
FW13 AP HUMA 1170 9.00 A The Modern Age: Shapers and Definers B+
FW13 AP HUMA 1200 9.00 A Contexts of Canadian Culture C
FW13 HH PSYC 1010 6.00 J Introduction to Psychology A+
FW13 SC BIOL 2020 3.00 M Biochemistry C+ NCR
FW13 SC MATH 1014 3.00 O Applied Calculus II C+
FW12 SC MATH 1013 3.00 D Applied Calculus I C+
SU12 SC CHEM 2020 6.00 A Organic Chemistry F
FW11 SC CHEM 1000 3.00 C Chemical Structure A
FW11 SC CHEM 1001 3.00 P Chemical Dynamics B
FW11 SC CSE 1520 3.00 N Computer Use: Fundamentals B
SU11 AP ADMS 1000 3.00 A Introduction to Administrative Studies B
FW10 AP ECON 1000 3.00 M Introduction to Microeconomics B+
FW10 SC BIOL 1010 6.00 A Biological Science D+
FW10 SC PHYS 1420 6.00 A Physics with Applications to Life Sci. E
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Goro said:
Give me GPAs for the last year or two.
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It's complicated because some of those are repeats and I know they take averages. If you look at the raw credits in the past 2 years, they look like this:

Last year: 3.92
Last two years: 3.59

But if I take into account some of them being repeats and take average scores from the past, it's much lower. As low as 3.12.
 
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wasteofskin said:
It's complicated because some of those are repeats and I know they take averages. If you look at the raw credits in the past 2 years, they look like this:

Last year: 3.92
Last two years: 3.59

But if I take into account some of them being repeats and take average scores from the past, it's much lower. As low as 3.12.
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I repeat, what has been your GPAs for the past two years. No qualifiers! Just straight up GPAs for those years only?
 
Goro said:
I repeat, what has been your GPAs for the past two years. No qualifiers! Just straight up GPAs for those years only?
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As in, just punch in the grades that are on my transcript for the past two years?

3.92 for last year and 3.59 for last two years.
 
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